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  • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

    Oooooh SNAP!!! 💥

    Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez of Spain:

    “First, we will change the law in Spain to hold platform executives legally accountable for many infringements taking place on their sites. This means that CEOs of these tech platforms will face criminal liability […]
    Second, we will turn algorithmic manipulation and amplification of illegal content into a new criminal offense. […]
    spreading hate must come at a cost.”

    Have a great weekend, Elon! 😘

    https://www.youtube.com/live/NElqgJ1aXFA?si=M52qiZYBt55KRamm

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    #47

    @randahl this is dangerous rhetoric from someone who doesn't appear to understand the implications.

    Banning young people from social media isolates them from those that might support them while handing your citizen's biometric data to foreign 3rd-parties for "verification" only creates a target for surveillance and identity theft.

    I get he's coming from the right place, but he's talking like an MPAA lawyer, pear-clutching "for the children".

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    • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

      Oooooh SNAP!!! 💥

      Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez of Spain:

      “First, we will change the law in Spain to hold platform executives legally accountable for many infringements taking place on their sites. This means that CEOs of these tech platforms will face criminal liability […]
      Second, we will turn algorithmic manipulation and amplification of illegal content into a new criminal offense. […]
      spreading hate must come at a cost.”

      Have a great weekend, Elon! 😘

      https://www.youtube.com/live/NElqgJ1aXFA?si=M52qiZYBt55KRamm

      lin11c@toad.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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      #48

      @randahl
      💯 👍 🙏 👏 FINALLY some accountability for these monsters.

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      • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

        Oooooh SNAP!!! 💥

        Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez of Spain:

        “First, we will change the law in Spain to hold platform executives legally accountable for many infringements taking place on their sites. This means that CEOs of these tech platforms will face criminal liability […]
        Second, we will turn algorithmic manipulation and amplification of illegal content into a new criminal offense. […]
        spreading hate must come at a cost.”

        Have a great weekend, Elon! 😘

        https://www.youtube.com/live/NElqgJ1aXFA?si=M52qiZYBt55KRamm

        aapis@mastodon.worldA This user is from outside of this forum
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        #49

        @randahl yes please and thank you

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        • jeppe@mastodon.socialJ jeppe@mastodon.social

          @aruiz @ecomba @randahl as far as i know, each instance would have to ban
          Which could put pressure on the moderation task for smaller instances.

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          #50

          @jeppe @ecomba @randahl sounds fair to me that an instance moderator has to comply with reasonable accountability laws for infrastructure that shapes society at large

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          • ecomba@ruby.socialE ecomba@ruby.social

            @jeppe @randahl I don’t acuse you of anything, nor did I imply. I was talking in a general sense. The federated nature of the fedi makes it a little muddier, that is very true. I still believe it’s a great move though. Some things will get harder, but as the saying goes, doing the right thing is more often than not harder.

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            #51

            @ecomba @jeppe @randahl while I agree some things will get harder, I think part of the entire point of Mastodon and many other federated servers is that the content is not boosted algorithmically, but by users.

            is best to have strong moderation, but unless the law is very sloppily written (a possibility, of course) I don't think it applies at all.

            meanwhile hosting and boosting illegal content already has applicable laws (hence the adjective "illegal")

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            • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

              Oooooh SNAP!!! 💥

              Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez of Spain:

              “First, we will change the law in Spain to hold platform executives legally accountable for many infringements taking place on their sites. This means that CEOs of these tech platforms will face criminal liability […]
              Second, we will turn algorithmic manipulation and amplification of illegal content into a new criminal offense. […]
              spreading hate must come at a cost.”

              Have a great weekend, Elon! 😘

              https://www.youtube.com/live/NElqgJ1aXFA?si=M52qiZYBt55KRamm

              olorinhenderson@noc.socialO This user is from outside of this forum
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              #52

              @randahl

              These are just comical, meaningless words, no? International law forbids this. We'll send emails to spam and letters to the shredder. Zero F given. Problem solved. 🙂

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              • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                Oooooh SNAP!!! 💥

                Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez of Spain:

                “First, we will change the law in Spain to hold platform executives legally accountable for many infringements taking place on their sites. This means that CEOs of these tech platforms will face criminal liability […]
                Second, we will turn algorithmic manipulation and amplification of illegal content into a new criminal offense. […]
                spreading hate must come at a cost.”

