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I keep having this conversation with straight white men that they are somehow perplexed by:

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  • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online

    I swear to god democrats are just always telling me what we have to give up ground on. I’m only ever hearing what we can’t do. What we have to compromise on. Who wants to vote for that. Get your fucking shit together and at least lie to me

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    #5

    @danirabbit what if we tried centrism again

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    • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online

      I keep having this conversation with straight white men that they are somehow perplexed by:

      man: in order to beat Trump we’re going to have to concede a bit on your rights

      Me: if you concede on my rights why the fuck do I care if you win? If I lose my rights no matter what, why does it matter to me that you beat Trump?

      Man: *stunned confusion*

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      #6

      @danirabbit As a Black person who has said this and had half of Twitter call me a Republican shill… Preach.

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      • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online

        I keep having this conversation with straight white men that they are somehow perplexed by:

        man: in order to beat Trump we’re going to have to concede a bit on your rights

        Me: if you concede on my rights why the fuck do I care if you win? If I lose my rights no matter what, why does it matter to me that you beat Trump?

        Man: *stunned confusion*

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        #7

        @danirabbit

        Yeah, not conceding shit. As a matter of fact we're going to take it all.

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        • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online

          I keep having this conversation with straight white men that they are somehow perplexed by:

          man: in order to beat Trump we’re going to have to concede a bit on your rights

          Me: if you concede on my rights why the fuck do I care if you win? If I lose my rights no matter what, why does it matter to me that you beat Trump?

          Man: *stunned confusion*

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          #8

          @danirabbit

          Amen. If someone says fundamental rights aren’t literally for everyone, then they must somehow think they aren’t really fundamental rights.

          No one left behind. No one left out. No one excluded.

          Every person is inherently, infinitely and uniquely valuable. Period.

          #TransRightsAreHumanRights

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          • ykantrachelread@social.treehouse.systemsY ykantrachelread@social.treehouse.systems

            @danirabbit these sentiments make the most sense when you mentally replace "in order to beat trump" with "so that I can go back to brunch"

            so that I can go back to brunch we're going to have to concede a bit on your rights

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            #9

            @YKantRachelRead @danirabbit hahahaha this is so disgustingly true but also so funny but also i want to escape this whole planet

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            • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online

              I keep having this conversation with straight white men that they are somehow perplexed by:

              man: in order to beat Trump we’re going to have to concede a bit on your rights

              Me: if you concede on my rights why the fuck do I care if you win? If I lose my rights no matter what, why does it matter to me that you beat Trump?

              Man: *stunned confusion*

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              #10

              @danirabbit I hate red-browns. And liberals (in the European meaning of the word).

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              • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online

                I swear to god democrats are just always telling me what we have to give up ground on. I’m only ever hearing what we can’t do. What we have to compromise on. Who wants to vote for that. Get your fucking shit together and at least lie to me

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                #11

                @danirabbit So their program is Diet Fascism?

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                • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online

                  I keep having this conversation with straight white men that they are somehow perplexed by:

                  man: in order to beat Trump we’re going to have to concede a bit on your rights

                  Me: if you concede on my rights why the fuck do I care if you win? If I lose my rights no matter what, why does it matter to me that you beat Trump?

                  Man: *stunned confusion*

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                  #12

                  @danirabbit
                  in theory: if choices are "lose a little" or "lose a lot", it could be rational to vote for "lose a little"

                  in reality land: FFS, everybody hates Trump right now, why the fuck would you actually think any concessions to their bullshit are actually necessary to win, just get out there and prove you're not an asshole

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                  • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online

                    I swear to god democrats are just always telling me what we have to give up ground on. I’m only ever hearing what we can’t do. What we have to compromise on. Who wants to vote for that. Get your fucking shit together and at least lie to me

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                    #13

                    @danirabbit Meanwhile Mamdani in New York is simply doing things at a faster rate I don't think I have ever seen in this country in my lifetime. It's actually bonkers.

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                    • kekunplazas@mamot.frK kekunplazas@mamot.fr

                      @danirabbit So their program is Diet Fascism?

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                      #14

                      @KekunPlazas @danirabbit

                      Fascism has always been Corporatism, to the point that even Mussolini said so.

                      Fascism is the unfettered rule of big business.

                      Big business has been funding both parties for ages.

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                      • joshg@mathstodon.xyzJ joshg@mathstodon.xyz

                        @danirabbit
                        in theory: if choices are "lose a little" or "lose a lot", it could be rational to vote for "lose a little"

                        in reality land: FFS, everybody hates Trump right now, why the fuck would you actually think any concessions to their bullshit are actually necessary to win, just get out there and prove you're not an asshole

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                        #15

                        @joshg @danirabbit it's as much of a slam dunk (and similarly i'm surprised hasn't come up as much) as "our product uses no AI at all, anywhere, at any point in development or deployment. we hate AI and want it gone too."

