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  • ingridhbn@mastodon.onlineI ingridhbn@mastodon.online

    Sharing = caring ! 🐌

    How to pick up a snail to help him or her...

    #snails #snail #help #animals #animalsave

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    #53

    @IngridHbn Source??? AI???

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    • ingridhbn@mastodon.onlineI ingridhbn@mastodon.online

      @08956495 it’s from a Belgian nature organisation

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      #54

      @IngridHbn @08956495 as far as i can tell, the original source is this page: facebook link - it seems the entire page is ai generated stuff like this. if you did get it from a reputable 'belgian nature organisation', they got duped too.

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      • kupac@functional.cafeK kupac@functional.cafe

        @IngridHbn
        If you really want to hurt a snail, you may be able to break its mantle (never seen it actually happen), but the crack on the foot looks ridiculous.

        Tangential fun fact: snails intentionally stab each other during mating. Look up "love dart"!

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        #55

        @kupac @IngridHbn
        So tapping the shell to get them to retract before lifting them is mostly about good manners, then.

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        • ingridhbn@mastodon.onlineI ingridhbn@mastodon.online

          Sharing = caring ! 🐌

          How to pick up a snail to help him or her...

          #snails #snail #help #animals #animalsave

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          #56

          @IngridHbn It's true that you can cause mantle collapse in a snail by picking it up too roughly, but this image itself is clearly AI slop.

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          • kupac@functional.cafeK kupac@functional.cafe

            @IngridHbn
            As a biologist, I call bullshit. The anatomy is correct, but I've never seen a snail getting injured by lifting it off the ground. It's not like a suction pad. The only place where it *might* happen is a very smooth, artificial surface, like a window. But there, you'll feel the resistance, and won't rip it off. Also, usually they retreat quite fast when in danger, you don't need half a minute for that.

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            #57
            @kupac @IngridHbn on the one hand this reply matches my experience, but on the other i've noticed a lot of normies are much, much more hasty and brutal with things who may benefit from this
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            • irina@critter.cafeI irina@critter.cafe

              @ianrogers @IngridHbn it absolutely is AI generated. the original source is a facebook ai-generated "nature" page.

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              #58

              @irina thank you for the information. I unboosted it. That's why we should have always sources.
              @ianrogers @IngridHbn

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              • petealexharris@mastodon.scotP petealexharris@mastodon.scot

                @kupac @IngridHbn
                So tapping the shell to get them to retract before lifting them is mostly about good manners, then.

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                #59

                @petealexharris
                But if you just suddenly lift them off the ground, they think they're flying *really fast*!
                @IngridHbn

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                • duncanmsussex@mas.toD duncanmsussex@mas.to

                  @IngridHbn I feel bad for all the snails I've picked up the wrong way! I think they generally retracted, but still...

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                  #60

                  @DuncanMSussex If they didn't crash, it was all fine and correct! Not all snails "glue" so much to a road as this AI image suggests. 😉
                  @IngridHbn

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                  • ingridhbn@mastodon.onlineI ingridhbn@mastodon.online

                    Sharing = caring ! 🐌

                    How to pick up a snail to help him or her...

                    #snails #snail #help #animals #animalsave

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                    #61

                    @IngridHbn it's AI, sorry if it's real advice but I can't be sure so I'm not trusting this image

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                    • ingridhbn@mastodon.onlineI ingridhbn@mastodon.online

                      @08956495 it’s from a Belgian nature organisation

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                      #62

                      @IngridHbn why can't you name them? Why can't you give us a source link?
                      Because people here don't boost #AISlop?!

                      @08956495

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                      • matsuzine@hachyderm.ioM matsuzine@hachyderm.io

                        @IngridHbn This is why I'm on mastodon.

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                        #63

                        @matsuzine @IngridHbn to get Ai slop???

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                        • kupac@functional.cafeK kupac@functional.cafe

                          @IngridHbn
                          As a biologist, I call bullshit. The anatomy is correct, but I've never seen a snail getting injured by lifting it off the ground. It's not like a suction pad. The only place where it *might* happen is a very smooth, artificial surface, like a window. But there, you'll feel the resistance, and won't rip it off. Also, usually they retreat quite fast when in danger, you don't need half a minute for that.

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                          #64

                          @kupac Not all people have the perfect biologist's grip, especially kids. It's not so bad to teach people to be careful. But better not with AIslop. 😁 I shortly and gently touch the snails body, retraction, then I take it. I do that only if the snail is in danger (from a parking into the green).

                          @IngridHbn

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                          • petealexharris@mastodon.scotP petealexharris@mastodon.scot

                            @kupac @IngridHbn
                            So tapping the shell to get them to retract before lifting them is mostly about good manners, then.

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                            #65

                            @petealexharris It's their house. So AISlop tells you to knock at the door. 😎 @kupac @IngridHbn

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                            • irina@critter.cafeI irina@critter.cafe

                              @IngridHbn @08956495 as far as i can tell, the original source is this page: facebook link - it seems the entire page is ai generated stuff like this. if you did get it from a reputable 'belgian nature organisation', they got duped too.

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                              #66

                              @irina thanks. What a junk page!

                              @IngridHbn @08956495

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                              • paco@infosec.exchangeP paco@infosec.exchange

                                Step 4 made it obvious to me that it was slop. AI can draw the opposite of what it means and be completely straight-faced about being helpful.

                                @08956495 @irina @ianrogers @IngridHbn

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                                #67

                                @paco @08956495 @irina @ianrogers @IngridHbn
                                In steps 2 and 3, the shell is *also* in the opposite direction.

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                                • huguesross@mastodon.artH huguesross@mastodon.art

                                  @IngridHbn this will be useful for future snail-moving

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                                  #68

                                  @HuguesRoss But move them with an LLM only! @IngridHbn

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                                  • lojie@mastodon.deL lojie@mastodon.de

                                    @IngridHbn
                                    Good info to have!

                                    How to pick up a snail humanely

                                    #animalrescue

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                                    #69

                                    @Lojie No, it's how to pick up a #snail with #AISlop!

                                    The author of the post was told about it, also by biologists in the comments, people found the slop source on FB - but she still doesn't edit her post to say clearly what it is and where it comes from.

                                    @IngridHbn

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                                    • goodnewsgreyshoes@mastodon.artG goodnewsgreyshoes@mastodon.art

                                      @IngridHbn This infographic is fantastic!!👀✨

                                      I really appreciate the crystal-clear messaging in these diagrams; that left-side image ALONE communicates all the information the audience needs to recognize that *our natural instinct (to grab & lift immediately) is BAD!*😳‼️

                                      Likewise, the right-side images lay out an easily interpreted memorable sequence of instructions. So good!!😘👌

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                                      #70

                                      @GoodNewsGreyShoes @IngridHbn
                                      It's AI generated.

                                      Step 1 has the snail pointing in the opposite direction as the next 3 steps, and the text in the image says otherwise.
                                      https://infosec.exchange/@paco/116130125619718975

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                                        #71

                                        @cy @IngridHbn
                                        It is!
                                        https://infosec.exchange/@paco/116130125619718975

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                                          #72

                                          @IngridHbn

                                          Lovely 😍

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