                Have a great weekend, Elon! 😘

                https://www.youtube.com/live/NElqgJ1aXFA?si=M52qiZYBt55KRamm

                outofprintarchive@retro.pizzaO This user is from outside of this forum
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                #53

                @randahl

                This really should be Europe wide thing.
                It's way past due.

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                • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                  Oooooh SNAP!!! 💥

                  Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez of Spain:

                  “First, we will change the law in Spain to hold platform executives legally accountable for many infringements taking place on their sites. This means that CEOs of these tech platforms will face criminal liability […]
                  Second, we will turn algorithmic manipulation and amplification of illegal content into a new criminal offense. […]
                  spreading hate must come at a cost.”

                  Have a great weekend, Elon! 😘

                  https://www.youtube.com/live/NElqgJ1aXFA?si=M52qiZYBt55KRamm

                  htpcnz@mastodon.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #54

                  @randahl unfortunately he will be in the list of new axis of evil made up by the Broligarchy... Come next election hope he id prepared to fight them as well as his opposition.

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                  • prefec2@norden.socialP prefec2@norden.social

                    @jeppe @ecomba @randahl @androcat the effect will be small. Based on the news (there is no law right now), using algorithms to spread hate, will be illegal. Mastodon does not use such "algorithms" to push engagement. So here we would be fine. The other part is content moderation. We need to get better at that. Many smaller instances are better at that. Still we need maybe new ways to improve that. However, everyone can limit hate, by not boosting it. Thus, we are part of the solution.

                    human3500@ottawa.placeH This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #55

                    @prefec2
                    Mastodon is, to my understanding, a protocol - not a platform. Think of it as http vs websites.

                    As for instances, many don't have executives i suspect.

                    Of course the law isn't written yet, so let's hope it's written well.
                    @jeppe @ecomba @randahl @androcat

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                    • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                      Oooooh SNAP!!! 💥

                      Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez of Spain:

                      “First, we will change the law in Spain to hold platform executives legally accountable for many infringements taking place on their sites. This means that CEOs of these tech platforms will face criminal liability […]
                      Second, we will turn algorithmic manipulation and amplification of illegal content into a new criminal offense. […]
                      spreading hate must come at a cost.”

                      Have a great weekend, Elon! 😘

                      https://www.youtube.com/live/NElqgJ1aXFA?si=M52qiZYBt55KRamm

                      johan_barelds@mastodon.nlJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #56

                      @randahl
                      BRAVO Spain!!! 💪💪

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                      • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                        Oooooh SNAP!!! 💥

                        Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez of Spain:

                        “First, we will change the law in Spain to hold platform executives legally accountable for many infringements taking place on their sites. This means that CEOs of these tech platforms will face criminal liability […]
                        Second, we will turn algorithmic manipulation and amplification of illegal content into a new criminal offense. […]
                        spreading hate must come at a cost.”

                        Have a great weekend, Elon! 😘

                        https://www.youtube.com/live/NElqgJ1aXFA?si=M52qiZYBt55KRamm

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                        #57

                        @randahl
                        @bert_hubert Een mooie eerste regeringsraad voor het nieuwe kabinet Bert? 🤞

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                        • human3500@ottawa.placeH human3500@ottawa.place

                          @prefec2
                          Mastodon is, to my understanding, a protocol - not a platform. Think of it as http vs websites.

                          As for instances, many don't have executives i suspect.

                          Of course the law isn't written yet, so let's hope it's written well.
                          @jeppe @ecomba @randahl @androcat

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                          #58

                          @human3500 @jeppe @ecomba @randahl @androcat

                          Indeed. It is too early to come up with a definitive answer. Regarding Mastodon, I assumed that the previous posts meant it as a platform. And I did not want to be nit-picky in general Mastodon is one kind of instances - there are other kinds, e.g. Pixelfed - that all form together the Fediverse. A federated platform (?) using where most instances use ActivityHub to communicate.

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