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@IngridHbn
As a biologist, I call bullshit. The anatomy is correct, but I've never seen a snail getting injured by lifting it off the ground. It's not like a suction pad. The only place where it *might* happen is a very smooth, artificial surface, like a window. But there, you'll feel the resistance, and won't rip it off. Also, usually they retreat quite fast when in danger, you don't need half a minute for that.@kupac Not all people have the perfect biologist's grip, especially kids. It's not so bad to teach people to be careful. But better not with AIslop.
I shortly and gently touch the snails body, retraction, then I take it. I do that only if the snail is in danger (from a parking into the green). -
@kupac @IngridHbn
So tapping the shell to get them to retract before lifting them is mostly about good manners, then.@petealexharris It's their house. So AISlop tells you to knock at the door.
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@IngridHbn @08956495 as far as i can tell, the original source is this page: facebook link - it seems the entire page is ai generated stuff like this. if you did get it from a reputable 'belgian nature organisation', they got duped too.
@irina thanks. What a junk page!
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Step 4 made it obvious to me that it was slop. AI can draw the opposite of what it means and be completely straight-faced about being helpful.
@paco @08956495 @irina @ianrogers @IngridHbn
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@IngridHbn this will be useful for future snail-moving
@HuguesRoss But move them with an LLM only! @IngridHbn
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@IngridHbn This infographic is fantastic!!
I really appreciate the crystal-clear messaging in these diagrams; that left-side image ALONE communicates all the information the audience needs to recognize that *our natural instinct (to grab & lift immediately) is BAD!*
️Likewise, the right-side images lay out an easily interpreted memorable sequence of instructions. So good!!
@GoodNewsGreyShoes @IngridHbn
It's AI generated.Step 1 has the snail pointing in the opposite direction as the next 3 steps, and the text in the image says otherwise.
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Lovely
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@kupac @IngridHbn The apparent high production cost of the image makes it appear trustworthy. Good illustrations, professional seeming graphic design. But I see other commenters pointing out it is likely AI generated based on the origin. It's often impossible to tell these days. Even the slop-slingers have access to models good enough pass a close inspection.
@Qybat @kupac @IngridHbn
Snail in steps 2-4 is in the opposite direction.
Text in image is saying something about same direction.The human hand does have the correct number of fingers; that's now a solved problem.
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@IngridHbn Source??? AI???
@MartaLatour @IngridHbn
Definitely AI.Source linked here: https://infosec.exchange/@jrdepriest/116129232596997292
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@IngridHbn Thank you for sharing this! I have pet giant African landsnails and the way I explain it is the shell is hard, like your fingernails, but it would hurt if someone picked you up by your fingernails too because they're connected to delicate tissue. I'd also add that sometimes touching the shell isn't enough - some of my snails are more cautious than others and retract immediately, whereas with some of the more bold ones you have to (gently!) tap repeatedly. Also they're less likely to go back in if they're eating something they like. It really does show that even creatures as simple as snails have distinct personalities and preferences
@afewbugs apparently this snail infographic is AI slop
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@afewbugs apparently this snail infographic is AI slop
@artcollisions @afewbugs Corroboration: https://www.google.com/search/about-this-image?img=H4sIAAAAAAAA_wEXAOj_ChUI7qbwjsLF6rN3EMP5rbWr36XmjQHVbgZ_FwAAAA%3D%3D&q=https://www.facebook.com/groups/allcreatures1/posts/3203453276628751/&ctx=iv&hl=en-CA&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjM8uLr1fSSAxV7GjQIHdo0OVwQg4ILegUIrAIQDg
I *knew* I should have looked up the source on this one! But I was lazy. *facepalm*
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@afewbugs apparently this snail infographic is AI slop
Hafta say, if it is, the state of the art has improved significantly. What are the LLM tells?
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@IngridHbn this is AI-generated, please delete it: https://www.google.com/search/about-this-image?img=H4sIAAAAAAAA_wEXAOj_ChUI7qbwjsLF6rN3EMP5rbWr36XmjQHVbgZ_FwAAAA%3D%3D&q=https://www.facebook.com/groups/allcreatures1/posts/3203453276628751/&ctx=iv&hl=en-CA&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjM8uLr1fSSAxV7GjQIHdo0OVwQg4ILegUIrAIQDg
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@IngridHbn
If you really want to hurt a snail, you may be able to break its mantle (never seen it actually happen), but the crack on the foot looks ridiculous.Tangential fun fact: snails intentionally stab each other during mating. Look up "love dart"!
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What's their reason behind that behavior?@nuwagaba2 @kupac Retracting quickly? So they can be completely protected by the shell.
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@IngridHbn always umount your snail before removing the device
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@nuwagaba2 @kupac Retracting quickly? So they can be completely protected by the shell.
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@IngridHbn
As a biologist, I call bullshit. The anatomy is correct, but I've never seen a snail getting injured by lifting it off the ground. It's not like a suction pad. The only place where it *might* happen is a very smooth, artificial surface, like a window. But there, you'll feel the resistance, and won't rip it off. Also, usually they retreat quite fast when in danger, you don't need half a minute for that.@kupac @IngridHbn As another biologist, I can tell you that most of the snails that appear on my terrace are not going to be there long after I have noticed them. How I pick them up is the least of their worries.
