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Brother has heard reports that ICE agents in Minneapolis have started drawing guns on random cars driving by, whether they are observers or just...people in cars going about their day.

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  • artemis@dice.campA This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    Brother has heard reports that ICE agents in Minneapolis have started drawing guns on random cars driving by, whether they are observers or just...people in cars going about their day.

    (please do note: this is possibly third-hand information. While that fucking lines up with *everything* we know about ICE & their behavior, I am NOT telling you he saw it himself).

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    • artemis@dice.campA artemis@dice.camp

      Brother has heard reports that ICE agents in Minneapolis have started drawing guns on random cars driving by, whether they are observers or just...people in cars going about their day.

      (please do note: this is possibly third-hand information. While that fucking lines up with *everything* we know about ICE & their behavior, I am NOT telling you he saw it himself).

      artemis@dice.campA This user is from outside of this forum
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      Some ICE agents did wander around the alley behind his house recently. They walked right past his garage. Also walked across his lawn. Didn't seem to be a specific threat to him or anything but there are just groups of masked gunmen traipsing around through people's yards. Normal stuff.

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      • artemis@dice.campA artemis@dice.camp

        Some ICE agents did wander around the alley behind his house recently. They walked right past his garage. Also walked across his lawn. Didn't seem to be a specific threat to him or anything but there are just groups of masked gunmen traipsing around through people's yards. Normal stuff.

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        #3

        @artemis

        They lie, threaten, intimidate, break car windows, then unlock car doors & drag people into the cold. They spray children & animals in the face with teargas. They break driving & traffic laws that would get any of us arrested immediately. They use HC gas on people in Portland. They leave ace of spades death cards in cars with smashed windows in Denver. FUCK ICE.

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        • artemis@dice.campA artemis@dice.camp

          Some ICE agents did wander around the alley behind his house recently. They walked right past his garage. Also walked across his lawn. Didn't seem to be a specific threat to him or anything but there are just groups of masked gunmen traipsing around through people's yards. Normal stuff.

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          #4

          His face is *definitely* in their database by now, because they record everyone, but I have no particular reason to think Apollo would be singled out. He has been more involved in the "helping people" side of things & less the stuff that would make it likely for them to want to terrorize or injure him, unlike some other people who have been targets of harassment & violence.

          But what slim comfort that is! Oh good, if he gets hurt it will be a random act of violence instead of a premeditated one!

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          • artemis@dice.campA artemis@dice.camp

            Brother has heard reports that ICE agents in Minneapolis have started drawing guns on random cars driving by, whether they are observers or just...people in cars going about their day.

            (please do note: this is possibly third-hand information. While that fucking lines up with *everything* we know about ICE & their behavior, I am NOT telling you he saw it himself).

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            @artemis May or may not be referring to this incident from yesterday morning.
            https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3mdxra5b43k2n

            But I'm sure there are plenty of other occurrences getting missed or not recorded as well.

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            • artemis@dice.campA artemis@dice.camp

              His face is *definitely* in their database by now, because they record everyone, but I have no particular reason to think Apollo would be singled out. He has been more involved in the "helping people" side of things & less the stuff that would make it likely for them to want to terrorize or injure him, unlike some other people who have been targets of harassment & violence.

              But what slim comfort that is! Oh good, if he gets hurt it will be a random act of violence instead of a premeditated one!

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              It's fucking obscene what's happening right now, what ICE is getting away with. It's terrorism.

              The other day, Apollo went & spoke to some people who had been recently released from detention in the Whipple Building, & it's abuse & torture happening in there.

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              • artemis@dice.campA artemis@dice.camp

                Hey, let's all promise each other right now that no matter what, we will not just settle down & accept these concentration camps.

                I've got a couple facets of my identity that could make me a target myself before long, so I won't be forgetting about them, but collectively let's agree that this will never be something we quietly accept or choose to ignore.

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                I mean, once we've gotten through some of this bullshit, we're going to need to talk about prison abolition & restorative justice, because, y'all, prisons are all torture. It's not fucking okay.

                But let's start with putting our foot down against the concentration camps.

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                • artemis@dice.campA artemis@dice.camp

                  It's fucking obscene what's happening right now, what ICE is getting away with. It's terrorism.

                  The other day, Apollo went & spoke to some people who had been recently released from detention in the Whipple Building, & it's abuse & torture happening in there.

                  artemis@dice.campA This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #8

                  Hey, let's all promise each other right now that no matter what, we will not just settle down & accept these concentration camps.

                  I've got a couple facets of my identity that could make me a target myself before long, so I won't be forgetting about them, but collectively let's agree that this will never be something we quietly accept or choose to ignore.

