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  • codinghorror@infosec.exchangeC codinghorror@infosec.exchange

    @Phracker2Art @Em0nM4stodon “but my friends are there” well, get more and better friends.

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    #28

    @codinghorror @Em0nM4stodon
    Too many people chose to stay on Twitter after Elon Musk took over, because all their friends were on that platform.

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    • breathoflife@infosec.exchangeB breathoflife@infosec.exchange

      @Em0nM4stodon

      can we make this the hashtag when referring to things?

      or would something like #IDBackdoor, or #PrivacyBackdoor make more sense to the average person on the street?

      either way, the point is, #ageverification sounds way too nice for what it actually entails in practice and #deanonymization sounds too posh

      actually #LegalBackdoor makes more sense, because these laws are unironically a security issue that forces admins to adopt questionable security practices that are then exploited by crackers.

      (then again, if that happened, the governments could also have admins on the hook for bad data management if a breach happened...)

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      #29

      @breathOfLife @Em0nM4stodon

      With my apologies to my German friends, but from our collective history, my most direct association is #AusweisBitte!

      And it is not about age, it’s about creating a global panopticon. They (many of them the very same people) have been planning and working towards this for years.

      #AgeVerification #NeverAgain #HellNo #DoNotComply

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      • bendik@bendik.socialB bendik@bendik.social

        @Em0nM4stodon This this this. I just came back to the fediverse after fully leaving Meta and Snapchat ++ behind. I guess I’m leaving Discord soon too.

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        #30

        @bendik @Em0nM4stodon Congratulations! You will be so glad you pruned your social media down to platforms you can control. I only miss instagram and I’ve found others ways to find cool stuff.

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        • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

          Do not comply.

          Do not share your ID or biometric data with abusive platforms requesting it. You have a choice to say no, complain, and leave.

          This is an important act of resistance for the future of humanity.

          This isn't just about privacy, this is also about safety, diversity, democracy, and human rights.

          #Privacy #MassSurveillance #HumanRights #Fascism #AgeVerification #IdentityVerification

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          #31

          @Em0nM4stodon

          Biometrics are more taken than asked for is my theory.

          retnal scanning, face scanning, all of it is as old as computer science. When has permission ever been given?
          Discord has been in the news from the beginning about research on the methods.
          people just don't care since they just want their apps.
          shiny new smelling apps any app.... ..

          then, people are taught that as long as it's a private sector endeavor it must be good for you.

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          • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

            Do not comply.

            Do not share your ID or biometric data with abusive platforms requesting it. You have a choice to say no, complain, and leave.

            This is an important act of resistance for the future of humanity.

            This isn't just about privacy, this is also about safety, diversity, democracy, and human rights.

            #Privacy #MassSurveillance #HumanRights #Fascism #AgeVerification #IdentityVerification

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            #32

            @Em0nM4stodon
            But I might have to move to a marginally less convenient set of products!!!1!

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            • mirishuli@mstdn.socialM mirishuli@mstdn.social

              @bendik @Em0nM4stodon Congratulations! You will be so glad you pruned your social media down to platforms you can control. I only miss instagram and I’ve found others ways to find cool stuff.

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              #33

              @MiriShuli @Em0nM4stodon I enjoy Pixelfed as a instagram replacement. I made myself three solo instances. One for Mastodon, one for Pixelfed and one for Loops. Replacing text, photos and “reels”/“tiktoks”. For me it’s awesome to be in control. Plus having the fediverse distributing my posts.

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              • growfediverse@dillyofapickle.comG growfediverse@dillyofapickle.com

                @Em0nM4stodon Remember these cowards for years told you that it was too costly & complex to follow laws to keep you safe.

                Tech bros when the law protects consumers: "It's too hard, there's nothing we can do"

                Tech bros when the law wants them to narc to fascists: "We must comply right away, so tomorrow we're globally rolling out our new Buttverify system, our new ai agent that crawls up your anus and takes a picture to send to your country's Customs agency."

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                #34

                @growfediverse @Em0nM4stodon

                Laws have changed but this is still the environment we are dealing with.......

                a certain amount of untreated waste is spilled into a waterway.
                as a private citizen you cannot go down to the site with a 5 gallon bucket fill it then leave that area with it.
                a private corporation can collect thousands, thousands of thousands of gallons and do what they want with it.
                the logic being that they produce a large percentage of the waste therefore should be allowed to that, collect it, and spill a certain amount again so logically completing the cycle.
                my point.
                biometric data is considered ambient data in a network.
                state and local bodies cannot even collect ambient (toxic overflow) of any kind without petition.
                corporations can always do so?

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                • constellationunion@infosec.exchangeC constellationunion@infosec.exchange

                  @growfediverse @Em0nM4stodon

                  Laws have changed but this is still the environment we are dealing with.......

                  a certain amount of untreated waste is spilled into a waterway.
                  as a private citizen you cannot go down to the site with a 5 gallon bucket fill it then leave that area with it.
                  a private corporation can collect thousands, thousands of thousands of gallons and do what they want with it.
                  the logic being that they produce a large percentage of the waste therefore should be allowed to that, collect it, and spill a certain amount again so logically completing the cycle.
                  my point.
                  biometric data is considered ambient data in a network.
                  state and local bodies cannot even collect ambient (toxic overflow) of any kind without petition.
                  corporations can always do so?

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                  #35

                  @growfediverse @Em0nM4stodon

                  I was also thinking.......

                  kind of like how the disputed traffs smelled as well?

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                  • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                    Do not comply.

                    Do not share your ID or biometric data with abusive platforms requesting it. You have a choice to say no, complain, and leave.

                    This is an important act of resistance for the future of humanity.

                    This isn't just about privacy, this is also about safety, diversity, democracy, and human rights.