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                        • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online

                          I keep having this conversation with straight white men that they are somehow perplexed by:

                          man: in order to beat Trump we’re going to have to concede a bit on your rights

                          Me: if you concede on my rights why the fuck do I care if you win? If I lose my rights no matter what, why does it matter to me that you beat Trump?

                          Man: *stunned confusion*

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                          #16

                          @danirabbit wow, sounds like you're talking with ignorant men. That's just embarassing.
                          Must be frustrating AF, to the point for concerning if that's the majority. I mean what's complex about people are people, treat them like people?
                          Feels like mainstream US culture is experimenting with a modern dark ages.
                          Hope aware people mobilise to vote for everyone's sake.

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                          • seindal@mastodon.unoS seindal@mastodon.uno

                            @KekunPlazas @danirabbit

                            Fascism has always been Corporatism, to the point that even Mussolini said so.

                            Fascism is the unfettered rule of big business.

                            Big business has been funding both parties for ages.

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                            #17

                            @seindal @KekunPlazas @danirabbit when Mussolini said corporatism he meant Corporatism not Corporatocracy.

                            That the US has decided to use corporatism to mean something different to the rest of the world is unfortunately confusing, but they *are* different.

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                            • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online

                              I keep having this conversation with straight white men that they are somehow perplexed by:

                              man: in order to beat Trump we’re going to have to concede a bit on your rights

                              Me: if you concede on my rights why the fuck do I care if you win? If I lose my rights no matter what, why does it matter to me that you beat Trump?

                              Man: *stunned confusion*

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                              #18

                              @danirabbit How does losing your rights result in beating Trump? I don't see the logic

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                              • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online

                                I keep having this conversation with straight white men that they are somehow perplexed by:

                                man: in order to beat Trump we’re going to have to concede a bit on your rights

                                Me: if you concede on my rights why the fuck do I care if you win? If I lose my rights no matter what, why does it matter to me that you beat Trump?

                                Man: *stunned confusion*

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                                #19

                                @danirabbit Ah, it’s Mexico paying for the wall all over again.

                                They aren’t against Trump, they are against him taking position they see themselves in.

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                                • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online

                                  I keep having this conversation with straight white men that they are somehow perplexed by:

                                  man: in order to beat Trump we’re going to have to concede a bit on your rights

                                  Me: if you concede on my rights why the fuck do I care if you win? If I lose my rights no matter what, why does it matter to me that you beat Trump?

                                  Man: *stunned confusion*

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                                  #20

                                  @danirabbit

                                  But 'we will do the bad things, but slightly more slowly than the other team' has been a winning electoral strategy for decades!

                                  This is what happens when people look at Duverger's law and don't go 'well Duverger clearly had zero understanding of game theory or psychology, and look, here are a load of counterexamples from the 20th century' and instead go 'yup, that's exactly how politics works in FPTP systems'.

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                                  • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online

                                    I keep having this conversation with straight white men that they are somehow perplexed by:

                                    man: in order to beat Trump we’re going to have to concede a bit on your rights

                                    Me: if you concede on my rights why the fuck do I care if you win? If I lose my rights no matter what, why does it matter to me that you beat Trump?

                                    Man: *stunned confusion*

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                                    #21

                                    @danirabbit Probably the same dudes telling Ukraine they’re going to have to give up territory.

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                                    • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online

                                      I swear to god democrats are just always telling me what we have to give up ground on. I’m only ever hearing what we can’t do. What we have to compromise on. Who wants to vote for that. Get your fucking shit together and at least lie to me

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                                      #22

                                      @danirabbit I see the same phenomenon in Europe. Where self-described Social Democrats govern as full neoliberals, because they wouldn't win elections with social-democratic policies. (Not even talking actual full-on leftists)

                                      Like if you can't govern with your own politics, what's even the point? Governing is a method to enact certain policy, not the end-goal by itself. If you're just going to enact someone else's agenda, you simply have no right of existence.

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                                      • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online

                                        I swear to god democrats are just always telling me what we have to give up ground on. I’m only ever hearing what we can’t do. What we have to compromise on. Who wants to vote for that. Get your fucking shit together and at least lie to me

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                                        #23

                                        @danirabbit Honestly, I'm getting so incredibly tired of politicians cheering loudly when the opposition scores a goal under the pretense that it would have been even worse if it weren't for them.

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                                        • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online

                                          I keep having this conversation with straight white men that they are somehow perplexed by:

                                          man: in order to beat Trump we’re going to have to concede a bit on your rights

                                          Me: if you concede on my rights why the fuck do I care if you win? If I lose my rights no matter what, why does it matter to me that you beat Trump?

                                          Man: *stunned confusion*

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                                          #24

                                          @danirabbit always seems to be "your" rights that need to be conceded. Never "my" rights. Just one of those funny things I guess

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