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  • matsuzine@hachyderm.ioM matsuzine@hachyderm.io

    @IngridHbn This is why I'm on mastodon.

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    #63

    @matsuzine @IngridHbn to get Ai slop???

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    • kupac@functional.cafeK kupac@functional.cafe

      @IngridHbn
      As a biologist, I call bullshit. The anatomy is correct, but I've never seen a snail getting injured by lifting it off the ground. It's not like a suction pad. The only place where it *might* happen is a very smooth, artificial surface, like a window. But there, you'll feel the resistance, and won't rip it off. Also, usually they retreat quite fast when in danger, you don't need half a minute for that.

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      #64

      @kupac Not all people have the perfect biologist's grip, especially kids. It's not so bad to teach people to be careful. But better not with AIslop. 😁 I shortly and gently touch the snails body, retraction, then I take it. I do that only if the snail is in danger (from a parking into the green).

      @IngridHbn

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      • petealexharris@mastodon.scotP petealexharris@mastodon.scot

        @kupac @IngridHbn
        So tapping the shell to get them to retract before lifting them is mostly about good manners, then.

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        #65

        @petealexharris It's their house. So AISlop tells you to knock at the door. 😎 @kupac @IngridHbn

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        • irina@critter.cafeI irina@critter.cafe

          @IngridHbn @08956495 as far as i can tell, the original source is this page: facebook link - it seems the entire page is ai generated stuff like this. if you did get it from a reputable 'belgian nature organisation', they got duped too.

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          #66

          @irina thanks. What a junk page!

          @IngridHbn @08956495

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          • t3z@rollenspiel.socialT t3z@rollenspiel.social shared this topic
          • paco@infosec.exchangeP paco@infosec.exchange

            Step 4 made it obvious to me that it was slop. AI can draw the opposite of what it means and be completely straight-faced about being helpful.

            @08956495 @irina @ianrogers @IngridHbn

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            #67

            @paco @08956495 @irina @ianrogers @IngridHbn
            In steps 2 and 3, the shell is *also* in the opposite direction.

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            • huguesross@mastodon.artH huguesross@mastodon.art

              @IngridHbn this will be useful for future snail-moving

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              #68

              @HuguesRoss But move them with an LLM only! @IngridHbn

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              • lojie@mastodon.deL lojie@mastodon.de

                @IngridHbn
                Good info to have!

                How to pick up a snail humanely

                #animalrescue

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                #69

                @Lojie No, it's how to pick up a #snail with #AISlop!

                The author of the post was told about it, also by biologists in the comments, people found the slop source on FB - but she still doesn't edit her post to say clearly what it is and where it comes from.

                @IngridHbn

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                • goodnewsgreyshoes@mastodon.artG goodnewsgreyshoes@mastodon.art

                  @IngridHbn This infographic is fantastic!!👀✨

                  I really appreciate the crystal-clear messaging in these diagrams; that left-side image ALONE communicates all the information the audience needs to recognize that *our natural instinct (to grab & lift immediately) is BAD!*😳‼️

                  Likewise, the right-side images lay out an easily interpreted memorable sequence of instructions. So good!!😘👌

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                  #70

                  @GoodNewsGreyShoes @IngridHbn
                  It's AI generated.

                  Step 1 has the snail pointing in the opposite direction as the next 3 steps, and the text in the image says otherwise.
                  https://infosec.exchange/@paco/116130125619718975

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                    #71

                    @cy @IngridHbn
                    It is!
                    https://infosec.exchange/@paco/116130125619718975

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                      #72

                      @IngridHbn

                      Lovely 😍

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                      • Q qybat@batchats.net

                        @kupac @IngridHbn The apparent high production cost of the image makes it appear trustworthy. Good illustrations, professional seeming graphic design. But I see other commenters pointing out it is likely AI generated based on the origin. It's often impossible to tell these days. Even the slop-slingers have access to models good enough pass a close inspection.

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                        #73

                        @Qybat @kupac @IngridHbn
                        Snail in steps 2-4 is in the opposite direction.
                        Text in image is saying something about same direction.

                        The human hand does have the correct number of fingers; that's now a solved problem.

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                        • martalatour@muenster.imM martalatour@muenster.im

                          @IngridHbn Source??? AI???

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                          #74

                          @MartaLatour @IngridHbn
                          Definitely AI.

                          Source linked here: https://infosec.exchange/@jrdepriest/116129232596997292

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                          • afewbugs@social.coopA afewbugs@social.coop

                            @IngridHbn Thank you for sharing this! I have pet giant African landsnails and the way I explain it is the shell is hard, like your fingernails, but it would hurt if someone picked you up by your fingernails too because they're connected to delicate tissue. I'd also add that sometimes touching the shell isn't enough - some of my snails are more cautious than others and retract immediately, whereas with some of the more bold ones you have to (gently!) tap repeatedly. Also they're less likely to go back in if they're eating something they like. It really does show that even creatures as simple as snails have distinct personalities and preferences

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                            #75

                            @afewbugs apparently this snail infographic is AI slop 😞

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                            • artcollisions@vis.socialA artcollisions@vis.social

                              @afewbugs apparently this snail infographic is AI slop 😞

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                              #76

                              @artcollisions @afewbugs Corroboration: https://www.google.com/search/about-this-image?img=H4sIAAAAAAAA_wEXAOj_ChUI7qbwjsLF6rN3EMP5rbWr36XmjQHVbgZ_FwAAAA%3D%3D&q=https://www.facebook.com/groups/allcreatures1/posts/3203453276628751/&ctx=iv&hl=en-CA&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjM8uLr1fSSAxV7GjQIHdo0OVwQg4ILegUIrAIQDg

                              I *knew* I should have looked up the source on this one! But I was lazy. *facepalm*

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                              • artcollisions@vis.socialA artcollisions@vis.social

                                @afewbugs apparently this snail infographic is AI slop 😞

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                                #77

                                @artcollisions @afewbugs

                                Hafta say, if it is, the state of the art has improved significantly. What are the LLM tells?

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                                  #78

                                  @IngridHbn this is AI-generated, please delete it: https://www.google.com/search/about-this-image?img=H4sIAAAAAAAA_wEXAOj_ChUI7qbwjsLF6rN3EMP5rbWr36XmjQHVbgZ_FwAAAA%3D%3D&q=https://www.facebook.com/groups/allcreatures1/posts/3203453276628751/&ctx=iv&hl=en-CA&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjM8uLr1fSSAxV7GjQIHdo0OVwQg4ILegUIrAIQDg

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                                  • kupac@functional.cafeK kupac@functional.cafe

                                    @IngridHbn
                                    If you really want to hurt a snail, you may be able to break its mantle (never seen it actually happen), but the crack on the foot looks ridiculous.

                                    Tangential fun fact: snails intentionally stab each other during mating. Look up "love dart"!

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                                    #79

                                    @kupac
                                    What's their reason behind that behavior?

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                                    • nuwagaba2@mastodon.socialN nuwagaba2@mastodon.social

                                      @kupac
                                      What's their reason behind that behavior?

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                                      #80

                                      @nuwagaba2 @kupac Retracting quickly? So they can be completely protected by the shell.

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                                        #81

                                        @IngridHbn always umount your snail before removing the device

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                                        • inkyschwartz@mastodon.socialI inkyschwartz@mastodon.social

                                          @nuwagaba2 @kupac Retracting quickly? So they can be completely protected by the shell.

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                                          #82

                                          @InkySchwartz
                                          Thanks for the education. Don't some nails lose their lives in such processes?

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