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  • meganmariehart@mastodon.socialM meganmariehart@mastodon.social

    BOOST OR QUOTE THIS!

    Trying to find out how many people see a post without hashtags. Thank you!

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    #151

    @meganmariehart

    I could be mistaken, but I see Fediverse interaction as more organic/direct. A post without hashtags is a cross between screaming into the void (low follower count) and addressing an audience (high follower count) with your content ultimately being spread by word of mouth (Boosts). Adding a hashtag would be the equivalent of posting on a bulletin board or presenting to a special interest group. Those who want to know will be able to find your post easier.

    I don't think it's advertisements that are disliked but the unscrupulous use of tracking data and the bombardment of information which we neither asked for nor want. The latter is the primary use-case for "influencers" in my experience.

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    • kierkegaanks@beige.partyK kierkegaanks@beige.party

      @meganmariehart note that in the fediverse, engagement is not a measurement of impact. That is only valid on algorithmic platforms that spray content like a shower of feces over everyone, regardless of susceptibility to the content

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      #152

      @Kierkegaanks

      “algorithmic platforms that spray content like a shower of feces over everyone”

      I’ll keep that phrase handy to pull out in context, it would be a shame to leave such an astute assessment unused.

      @meganmariehart

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      • meuwese@mastodon.socialM meuwese@mastodon.social

        @meganmariehart gamification is indeed a huge part of how the social media usage feedback loop works. LinkedIn and Reddit tell me not just how many people interacted with a contribution, but also how many people saw it. I often find those numbers more disheartening than encouraging (500 people saw a post, 0 commented and 10 responded with an emoji reaction?), but to each their own, it could be a useful feature for people that want to know the reach of their information.

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        #153

        @meuwese Funny enough, our theater has traditional paper posters up on the streets for most shows. There are no metrics available for those. (Though I assume the advertising agency makes up some numbers on request, like “50.000 people pass this poster in the train station every day“ or something.) The advantage of posters is that they advertise not only the specific show, but also the theater's presence in the city!

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        • M metalbrawler@ieji.de

          @meganmariehart If you don't add hashtags, you miss the audience that follows a particular hashtag. Those people are potential new subscribers.

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          #154

          @metalbrawler @meganmariehart

          It’s harder to abuse hashtags here, because if you spam hashtags people care about they will just block you without a second thought… but that makes the right hashtags super valuable because you can quickly engage with your specific community.

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          • warzazel@messydata.deW warzazel@messydata.de

            @meganmariehart TL; DR what?

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            #155

            @warzazel Boss people like numbers. Me try make numbers so boss people like Fediverse. 😸

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            • meganmariehart@mastodon.socialM meganmariehart@mastodon.social

              BOOST OR QUOTE THIS!

              Trying to find out how many people see a post without hashtags. Thank you!

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              #156

              @meganmariehart LoL. There's a post that should have been a blog. I get bored with threaded posts and give up. Sorry

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              • rowinspeez@mas.toR rowinspeez@mas.to

                @meganmariehart this is an anti-influencer platform for sure, it requires so much more effort to have minimal reach unless you have a built-in audience. It's very much like real-life organization I guess, where you need to find your audience and help them engage more with you specifically. People don't often stumble upon your content organically unless they have a federated timeline, which is wild and full of dicks.

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                #157

                @RowinSpeez Literally! Enabling “Hide media marked as sensitive“ in preferences is a must! 😸

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                • meganmariehart@mastodon.socialM meganmariehart@mastodon.social

                  @jesuisatire Fair! Thanks for the reply! (I’ve been wondering about the reach of a post outside of hashtags, and whether this could be used as an argument to encourage theaters to join the Fediverse. My current theater is on Mastodon but has never used the account!)

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                  #158

                  @meganmariehart

                  Just consider that a folish monkey is a folish monkey, reading what you wrote but doing as if it didn't ..
                  🙂

                  The distortion in your intent to get an idea of reach, whithout hashtag, is that you went viral. The only thing you can kinda measure now is how many instances you reached. 738 boosts and counting is like the most boosts I've seen so far. You're about to map all the instances that are and being on top of every trending stream.

                  That's anything but normal for a common post.

                  And personally I consider hashtags the most important tool to reach a specific audience, for theaters, artists, craftsman and alike.

                  What we do not have is a maesurement for "prints".
                  Probably the only way would be to say:
                  "Please fav if you see this post!"

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                  • meganmariehart@mastodon.socialM meganmariehart@mastodon.social

                    BOOST OR QUOTE THIS!

                    Trying to find out how many people see a post without hashtags. Thank you!

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                    #159

                    @meganmariehart I’ve seen and I don’t follow you. Boosted by someone in my feed.

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                    • davidm_yeg@mstdn.caD davidm_yeg@mstdn.ca

                      @meganmariehart

                      I suspect that the example of .art and other interest/topic based instances could be a good in between place: If a mid to large sized arts funder/coordinator were to spin up an instance so that theatres and artists can have a presence without having to run their own instances, that might help bridge the gap.

                      In the comments I read chatter about the different houses you’ve engaged with: what if there was an opera.de instance (orchester.de or just KlassischeMusik.de)

                      A large enough category with a large enough geography to create internal activity and share the burden of host and moderating but small and local enough to keep a unique character.

                      @jens @Kirsty

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                      #160

                      @DavidM_yeg That might help! I contacted operabase.com soon after I joined Mastodon, but they have not reacted. I assuem nobody wants to make the first move.

