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  • dan@friendsofdesoto.socialD dan@friendsofdesoto.social

    @alice

    I can't be the only one who had to look up sea lions (searching for it along with "reply guy" got me past the cute mammals). Here you go:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning

    Yay learning! And thanks, Alice, for your championing of the community here in the Fedi!

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    #35

    @dan that comic is such a good representation of sea lioning 😁

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    • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

      Dear Scammers, Spammers, Bots, and Trolls,
      Fuck you. Get off Fedi. No one wants you here.

      Dear Mutual Aid Requesters,
      Don't act like scammers, spammers, or bots—otherwise you get treated like them. Instead, build community and friends here. Contribute positively. Then folx will want to help you.

      Dear Adult Content Posters,
      Don't post other folx' nudes without consent. It makes you look like spammers and bots; and it's considered Image-Based Sexual Abuse, as well as copyright infringement—both of which are illegal. Instead, boost local sexworkers / content creators and post your own stuff. Build something positive.

      Dear Reply Guys, Sea Lions, and Concern Trolls,
      Just stop. Also, you used the wrong *their* again.

      Dear Everyone,
      Be kind. Support marginalized communities. Write good alt-text. Report predatory accounts. And keep being lovely 💞

      Let's keep Fedi from becoming Twitter, together.

      We've got a good thing here.

      /endRant

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      #36

      @alice ❤️

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      • x41h@infosec.exchangeX x41h@infosec.exchange

        @alice Got ya. Wonder if I need to check my settings. I've literally never saw any content from yourself or others.

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        #37

        @x41h well, if you have any interest, my gallery is freely available from a pinned post on my profile.

        If that's not your thing, totally valid too 💖

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        • lispi314@udongein.xyzL lispi314@udongein.xyz

          @alice@lgbtqia.space > copyright infringement—both of which are illegal

          Depends, in some places noncommercial is either a misdemeanor-equivalent or an administrative offence, rather than the ridiculously harsh bullshit Japan has.

          t. copyright abolitionist

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          #38

          @lispi314 true. Laws vary wildly, and even if it's not illegal in your area, stealing someone's art and reposting it is still a fucked up thing to do.

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          • idoodle@mastodon.socialI idoodle@mastodon.social

            @alice
            Thank you, Alice ✌🏾

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            #39

            @IDoodle totes 💕

            I'm just trying to use my platform to keep this platform from turning into *that* platform.

            We're all neighbors here 💞

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            • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

              @lispi314 true. Laws vary wildly, and even if it's not illegal in your area, stealing someone's art and reposting it is still a fucked up thing to do.

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              #40
              @alice I'd contend that the closest one can actually do to stealing something infinitely replicable would be misattributing it (typically to oneself).

              That is indeed very rude (to maker and viewer alike).
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              • lispi314@udongein.xyzL lispi314@udongein.xyz
                @alice I'd contend that the closest one can actually do to stealing something infinitely replicable would be misattributing it (typically to oneself).

                That is indeed very rude (to maker and viewer alike).
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                #41

                @lispi314 these accounts farm followers off the artistic work of others, specifically sexworkers. By stealing our work and reposting it (especially without attribution), they're literally taking potential paying customers from us, while also making us less safe, and less likely to produce art on that platform.

                Part of the social contract of me taking my clothes off for Fedi is that folx don't take advantage of that by redistributing copies elsewhere.

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                • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                  @purrperl wait a sec, did you just spend three replies implying I'm new here, not familiar with the settings available, and explaining away reply guys to me...an admin who has been here for years longer and has over 20x the followers?

                  Ngl, that's pretty `reply guy` 💁🏼‍♀️

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                  #42

                  @alice

                  It's not about you or me, just some ideas on a general issue people encounter on the Fediverse, and suggestions on how to address them.

                  If you think you're above discussing things earnestly, so perfect that learning anything new is insulting, what can I say?

                  queer: you (1), me(1)
                  pansexual you(1), me(1)
                  enby: you(1), me(1)
                  autistic: you(1), me(1)
                  fedi-experienced: you(1), me(1)
                  POC: you(0), me(1)

                  TOTAL: you(5), me(6)

                  I'm the bigger victim here.
                  Stop oppressing me, white folx!!! 😂

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                  • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                    @purrperl wait a sec, did you just spend three replies implying I'm new here, not familiar with the settings available, and explaining away reply guys to me...an admin who has been here for years longer and has over 20x the followers?

