I keep having this conversation with straight white men that they are somehow perplexed by:
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I keep having this conversation with straight white men that they are somehow perplexed by:
man: in order to beat Trump we’re going to have to concede a bit on your rights
Me: if you concede on my rights why the fuck do I care if you win? If I lose my rights no matter what, why does it matter to me that you beat Trump?
Man: *stunned confusion*
But 'we will do the bad things, but slightly more slowly than the other team' has been a winning electoral strategy for decades!
This is what happens when people look at Duverger's law and don't go 'well Duverger clearly had zero understanding of game theory or psychology, and look, here are a load of counterexamples from the 20th century' and instead go 'yup, that's exactly how politics works in FPTP systems'.
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I keep having this conversation with straight white men that they are somehow perplexed by:
man: in order to beat Trump we’re going to have to concede a bit on your rights
Me: if you concede on my rights why the fuck do I care if you win? If I lose my rights no matter what, why does it matter to me that you beat Trump?
Man: *stunned confusion*
@danirabbit Probably the same dudes telling Ukraine they’re going to have to give up territory.
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I swear to god democrats are just always telling me what we have to give up ground on. I’m only ever hearing what we can’t do. What we have to compromise on. Who wants to vote for that. Get your fucking shit together and at least lie to me
@danirabbit I see the same phenomenon in Europe. Where self-described Social Democrats govern as full neoliberals, because they wouldn't win elections with social-democratic policies. (Not even talking actual full-on leftists)
Like if you can't govern with your own politics, what's even the point? Governing is a method to enact certain policy, not the end-goal by itself. If you're just going to enact someone else's agenda, you simply have no right of existence.
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I swear to god democrats are just always telling me what we have to give up ground on. I’m only ever hearing what we can’t do. What we have to compromise on. Who wants to vote for that. Get your fucking shit together and at least lie to me
@danirabbit Honestly, I'm getting so incredibly tired of politicians cheering loudly when the opposition scores a goal under the pretense that it would have been even worse if it weren't for them.
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I keep having this conversation with straight white men that they are somehow perplexed by:
man: in order to beat Trump we’re going to have to concede a bit on your rights
Me: if you concede on my rights why the fuck do I care if you win? If I lose my rights no matter what, why does it matter to me that you beat Trump?
Man: *stunned confusion*
@danirabbit always seems to be "your" rights that need to be conceded. Never "my" rights. Just one of those funny things I guess
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@danirabbit Meanwhile Mamdani in New York is simply doing things at a faster rate I don't think I have ever seen in this country in my lifetime. It's actually bonkers.
@SpaceCheeseWizard I saw a post that was like, every day Zohran wakes up and makes a new post that says, “hey guys I turned off the orphan crushing machine. Turns out there was just a switch for it”
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@danirabbit So their program is Diet Fascism?
@KekunPlazas @danirabbit always has been
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I keep having this conversation with straight white men that they are somehow perplexed by:
man: in order to beat Trump we’re going to have to concede a bit on your rights
Me: if you concede on my rights why the fuck do I care if you win? If I lose my rights no matter what, why does it matter to me that you beat Trump?
Man: *stunned confusion*
@danirabbit If any more elections happen, choice could be DumpfJunior versus IdiotVance ... now, choose the lesser evil.... the liberalistic capitalism is what enables Fascism #changeMyMind
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@SpaceCheeseWizard I saw a post that was like, every day Zohran wakes up and makes a new post that says, “hey guys I turned off the orphan crushing machine. Turns out there was just a switch for it”
@danirabbit exactly!
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I keep having this conversation with straight white men that they are somehow perplexed by:
man: in order to beat Trump we’re going to have to concede a bit on your rights
Me: if you concede on my rights why the fuck do I care if you win? If I lose my rights no matter what, why does it matter to me that you beat Trump?
Man: *stunned confusion*
@danirabbit you should stop having conversations with straight white men -
I keep having this conversation with straight white men that they are somehow perplexed by:
man: in order to beat Trump we’re going to have to concede a bit on your rights
Me: if you concede on my rights why the fuck do I care if you win? If I lose my rights no matter what, why does it matter to me that you beat Trump?
Man: *stunned confusion*
@danirabbit
>I keep having this imaginary argument with the imaginary white men in my head -
If the SAVE act passes, why would I care if Gavin Newsom is president. If all we do about ICE is make them wear body cams, why do I care if Kamala is president. If I am not allowed to pee in a public bathroom you think I give a shit if a democrat is in the White House? You’re really that privileged and all of this is a fucking game to you and my living conditions are just not real at all for you?
@danirabbit so you want to use the wrong bathroom, and don't want illegals to be deported? it seems absurd that these are the types of issues on the forefront of some people's minds, out of everything -
I keep having this conversation with straight white men that they are somehow perplexed by:
man: in order to beat Trump we’re going to have to concede a bit on your rights
Me: if you concede on my rights why the fuck do I care if you win? If I lose my rights no matter what, why does it matter to me that you beat Trump?
Man: *stunned confusion*
@danirabbit @Tattie ugh I am definitely in a bubble because I can't imagine people around me saying that kind of nonsense. But thank you for setting them straight. That is some BS.
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I keep having this conversation with straight white men that they are somehow perplexed by:
man: in order to beat Trump we’re going to have to concede a bit on your rights
Me: if you concede on my rights why the fuck do I care if you win? If I lose my rights no matter what, why does it matter to me that you beat Trump?
Man: *stunned confusion*
Want me to compromise on some of my human rights? Okay, you first.
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Want me to compromise on some of my human rights? Okay, you first.
Cis het white men are like 35% of the population of the US. Maybe we should start treating them like the minority they are.
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I keep having this conversation with straight white men that they are somehow perplexed by:
man: in order to beat Trump we’re going to have to concede a bit on your rights
Me: if you concede on my rights why the fuck do I care if you win? If I lose my rights no matter what, why does it matter to me that you beat Trump?
Man: *stunned confusion*
@danirabbit Very much this, and to add insult to this stupid injury, going closer to the right has been proven to be counterproductive because it loses people like you and I, but also doesn't gain anyone, because why vote for fash-lite, if you can just vote for full-fat fash. And yet centre-left parties everywhere (and right-wing parties like your democrats) keep doing it.
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If the SAVE act passes, why would I care if Gavin Newsom is president. If all we do about ICE is make them wear body cams, why do I care if Kamala is president. If I am not allowed to pee in a public bathroom you think I give a shit if a democrat is in the White House? You’re really that privileged and all of this is a fucking game to you and my living conditions are just not real at all for you?
Democrats? Feh. Good cop, bad cop, both cops.
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I keep having this conversation with straight white men that they are somehow perplexed by:
man: in order to beat Trump we’re going to have to concede a bit on your rights
Me: if you concede on my rights why the fuck do I care if you win? If I lose my rights no matter what, why does it matter to me that you beat Trump?
Man: *stunned confusion*
@danirabbit as if compromising on human rights has even worked for any value of worked?!
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@danirabbit How does losing your rights result in beating Trump? I don't see the logic
@ariarhythmic @danirabbit
Allegedly, by gaining the votes of people who want rights taken away from people who didn't use to have them, as though *reasonable* people were voting for the fascists and wanting every human being to be treated like a human being were "unreasonable". -
I keep having this conversation with straight white men that they are somehow perplexed by:
man: in order to beat Trump we’re going to have to concede a bit on your rights
Me: if you concede on my rights why the fuck do I care if you win? If I lose my rights no matter what, why does it matter to me that you beat Trump?
Man: *stunned confusion*
@danirabbit imagine telling them "if we want to beat Biden, we're going to ha e to concede on gun rights."