                    #Privacy #MassSurveillance #HumanRights #Fascism #AgeVerification #IdentityVerification

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                    #36

                    @Em0nM4stodon It's SO BAD too

                    https://www.malwarebytes.com/blog/news/2026/02/age-verification-vendor-persona-left-frontend-exposed

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                    • codinghorror@infosec.exchangeC codinghorror@infosec.exchange

                      @Phracker2Art @Em0nM4stodon “but my friends are there” well, get more and better friends.

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                      #37
                      @Em0nM4stodon @codinghorror @Phracker2Art "But arent all your friends there?"
                      Me: "Not any more" 👋
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                      • catsalad@infosec.exchangeC catsalad@infosec.exchange

                        @Em0nM4stodon It's SO BAD too

                        https://www.malwarebytes.com/blog/news/2026/02/age-verification-vendor-persona-left-frontend-exposed

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                        #38

                        @catsalad @Em0nM4stodon

                        The link to the original blog posting:

                        https://vmfunc.re/blog/persona

                        The only winning move is not to play.

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                        • simonzerafa@infosec.exchangeS simonzerafa@infosec.exchange

                          @catsalad @Em0nM4stodon

                          The link to the original blog posting:

                          https://vmfunc.re/blog/persona

                          The only winning move is not to play.

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                          #39

                          @simonzerafa @Em0nM4stodon Thank you! I'm way more interested in the researcher's published finding :3

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                          • catsalad@infosec.exchangeC catsalad@infosec.exchange

                            @simonzerafa @Em0nM4stodon Thank you! I'm way more interested in the researcher's published finding :3

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                            #40

                            @catsalad

                            Use the Source! 😉

                            I need to finish reading the article, but the bits I did read were interesting.

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                            • avuko@infosec.exchangeA avuko@infosec.exchange

                              @breathOfLife @Em0nM4stodon

                              With my apologies to my German friends, but from our collective history, my most direct association is #AusweisBitte!

                              And it is not about age, it’s about creating a global panopticon. They (many of them the very same people) have been planning and working towards this for years.

                              #AgeVerification #NeverAgain #HellNo #DoNotComply

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                              #41

                              @avuko "they" who. Rich people, tech bros etc sure @breathOfLife @Em0nM4stodon

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                              • catsalad@infosec.exchangeC catsalad@infosec.exchange

                                @Em0nM4stodon It's SO BAD too

                                https://www.malwarebytes.com/blog/news/2026/02/age-verification-vendor-persona-left-frontend-exposed

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                                #42

                                @catsalad @Em0nM4stodon Cc @FirewallDragons for this article

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                                • intaglio_dragon@furry.engineerI intaglio_dragon@furry.engineer

                                  @Em0nM4stodon Whenever I see discussions about online ID/age verification come up, I tend to see a few people speaking up about ZKP (zero knowledge proofs). Admittedly, I know almost nothing about it, but a cursory read on the subject makes it sound like it could be a solution to the problem.

                                  Of course, this is assuming that one takes the stated/claimed problems (e.g. protecting age-restricted spaces from those who are underage) at face value. When it's more likely that the goal of these programs is broad surveillance and control, which nobody would willingly accept if it was presented so plainly.

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                                  #43

                                  @Intaglio_Dragon @Em0nM4stodon

                                  No it's not a solution.

                                  Id requirements still exclude those who don't have the privilege to have the right kind of id. Even if implemented in a cryptographically sound way.

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                                  • project1enigma@chaos.socialP project1enigma@chaos.social

                                    @Intaglio_Dragon @Em0nM4stodon

                                    No it's not a solution.

                                    Id requirements still exclude those who don't have the privilege to have the right kind of id. Even if implemented in a cryptographically sound way.

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                                    #44

                                    @Intaglio_Dragon @Em0nM4stodon

                                    And then if the client side is available only as one app you're bound to, even if the protocol itself is sound, you may still have side channels from trackers if not outright implementation security holes.

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                                    • thezwick32@hachyderm.ioT thezwick32@hachyderm.io

                                      @Em0nM4stodon
                                      Check out the list of companies that can access ALL OF YOUR PERSONAL DATA through the most popular facial tracking company, Persona:

                                      https://infosec.exchange/@briankrebs/116103192779110422

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                                      #45

                                      @TheZwick32 @Em0nM4stodon and persona is linked to Thiel

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                                      • catsalad@infosec.exchangeC catsalad@infosec.exchange

                                        @Em0nM4stodon It's SO BAD too

                                        https://www.malwarebytes.com/blog/news/2026/02/age-verification-vendor-persona-left-frontend-exposed

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                                        #46

                                        @catsalad
                                        Evil is welcome in future, which we have been waiting for so much...
                                        You all want technical progress, you all want super technology from your favorite anime and manga?..
                                        Well, here you go, here you go...
                                        So in song singing,
                                        "Do you feel unhappy, XXI Century Man?.."
                                        Similar technologies for about 10 years already are used in Russian Federation, but here it is, on your street comrade Major...
                                        But, please, only don't fall to Luddite hysteria!! Progress don't return back!!
                                        @Em0nM4stodon

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                                        • project1enigma@chaos.socialP project1enigma@chaos.social

                                          @Intaglio_Dragon @Em0nM4stodon

                                          And then if the client side is available only as one app you're bound to, even if the protocol itself is sound, you may still have side channels from trackers if not outright implementation security holes.

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                                          #47

                                          @project1enigma @Em0nM4stodon I admit that my knowledge on the subject is limited, and maybe it was foolish of me to speak up in the first place.

                                          No doubt, online ID verification shares some of the same problems as face-to-face ID verification. What I mentioned may merely be a technical solution to a non-technical problem (or, once again, I may be speaking out of ignorance).

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