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                  • artemis@dice.campA artemis@dice.camp

                    I mean, once we've gotten through some of this bullshit, we're going to need to talk about prison abolition & restorative justice, because, y'all, prisons are all torture. It's not fucking okay.

                    But let's start with putting our foot down against the concentration camps.

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                    #9

                    It feels so fucking melodramatic to be like "oh, the fascists may soon be throwing people like me in death camps". It's really annoying that this is NOT melodrama but real life.

                    Given what's happening now, I do actually have reason to be quite concerned.

                    But again, it feels silly almost. I think that feeling of absurdity is one of the weapons of the enemy. It's hard to accept dire situations because we are accustomed to thinking "it could be worse".

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                    • artemis@dice.campA artemis@dice.camp

                      It feels so fucking melodramatic to be like "oh, the fascists may soon be throwing people like me in death camps". It's really annoying that this is NOT melodrama but real life.

                      Given what's happening now, I do actually have reason to be quite concerned.

                      But again, it feels silly almost. I think that feeling of absurdity is one of the weapons of the enemy. It's hard to accept dire situations because we are accustomed to thinking "it could be worse".

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                      And of course, if people think we're being "overly dramatic" about things now, a lot of them would keep saying that to us *while we're being dragged away to a concentration camp by government thugs*.

                      It's a pretense, a cover. It's not normal. Nothing is normal. Now is a good time to be *appropriately dramatic* about real things that are really happening right now.

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                      • artemis@dice.campA artemis@dice.camp

                        And of course, if people think we're being "overly dramatic" about things now, a lot of them would keep saying that to us *while we're being dragged away to a concentration camp by government thugs*.

                        It's a pretense, a cover. It's not normal. Nothing is normal. Now is a good time to be *appropriately dramatic* about real things that are really happening right now.

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                        #11

                        "First they came for..." etc.

                        Don't let anyone tell you this is normal or fine. Don't let anyone gaslight you. They're torturing detainees *right now*.

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                        • artemis@dice.campA artemis@dice.camp

                          "First they came for..." etc.

                          Don't let anyone tell you this is normal or fine. Don't let anyone gaslight you. They're torturing detainees *right now*.

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                          #12

                          Sure, I have specific fears for my individual future, but the thing we've feared is happening *now*.

                          This is not a future prediction about what may happen "if we continue down this path."

                          They are dehumanizing, kidnapping, abusing, & killing people *now*. It's fucking happening.

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                          • artemis@dice.campA artemis@dice.camp

                            It feels so fucking melodramatic to be like "oh, the fascists may soon be throwing people like me in death camps". It's really annoying that this is NOT melodrama but real life.

                            Given what's happening now, I do actually have reason to be quite concerned.

                            But again, it feels silly almost. I think that feeling of absurdity is one of the weapons of the enemy. It's hard to accept dire situations because we are accustomed to thinking "it could be worse".

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                            #13

                            @artemis We've spent our whole lives decrying "comic book evil" as something that can't really exist in the real world. And now suddenly we're faced with exactly that, in the real world.

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                            • artemis@dice.campA artemis@dice.camp

                              Sure, I have specific fears for my individual future, but the thing we've feared is happening *now*.

                              This is not a future prediction about what may happen "if we continue down this path."

                              They are dehumanizing, kidnapping, abusing, & killing people *now*. It's fucking happening.

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                              #14

                              Aside:

                              but seriously, if you want to know about prison abolition, I am NOT your person, as it is NOT my area of expertise, so I urge you to seek out information & learn more about the harms of carceral "justice".

                              Yes, we do need ways to deal with people who cause harm in our communities, but prisons are NOT it.

                              Maybe look through the books in the Firestorm catalog. They carry some real bangers.

                              https://firestorm.coop/catalog/section/67-police-prison-abolition.html

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                              • artemis@dice.campA artemis@dice.camp

                                Some ICE agents did wander around the alley behind his house recently. They walked right past his garage. Also walked across his lawn. Didn't seem to be a specific threat to him or anything but there are just groups of masked gunmen traipsing around through people's yards. Normal stuff.

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                                #15

                                @artemis reminds me of Northern Ireland during the troubles, just another day la la la oh there is a row of soldiers with automatic weapons poking through the bottom of the hedges in next door’s garden, and there comes the military helicopter to pick them up again from the field behind. La la la here come the armored personnel carriers with the guy with the gun sticking out the “sun roof”, let’s wave to them for a laugh. It’s just amazing what becomes “normal life” during a civil war.

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