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🇮🇷 Update: Brief returns of internet access are driving spikes in Snowflake usage.

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  • torproject@mastodon.socialT torproject@mastodon.social

    🇮🇷 Update: Brief returns of internet access are driving spikes in Snowflake usage. Please help us run more proxies if you can. ❄️ snowflake.torproject.org

    The easiest ways to run Snowflake is by using Tor Browser, Orbot, or installing the browser add on in your current browser. Extra capacity helps people in Iran stay connected when the network comes back online.

    steve_zeke@freeradical.zoneS This user is from outside of this forum
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    #8

    @torproject

    I've been running this in #Firefox for 3 years since I listened to a talk by its original developer, Serene, at the World Ethical Data Forum in 2022.

    It is completely unobtrusive. Here is a good explainer from @eff

    https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/10/snowflake-makes-it-easy-anyone-fight-censorship

    Serene also has an interesting story
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serene_(pianist)

    #music #software #privacy #activism

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    • torproject@mastodon.socialT torproject@mastodon.social

      🇮🇷 Update: Brief returns of internet access are driving spikes in Snowflake usage. Please help us run more proxies if you can. ❄️ snowflake.torproject.org

      The easiest ways to run Snowflake is by using Tor Browser, Orbot, or installing the browser add on in your current browser. Extra capacity helps people in Iran stay connected when the network comes back online.

      sgs@det.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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      #9

      @torproject

      Orbot saugt den Akku leer, zumindest bei mir auf dem Handy (Android). Auf dem Notebook im FF läuft es prima.

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      • torproject@mastodon.socialT torproject@mastodon.social

        🇮🇷 Update: Brief returns of internet access are driving spikes in Snowflake usage. Please help us run more proxies if you can. ❄️ snowflake.torproject.org

        The easiest ways to run Snowflake is by using Tor Browser, Orbot, or installing the browser add on in your current browser. Extra capacity helps people in Iran stay connected when the network comes back online.

        trrektor@ieji.deT This user is from outside of this forum
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        #10

        @torproject how much extra data is to be expected from running snowflake?

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        • torproject@mastodon.socialT torproject@mastodon.social

          🇮🇷 Update: Brief returns of internet access are driving spikes in Snowflake usage. Please help us run more proxies if you can. ❄️ snowflake.torproject.org

          The easiest ways to run Snowflake is by using Tor Browser, Orbot, or installing the browser add on in your current browser. Extra capacity helps people in Iran stay connected when the network comes back online.

          freigeist62@nrw.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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          #11

          @torproject
          Just do it please! 👍

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          • torproject@mastodon.socialT torproject@mastodon.social

            🇮🇷 Update: Brief returns of internet access are driving spikes in Snowflake usage. Please help us run more proxies if you can. ❄️ snowflake.torproject.org

            The easiest ways to run Snowflake is by using Tor Browser, Orbot, or installing the browser add on in your current browser. Extra capacity helps people in Iran stay connected when the network comes back online.

            shadowdancer@mstdn.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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            #12

            @torproject
            I operate, and have for years already, a regular relay. Is that of any help? I might be able to fire up another one, albeit with a rather limited bandwidth.

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            • torproject@mastodon.socialT torproject@mastodon.social

              🇮🇷 Update: Brief returns of internet access are driving spikes in Snowflake usage. Please help us run more proxies if you can. ❄️ snowflake.torproject.org

              The easiest ways to run Snowflake is by using Tor Browser, Orbot, or installing the browser add on in your current browser. Extra capacity helps people in Iran stay connected when the network comes back online.

              nbloglinks@indieweb.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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              #13

              @torproject try BitChat: https://indieweb.social/@nbloglinks/115960655684224625

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              • torproject@mastodon.socialT torproject@mastodon.social

                🇮🇷 Update: Brief returns of internet access are driving spikes in Snowflake usage. Please help us run more proxies if you can. ❄️ snowflake.torproject.org

                The easiest ways to run Snowflake is by using Tor Browser, Orbot, or installing the browser add on in your current browser. Extra capacity helps people in Iran stay connected when the network comes back online.

                sb@metroholografix.caS This user is from outside of this forum
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                #14

                @torproject
                How do clients know to connect to an instance of snowflake? Does the server 'phone home' somewhere to list itself as available?

                shark@miniwa.moeS rebootdeluxe@infosec.exchangeR blackwolf@fedi.atB 3 Antworten Letzte Antwort
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                • sb@metroholografix.caS sb@metroholografix.ca

                  @torproject
                  How do clients know to connect to an instance of snowflake? Does the server 'phone home' somewhere to list itself as available?

                  shark@miniwa.moeS This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #15
                  @sb @torproject we have to connect to a broker, which gives us an IP address of an active proxy. The broker itself is domain fronted behind another big website (like bunny.net, cdn77, these two currently work on MCI, in my region at least)
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                  • shark@miniwa.moeS shark@miniwa.moe
                    @sb @torproject we have to connect to a broker, which gives us an IP address of an active proxy. The broker itself is domain fronted behind another big website (like bunny.net, cdn77, these two currently work on MCI, in my region at least)
                    sb@metroholografix.caS This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #16

                    @Shark @torproject
                    Thank you.

                    I'm just wondering, once a standalone instance of snowflake is running on a server and the ports have been opened up, how is that instance discovered?

