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  3. So the mysterious person behind archive.today is very likely to be "Masha Rabinovich."

So the mysterious person behind archive.today is very likely to be "Masha Rabinovich."

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  • eb@social.coopE eb@social.coop

    @jik my best guess is that the captcha page just isn't something people think to inspect. it is a very brief page the user will only ever encounter on a journey, a page that they strive to move through as efficiently as possible. Furthermore it *looks* like a cloudflare captcha so users are very familiar with it (it is not a cloudflare page).

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    #9

    @eb @jik a captcha page presents nothing, takes a long time thinking, and is expected to be weird acting. Great cover for a ddos bot

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    • ferrix@mastodon.onlineF ferrix@mastodon.online

      @eb @jik a captcha page presents nothing, takes a long time thinking, and is expected to be weird acting. Great cover for a ddos bot

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      #10

      @eb @jik it's like "proof of work" "and by work we mean attack something for us"

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      • eb@social.coopE eb@social.coop

        I also just wish to stress that by visiting archive.today or related web properties your device is being used as a participent in a DDoS attack against Jani. archive.today is not safe to use. 🧵

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        #11

        Are you saying that the landing page I've been redirected to for the past 5 years on the archive.today network has actually been a DDOS tool the whole time?

        Or is it just discreetly packaged alongside Google reCAPTCHA?

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        • eb@social.coopE eb@social.coop

          @jik my best guess is that the captcha page just isn't something people think to inspect. it is a very brief page the user will only ever encounter on a journey, a page that they strive to move through as efficiently as possible. Furthermore it *looks* like a cloudflare captcha so users are very familiar with it (it is not a cloudflare page).

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          #12

          @eb while that is a good guess, and may be part of the reason, the owner told me they only put it on the CAPTCHA page because:

          We do not want to ddos them to death, just attract attention and increase their hosting bill

          Read that as you will.

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          • eb@social.coopE eb@social.coop

            But what's really interesting is the motivations.

            1. Why now, after 2 years?
            2. Why run a DDoS, and yet defend Jani in the comments?: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46629823
            3. Why register for a forum using your "name" to draw attention to a DDoS being ran by *your own site*?

            This seems like a ploy for attention. Perhaps the FBI has finally found him and Masha wants to go out on his own terms?: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/11/fbi-subpoena-tries-to-unmask-mysterious-founder-of-archive-today/

            Perhaps Masha is a fake name and the real name leaked so he wants to publicize Masha? 🧵

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            #13

            @eb I can't answer #2 and #3, but I emailed the owner and asked why they waiting 3 years, and they gave the fairly strange response that since the person/people mentioned in the article recently became EU citizens, the blog post now violated GDPR.
            Even taking that at face value, it doesn't really explain why they chose to launch a DDoS attack.

            https://infosec.exchange/@iampytest1/115905994565109535

            Just out of curiosity, do you know Jani Patokallio?

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            • liquidparasyte@app.wafrn.netL liquidparasyte@app.wafrn.net

              Are you saying that the landing page I've been redirected to for the past 5 years on the archive.today network has actually been a DDOS tool the whole time?

              Or is it just discreetly packaged alongside Google reCAPTCHA?

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              #14

              @liquidparasyte No, it hasn't been that way for the last 5 years.
              The blog post which seemingly sparked this came out 3 years ago, and the malicious code was only added a few days ago.

              And also, reCAPTCHA is not the source of the malicious code. There is just a small script at the bottom of the page, added by the owner and separate from reCAPTCHA, which performs the DDoS.

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              • iampytest1@infosec.exchangeI iampytest1@infosec.exchange

                @eb while that is a good guess, and may be part of the reason, the owner told me they only put it on the CAPTCHA page because:

                We do not want to ddos them to death, just attract attention and increase their hosting bill

                Read that as you will.

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                #15

                @iampytest1 you're in contact with the admin of archive.today? can you put me in contact with them?

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                • iampytest1@infosec.exchangeI iampytest1@infosec.exchange

                  @eb I can't answer #2 and #3, but I emailed the owner and asked why they waiting 3 years, and they gave the fairly strange response that since the person/people mentioned in the article recently became EU citizens, the blog post now violated GDPR.
                  Even taking that at face value, it doesn't really explain why they chose to launch a DDoS attack.

                  https://infosec.exchange/@iampytest1/115905994565109535

                  Just out of curiosity, do you know Jani Patokallio?

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                  #16

                  @iampytest1 I have had email correspondence with Jani but I do not know them personally.

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                  • eb@social.coopE eb@social.coop

                    @iampytest1 you're in contact with the admin of archive.today? can you put me in contact with them?

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                    #17

                    @eb I just emailed webmaster@archive.ph, which is the email listed on their website, and they responded using norapuchreiner@cofed.com.

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                    • iampytest1@infosec.exchangeI iampytest1@infosec.exchange

                      @eb I just emailed webmaster@archive.ph, which is the email listed on their website, and they responded using norapuchreiner@cofed.com.

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                      #18

                      @iampytest1 Thanks.

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                      • eb@social.coopE eb@social.coop

                        @iampytest1 Thanks.

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                        #19

                        @eb Their email responses were all pretty much 1/2 sentence(s) long.
                        I posted verbatim quotes here: https://infosec.exchange/@iampytest1/115905846553756281
                        But if you are curious, I can post/share the full exchange.

                        They did respond very quickly, sometimes within a minute.

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                        • eb@social.coopE eb@social.coop

                          I also just wish to stress that by visiting archive.today or related web properties your device is being used as a participent in a DDoS attack against Jani. archive.today is not safe to use. 🧵

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                          #20

                          @eb I am out of the loop on all this gyrovague doxxing and archive.today, who are these people and what is going on?

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                          • semitones@tiny.tilde.websiteS semitones@tiny.tilde.website

                            @eb I am out of the loop on all this gyrovague doxxing and archive.today, who are these people and what is going on?

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                            #21

                            @semitones the administrators of archive.today are using the visitor’s browser to spam requests to gyrovague, who they accuse of doxxing them, while simultaneously doxxing themselves in the process

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                            • eb@social.coopE eb@social.coop

                              @semitones the administrators of archive.today are using the visitor’s browser to spam requests to gyrovague, who they accuse of doxxing them, while simultaneously doxxing themselves in the process

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                              #22

                              @eb I am not sure what gyrovague is, but ublock origin blocks it as part of HaGeZi - multi ultimate mini blocklist. Not sure why.

                              Also not sure what gyrovague said but since the website is blocked and ddg is not helpful I'm still in the dark unfortunately...

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                              • semitones@tiny.tilde.websiteS semitones@tiny.tilde.website

                                @eb I am not sure what gyrovague is, but ublock origin blocks it as part of HaGeZi - multi ultimate mini blocklist. Not sure why.

                                Also not sure what gyrovague said but since the website is blocked and ddg is not helpful I'm still in the dark unfortunately...

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                                #23

                                @semitones I don’t really know what you want me to say. I don’t know why that site is blocked.

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                                • eb@social.coopE eb@social.coop

                                  @semitones I don’t really know what you want me to say. I don’t know why that site is blocked.

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                                  #24

                                  @eb me neither. I read the blog post

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