                    Ngl, that's pretty `reply guy` 💁🏼‍♀️

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                    #43

                    @alice

                    It's a pretty autistic style of communication to pedantically give context, before getting to the point. If that insults you, you are an oppressor of minorities.

                    Some cogent ideas were put forth, for discussion. If you're insulted, then yes, I am the reply guy, the bad guy. Block me now. Complain to my fedi instance admin. Have me expelled. Silence the poor brown person. 😂

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                    • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                      Dear Scammers, Spammers, Bots, and Trolls,
                      Fuck you. Get off Fedi. No one wants you here.

                      Dear Mutual Aid Requesters,
                      Don't act like scammers, spammers, or bots—otherwise you get treated like them. Instead, build community and friends here. Contribute positively. Then folx will want to help you.

                      Dear Adult Content Posters,
                      Don't post other folx' nudes without consent. It makes you look like spammers and bots; and it's considered Image-Based Sexual Abuse, as well as copyright infringement—both of which are illegal. Instead, boost local sexworkers / content creators and post your own stuff. Build something positive.

                      Dear Reply Guys, Sea Lions, and Concern Trolls,
                      Just stop. Also, you used the wrong *their* again.

                      Dear Everyone,
                      Be kind. Support marginalized communities. Write good alt-text. Report predatory accounts. And keep being lovely 💞

                      Let's keep Fedi from becoming Twitter, together.

                      We've got a good thing here.

                      /endRant

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                      #44

                      @alice Good rant.

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                      • dan@friendsofdesoto.socialD dan@friendsofdesoto.social

                        @alice

                        I can't be the only one who had to look up sea lions (searching for it along with "reply guy" got me past the cute mammals). Here you go:
                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning

                        Yay learning! And thanks, Alice, for your championing of the community here in the Fedi!

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                        #45

                        @dan @alice same here lol. I've only spent a grand total of 20 minutes on Twitter before the psych damage was too much, so theres probably a lot of terms like this I've missed

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                        • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                          This rant brought to you by the spam accounts and bigoted trolls I suspended his morning, and the reply guys and death threats I've received since posting it.

                          Edited for inclusivity.

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                          #46

                          @alice thank you so much for everything you do to make this space the kind and awesome place it is 🥰

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                          • purrperl@noc.socialP purrperl@noc.social

                            @alice

                            It's a pretty autistic style of communication to pedantically give context, before getting to the point. If that insults you, you are an oppressor of minorities.

                            Some cogent ideas were put forth, for discussion. If you're insulted, then yes, I am the reply guy, the bad guy. Block me now. Complain to my fedi instance admin. Have me expelled. Silence the poor brown person. 😂

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                            #47

                            @purrperl you really didn't look at anything about me before making assumptions did you?

                            Also, you keep mentioning that you're brown-skinned like the color of your skin has anything to do with my replies or you speedrunning the Sea Lion meme (which someone shared earlier in the thread).

                            Here, I'll share it again for you: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning

                            And on that note, I'm done with conversation.

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                            • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                              @purrperl you really didn't look at anything about me before making assumptions did you?

                              Also, you keep mentioning that you're brown-skinned like the color of your skin has anything to do with my replies or you speedrunning the Sea Lion meme (which someone shared earlier in the thread).

                              Here, I'll share it again for you: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning

                              And on that note, I'm done with conversation.

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                              #48

                              @alice

                              I checked your profile and hashtags.

                              Help! Help! They're "whitesplaining" to me! 😂

                              New rule: Any time a "white" person says anything, true or not, a POC is allowed to cry "whitesplaining", and avenge centuries of oppression, and shut them down, by summoning a crowd of POC.

                              No point casting my pearls to callow people who take things personally and get triggered, then try to use terms like "mansplaining". 😂

                              Okay, I'm done with this conversation too. Sayonara!

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                              • dan@friendsofdesoto.socialD dan@friendsofdesoto.social

                                @alice

                                I can't be the only one who had to look up sea lions (searching for it along with "reply guy" got me past the cute mammals). Here you go:
                                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning

                                Yay learning! And thanks, Alice, for your championing of the community here in the Fedi!

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                                #49

                                @dan @alice comic author is David Malki!
                                https://wondermark.com/c/1062/

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                                • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                                  @x41h well, if you have any interest, my gallery is freely available from a pinned post on my profile.

                                  If that's not your thing, totally valid too 💖

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                                  @alice I shall check it out )

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                                  • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                                    Dear Scammers, Spammers, Bots, and Trolls,
                                    Fuck you. Get off Fedi. No one wants you here.