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                    • sb@metroholografix.caS sb@metroholografix.ca

                      @torproject
                      How do clients know to connect to an instance of snowflake? Does the server 'phone home' somewhere to list itself as available?

                      rebootdeluxe@infosec.exchangeR This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #17

                      @sb @torproject Snowflake clients and snowflake proxies find each other via a broker:

                      https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/anti-censorship/pluggable-transports/snowflake/-/wikis/Technical%20Overview

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                      • rebootdeluxe@infosec.exchangeR rebootdeluxe@infosec.exchange

                        @sb @torproject Snowflake clients and snowflake proxies find each other via a broker:

                        https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/anti-censorship/pluggable-transports/snowflake/-/wikis/Technical%20Overview

                        sb@metroholografix.caS This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #18

                        @rebootdeluxe @torproject
                        Ah, perfect - exactly what I was looking for. Thank you.

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                        • sb@metroholografix.caS sb@metroholografix.ca

                          @Shark @torproject
                          Thank you.

                          I'm just wondering, once a standalone instance of snowflake is running on a server and the ports have been opened up, how is that instance discovered?

                          shark@miniwa.moeS This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #19
                          @sb @torproject I'm not sure exactly how, but maybe because snowflake proxies are used as entry nodes, broker discovers them the same way that TOR entry nodes are discovered (which I also don't know how)

                          maybe tomorrow I'll start reading on it a bit
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                          • sb@metroholografix.caS sb@metroholografix.ca

                            @torproject
                            How do clients know to connect to an instance of snowflake? Does the server 'phone home' somewhere to list itself as available?

                            blackwolf@fedi.atB This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #20

                            @sb @torproject Bitchat also uses the tor network by default. So running a Snowflake proxy node will support it as well. 😉

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                            • torproject@mastodon.socialT torproject@mastodon.social

                              🇮🇷 Update: Brief returns of internet access are driving spikes in Snowflake usage. Please help us run more proxies if you can. ❄️ snowflake.torproject.org

                              The easiest ways to run Snowflake is by using Tor Browser, Orbot, or installing the browser add on in your current browser. Extra capacity helps people in Iran stay connected when the network comes back online.

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                              #21

                              @torproject I'm running the plugin in Brave browser since approximately 2 years or so. But just set up a permanent proxy node on my VPS as well.

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                              • shark@miniwa.moeS shark@miniwa.moe
                                @sb @torproject I'm not sure exactly how, but maybe because snowflake proxies are used as entry nodes, broker discovers them the same way that TOR entry nodes are discovered (which I also don't know how)

                                maybe tomorrow I'll start reading on it a bit
                                shark@miniwa.moeS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #22
                                @sb @torproject found something
                                "Proxies poll the broker periodically, using ordinary HTTPS requests."
                                https://www.bamsoftware.com/papers/snowflake/
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                                • shark@miniwa.moeS shark@miniwa.moe
                                  @sb @torproject found something
                                  "Proxies poll the broker periodically, using ordinary HTTPS requests."
                                  https://www.bamsoftware.com/papers/snowflake/
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                                  #23
                                  @sb @torproject also snowflake works behind NAT, there is no need for opening a port.
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                                  • joevan@mastodon.socialJ joevan@mastodon.social

                                    @Ann_Effes @torproject

                                    https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/addon/torproject-snowflake/

                                    Addon for Firefox

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                                    #24

                                    @joevan @Ann_Effes @torproject Are we talking about security here?
                                    Having this as a browser extension, next to my banking, email, docs and all, sounds a little crazy. This should be a process running under its own user.

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                                    • ondrejzizka@mastodon.socialO ondrejzizka@mastodon.social

                                      @joevan @Ann_Effes @torproject Are we talking about security here?
                                      Having this as a browser extension, next to my banking, email, docs and all, sounds a little crazy. This should be a process running under its own user.

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                                      #25

                                      @OndrejZizka @Ann_Effes @torproject

                                      For LINUX:

                                      - it is open source
                                      - it runs in the context of Firefox
                                      - it does not need any additional rights

                                      For WINDOWS:

                                      - everything is always not secure

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                                      • trrektor@ieji.deT trrektor@ieji.de

                                        @torproject how much extra data is to be expected from running snowflake?

                                        blackwolf@fedi.atB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #26

                                        @trrektor @torproject statistics of the first hour after setting up a new proxy node today:
                                        In the last 1h0m0s, there were 21 completed successful connections. Traffic Relayed ↓ 15910 KB (4.42 KB/s), ↑ 8912 KB (2.48 KB/s).

                                        So, I don't think you will really notice any impact.

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                                        • ondrejzizka@mastodon.socialO ondrejzizka@mastodon.social

                                          @joevan @Ann_Effes @torproject Are we talking about security here?
                                          Having this as a browser extension, next to my banking, email, docs and all, sounds a little crazy. This should be a process running under its own user.

                                          joevan@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #27

                                          @OndrejZizka @Ann_Effes @torproject

                                          But if you are concerned: Buy a used Raspberry Pi, install the OS and Docker. Run Snowflake in a docker container:

                                          https://community.torproject.org/relay/setup/snowflake/standalone/docker/

                                          20 to 30 bucks and 30 minutes to install everything

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