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                      • jesuisatire@social.tchncs.deJ jesuisatire@social.tchncs.de

                        @meganmariehart

                        Just consider that a folish monkey is a folish monkey, reading what you wrote but doing as if it didn't ..
                        🙂

                        The distortion in your intent to get an idea of reach, whithout hashtag, is that you went viral. The only thing you can kinda measure now is how many instances you reached. 738 boosts and counting is like the most boosts I've seen so far. You're about to map all the instances that are and being on top of every trending stream.

                        That's anything but normal for a common post.

                        And personally I consider hashtags the most important tool to reach a specific audience, for theaters, artists, craftsman and alike.

                        What we do not have is a maesurement for "prints".
                        Probably the only way would be to say:
                        "Please fav if you see this post!"

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                        #161

                        @jesuisatire Yeah, that did not go as intended! 😅

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                        • sevapopov@mastodon.mlS sevapopov@mastodon.ml

                          @meganmariehart I never use hashtags on Mastodon since I forgot that they were used in Twitter. They are not used in Telegram. In case of Russian mastodon there are 2 bots that boost your posts if they are written in russian. I have no idea how they are boosted if they are written in English and how, let's say, a person would find somebody to follow in Mastodon if he only registered and wants to find something to read and interact with.

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                          #162

                          @Sevapopov @meganmariehart
                          AFAIK people can opt out of allowing full-text search of their posts. If so, you can only find people talking about opera if they use a hashtag #opera.

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                          • meganmariehart@mastodon.socialM meganmariehart@mastodon.social

                            @sonjaschuh01 Thank you so much! I’ll give this to someone who’s good with math and computers. I have a hunch it could be really helpful. (I’m terrible at math. Did you know dancers are better at math than musicians? I heard them count to eight!)

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                            #163

                            @sonjaschuh01 @meganmariehart something I discovered is that if you post a link to an image, hit count on the image gives you an idea of views. I post my photos that way, and it seems to track. The same principle as "pixel trackers" in email. If you use a unique link for the post, to say a poster for the event, I don't see a problem with that.

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                            • patrickobeirne@mastodon.ieP patrickobeirne@mastodon.ie

                              @Sevapopov @meganmariehart
                              AFAIK people can opt out of allowing full-text search of their posts. If so, you can only find people talking about opera if they use a hashtag #opera.

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                              #164

                              @PatrickOBeirne @meganmariehart Thank you for all your explanations! It is great that hashtags are used in Mastodon as much as they were in Twitter, I already forgot how it was since I didn't use Twitter for ages and in Telegram hashtags are used to categorize things. One person that is new to Mastodon asked me what I can recommend to do if they don't know who to follow on new account, what to start with. I actually don't remember what I did since it was 6 years ago and when I returned 2 weeks ago I already had some accounts I follow. They use native Mastodon app, I don't know what they could do if they used FastSM. Maybe there are some recommendations or something like that for those that don't have any followings? Like list of posts or whatever?

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                              • meganmariehart@mastodon.socialM meganmariehart@mastodon.social

                                BOOST OR QUOTE THIS!

                                Trying to find out how many people see a post without hashtags. Thank you!

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                                #165

                                @meganmariehart I've read your original thread and many of the replies (including some of the rude ones).

                                I'm sincerely curious about something, though, and if you've said I missed it. Is there a downside to using hashtags that I'm not seeing? Maybe not a hashtag soup, but just, say, "# opera" at the end?

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                                • meganmariehart@mastodon.socialM meganmariehart@mastodon.social

                                  BOOST OR QUOTE THIS!

                                  Trying to find out how many people see a post without hashtags. Thank you!

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                                  #166

                                  @meganmariehart not boosting or quoting, but responding for the count

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                                  • patrickobeirne@mastodon.ieP patrickobeirne@mastodon.ie

                                    @Sevapopov @meganmariehart
                                    AFAIK people can opt out of allowing full-text search of their posts. If so, you can only find people talking about opera if they use a hashtag #opera.

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                                    #167
                                    @Sevapopov @meganmariehart @PatrickOBeirne no, you can't find people that go to opera and like opera by tag "opera". you will probably find fans of some proprietary browser instead. this is an example of totally litter tag.and among that litter you barely can find information about real opera theaters and so on.
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                                    • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                                      @meganmariehart

                                      Maybe I'm very strange but my metric for a post "doing well" is replies not likes or boosts.

                                      A good post spawns a million threads and subthreads.

                                      However, I'm on social media to ... socialize (crazy right?)

                                      People who view social media as a publicity tool don't reply to posts, they don't even read their own replies. It's like they aren't even here.

                                      Sad that on places like X/twitter replies were seen as a negative: a sign that people were angry at you. Dysfunctional.

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                                      #168

                                      @futurebird @meganmariehart
                                      I'm on social media to watch other people socialize 😅.

                                      But as a general lurker, I like to use likes as a "keep it up!/hell yeah", and boosts are basically the same with an added element of "I hope more people see this too"

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                                      • meganmariehart@mastodon.socialM meganmariehart@mastodon.social

                                        BOOST OR QUOTE THIS!

                                        Trying to find out how many people see a post without hashtags. Thank you!

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                                        #169

                                        @meganmariehart About the only time I use hashtags is for my Darkover writeups (I do not call them reviews):

                                        * (hash) Darkover so people can find, subscribe - or block! them

                                        * (hash) bookstodon so the Bookstodon bot catches and boosts them.

                                        If the English of a post is littered with Blue Words, my eye will usually skip over it as I've come to expect such posts to be unusually self-important.

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                                        • meganmariehart@mastodon.socialM meganmariehart@mastodon.social

                                          @geonz Okay, my bad, not idealy worded. I explained my intentions in a reply thread later on. (In short, I want to convince people who are still fixated on numbers to join the Fediverse.)

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                                          #170

                                          @meganmariehart Thanks, now it makes sense 🙂 : )

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