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  • d1@autistics.lifeD d1@autistics.life

    @mochabeau @Ashedryden well, maybe #Zulip? Or #DeltaChat, if you really want end-to-end encryption of group chats (but no control of roles)? #XMPP also has good group delegation, but the #OMEMO encryption can have less reliable delivery in groups, with various members disappearing for spells of time.

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    #65

    @d1 @Ashedryden the main issue is it must have native apps for mobile, and i need to be able to have roles control channel access, an extensible api for rebuilding the different bots that i use in my discord server, and screensharing. i have tried all those options, and i just haven't found one that meets all the things i need. i would really like to use a FOSS solution, but i feel like ive tried everything.

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    • debacle@framapiaf.orgD debacle@framapiaf.org

      @d1 @mochabeau @Ashedryden

      IMHO, #Movim by @movim is pretty good. And it's all standard #XMPP, i.e. no vendor lock-in.

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      #66

      @debacle @d1 @Ashedryden @movim movim is pretty good from what ive tried, i can say that

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      • ashedryden@xoxo.zoneA ashedryden@xoxo.zone

        @AlSweigart I went to a protest without a phone and realized I couldn’t easily find out when buses come or pay for the fare because everything is so cash averse now

        theteapixie@mstdn.caT This user is from outside of this forum
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        #67

        @Ashedryden @AlSweigart

        I’ve been in shops where the staff couldn’t count the cash, so we ended up doing a digital transaction.

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        • ashedryden@xoxo.zoneA ashedryden@xoxo.zone

          RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

          Two things:
          1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

          2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

          pascaline@mastodon.nlP This user is from outside of this forum
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          #68

          @Ashedryden
          God, I am sooo glad I left when they were swelling, looks like they finally burst.

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          • toddz@social.linux.pizzaT toddz@social.linux.pizza

            @retech @Ashedryden

            Can't rely on pigeons either...

            https://birdsarentreal.com/pages/faq

            retech@defcon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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            #69

            @toddz @Ashedryden I know a good bird lawyer.

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            • derickr@phpc.socialD derickr@phpc.social

              @trashwizard @Ashedryden https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8jmzd972leo ← and for some people who did give up their face, it got nicely leaked 😠

              missconstrue@mefi.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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              #70

              @derickr @trashwizard @Ashedryden Y’all remember the old days, before graphical browsers? We used to run bbs from a 386 with a 2400 baud modem.

              BBS is a relatively low cost, simple to install, Pi friendly way to create networks around late stage capitalism. Is a panacea for our ills, no...but you can roll your own discord type system.

              I mean, if governments wanted to keep us “safe” from predators, they could start by arresting all of them in government. Else, it’s just a con.

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              • ashedryden@xoxo.zoneA ashedryden@xoxo.zone

                RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                Two things:
                1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

                2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

                wooshell@chaosfurs.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
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                #71

                @Ashedryden Since Discord are so fond of shoving AI shit in people's faces, I'm sure they won't mind if I shove an AI generated face at their "age scanning" tool..

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                • ashedryden@xoxo.zoneA ashedryden@xoxo.zone

                  RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                  Two things:
                  1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

                  2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

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                  #72

                  @Ashedryden additionally, not all countries require ID let alone photo ID. Add to that people who can't drive, can't afford to drive and don't own passport (no need if you can't afford to travel).

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                  • ashedryden@xoxo.zoneA ashedryden@xoxo.zone

                    RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                    Two things:
                    1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

                    2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

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                    #73

                    @Ashedryden i mean the people who would upload their ID are also probably the one's who are for shit like ID requirements for voting

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                    • ashedryden@xoxo.zoneA ashedryden@xoxo.zone

                      RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                      Two things:
                      1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

                      2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

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                      #74

                      @Ashedryden I never really liked Discord. Now I have a good reason to quit all together.

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                      • ashedryden@xoxo.zoneA ashedryden@xoxo.zone

                        RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                        Two things:
                        1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

                        2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

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                        #75

                        @Ashedryden absolute madness imo...

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                        • geospacedman@mastodon.socialG geospacedman@mastodon.social

                          @maccruiskeen @annika @Ashedryden Is the age verification in dog years?

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                          #76

                          @geospacedman @Ashedryden @annika @maccruiskeen Also, can I use my dog’s face?

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                          • ashedryden@xoxo.zoneA ashedryden@xoxo.zone

                            RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                            Two things:
                            1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

                            2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

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                            #77

                            @Ashedryden you best start believin in cyberpunk futures.

                            we're in one.

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                            • ashedryden@xoxo.zoneA ashedryden@xoxo.zone

                              RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                              Two things:
                              1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

                              2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

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                              #78

                              @Ashedryden lol that would be the end of a software once used to play games

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                              • ashedryden@xoxo.zoneA ashedryden@xoxo.zone

                                RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                                Two things:
                                1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

                                2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

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                                #79

                                @Ashedryden I know a group that will happily give up their id. Teens, because they are too young and uneducated to know better, and too eager to get their jollies on 😞

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