                                    Dear Mutual Aid Requesters,
                                    Don't act like scammers, spammers, or bots—otherwise you get treated like them. Instead, build community and friends here. Contribute positively. Then folx will want to help you.

                                    Dear Adult Content Posters,
                                    Don't post other folx' nudes without consent. It makes you look like spammers and bots; and it's considered Image-Based Sexual Abuse, as well as copyright infringement—both of which are illegal. Instead, boost local sexworkers / content creators and post your own stuff. Build something positive.

                                    Dear Reply Guys, Sea Lions, and Concern Trolls,
                                    Just stop. Also, you used the wrong *their* again.

                                    Dear Everyone,
                                    Be kind. Support marginalized communities. Write good alt-text. Report predatory accounts. And keep being lovely 💞

                                    Let's keep Fedi from becoming Twitter, together.

                                    We've got a good thing here.

                                    /endRant

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                                    #51

                                    @alice

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                                    • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                                      Dear Scammers, Spammers, Bots, and Trolls,
                                      Fuck you. Get off Fedi. No one wants you here.

                                      Dear Mutual Aid Requesters,
                                      Don't act like scammers, spammers, or bots—otherwise you get treated like them. Instead, build community and friends here. Contribute positively. Then folx will want to help you.

                                      Dear Adult Content Posters,
                                      Don't post other folx' nudes without consent. It makes you look like spammers and bots; and it's considered Image-Based Sexual Abuse, as well as copyright infringement—both of which are illegal. Instead, boost local sexworkers / content creators and post your own stuff. Build something positive.

                                      Dear Reply Guys, Sea Lions, and Concern Trolls,
                                      Just stop. Also, you used the wrong *their* again.

                                      Dear Everyone,
                                      Be kind. Support marginalized communities. Write good alt-text. Report predatory accounts. And keep being lovely 💞

                                      Let's keep Fedi from becoming Twitter, together.

                                      We've got a good thing here.

                                      /endRant

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                                      #52

                                      @alice I would like to make sure that people know Alice doesn't speak for all of us. Mutual Posts are always welcome in my timeline. I may not always be able to help, but I WILL boost even if other people get grumpy about those posts. Feel free to unfollow me or block me if you don't like that. It's a really tough world and I want to do everything in my power to make sure good people don't have to needlessly suffer. Also, there are tons of amazing and super useful bots on the fediverse. We don't need to throw the baby out with the bathwater. Nobody wants scammers or spammers. Bots and Mutual Aid are not scammers or spammers. This sort of liberal pedantic bullshit just justifies lacking empathy for others and at a time like we are experiencing in the world right now, that is just a shit take. Somebody had to say it. Just because this is a popular post, doesn't make it correct or even valid. It's not cool to lack empathy for people who need help and people need to see that there are actually people on the fediverse who care about people other than themselves. The great thing about the fediverse is there is actually a care culture happening here that is quite different than other parts of the internet. Alice doesn't make the rules for all of us and it would be great if all influencer types could stop acting like they are an authority on what the fediverse wants or needs just because they have a platform they can use to push their will and desires on the rest of us.

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                                      • terrasays@mastodon.socialT terrasays@mastodon.social

                                        @alice

                                        Great post. While we’re at it (as I’ve posted about a few times), make this #fedifirst - As in, post here on Mastodon with your content. Don’t force me to go off-site so that you get ad revenue.

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                                        #53

                                        @terrasays @alice I kinda agree. I would rather people share links to their websites, RSS feeds, lengthy indie blog posts then read it on here.

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                                        • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                                          Dear Scammers, Spammers, Bots, and Trolls,
                                          Fuck you. Get off Fedi. No one wants you here.

                                          Dear Mutual Aid Requesters,
                                          Don't act like scammers, spammers, or bots—otherwise you get treated like them. Instead, build community and friends here. Contribute positively. Then folx will want to help you.

                                          Dear Adult Content Posters,
                                          Don't post other folx' nudes without consent. It makes you look like spammers and bots; and it's considered Image-Based Sexual Abuse, as well as copyright infringement—both of which are illegal. Instead, boost local sexworkers / content creators and post your own stuff. Build something positive.

                                          Dear Reply Guys, Sea Lions, and Concern Trolls,
                                          Just stop. Also, you used the wrong *their* again.

                                          Dear Everyone,
                                          Be kind. Support marginalized communities. Write good alt-text. Report predatory accounts. And keep being lovely 💞

                                          Let's keep Fedi from becoming Twitter, together.

                                          We've got a good thing here.

                                          /endRant

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                                          #54

                                          @alice to each they're own

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