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  • zachleat@fediverse.zachleat.comZ zachleat@fediverse.zachleat.com

    if you want stable and reliable software, give developers stable and reliable employment

    the_turtle@mastodon.sdf.orgT This user is from outside of this forum
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    #17

    @zachleat during the 1980s, when asked by potential employers "what commitment can you give us?" my response was always "exactly the commitment you can give to me."

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    • zachleat@fediverse.zachleat.comZ zachleat@fediverse.zachleat.com

      if you want stable and reliable software, give developers stable and reliable employment

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      spontaneouslydeliberate@infosec.exchange
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      #18

      @zachleat while I support stability for developers (union, anyone?), it sometimes goes too far. I have been in attrition-averse companies where complacent well-tenured engineers deliver flaky software. Those engineers have high cultural inertia so it is difficult to get them to start caring about robustness. If you can give your good developers confidence in their job stability while removing bad apples from your team, that's the dream.

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      • zachleat@fediverse.zachleat.comZ zachleat@fediverse.zachleat.com

        if you want stable and reliable software, give developers stable and reliable employment

        krono@toot.berlinK This user is from outside of this forum
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        #19

        @zachleat Fred Brooks second corollary

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        • zachleat@fediverse.zachleat.comZ zachleat@fediverse.zachleat.com

          if you want stable and reliable software, give developers stable and reliable employment

          zachleat@fediverse.zachleat.comZ This user is from outside of this forum
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          #20

          follow me for incredibly controversial and spicy takes on software development

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          • zachleat@fediverse.zachleat.comZ zachleat@fediverse.zachleat.com

            if you want stable and reliable software, give developers stable and reliable employment

            davatron5000@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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            #21

            @zachleat yes, and, unlimited Trader Joe's Takis.

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            • zachleat@fediverse.zachleat.comZ zachleat@fediverse.zachleat.com

              if you want stable and reliable software, give developers stable and reliable employment

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              #22

              @zachleat And a union 😉

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              • davatron5000@mastodon.socialD davatron5000@mastodon.social

                @zachleat yes, and, unlimited Trader Joe's Takis.

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                #23

                @davatron5000 well wait which of these are higher priority

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                • aaron@front-end.socialA aaron@front-end.social

                  @zachleat And a union 😉

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                  #24

                  @Aaron 👀

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                  • zachleat@fediverse.zachleat.comZ zachleat@fediverse.zachleat.com

                    if you want stable and reliable software, give developers stable and reliable employment

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                    #25

                    @zachleat nah, I personally love the idea of struggling for my entire career and not having a retirement, while some Great People That Clearly Work Hard And Who We All Should Idolize make more money than a single person could possible need in multiple lifetimes.

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                    • zachleat@fediverse.zachleat.comZ zachleat@fediverse.zachleat.com

                      if you want stable and reliable software, give developers stable and reliable employment

                      theorangetheme@en.osm.townT This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #26

                      @zachleat You mean programmers write better software when they don't feel like trapped rats? I am *shocked*, sir!

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                      • zachleat@fediverse.zachleat.comZ zachleat@fediverse.zachleat.com

                        if you want stable and reliable software, give developers stable and reliable employment

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                        #27

                        @zachleat ain't no employer wants a stable and reliable software, they want stable and reliable income and most of the time they outsource employment to HR agencies which fucks you over

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                        • zachleat@fediverse.zachleat.comZ zachleat@fediverse.zachleat.com

                          @slab_bulkhead because corporations like money

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                          #28

                          @zachleat making money? In this economy??

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                          • zachleat@fediverse.zachleat.comZ zachleat@fediverse.zachleat.com

                            if you want stable and reliable software, give developers stable and reliable employment

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                            #29

                            @zachleat Is this a subtle call for publicly funding critical open source? 🙂

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                            • zachleat@fediverse.zachleat.comZ zachleat@fediverse.zachleat.com

                              if you want stable and reliable software, give developers stable and reliable employment

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                              #30

                              @zachleat Yeah 🤘🏻

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                              • zachleat@fediverse.zachleat.comZ zachleat@fediverse.zachleat.com

                                if you want stable and reliable software, give developers stable and reliable employment

                                stu@theforkiverse.comS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #31

                                @zachleat does this work for relationships

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                                • stu@theforkiverse.comS stu@theforkiverse.com

                                  @zachleat does this work for relationships

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                                  #32

                                  @Stu if you want stable and reliable relationships, be stable and reliable for your friends? 🤝

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                                  • zachleat@fediverse.zachleat.comZ zachleat@fediverse.zachleat.com

                                    if you want stable and reliable software, give developers stable and reliable employment

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                                    #33

                                    @zachleat nice, this works for #Research and #Academia as well 🙂

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                                    • zachleat@fediverse.zachleat.comZ zachleat@fediverse.zachleat.com

                                      @Aaron 👀

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                                      #34

                                      @zachleat @Aaron hello comrades how do you do

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                                      • zachleat@fediverse.zachleat.comZ zachleat@fediverse.zachleat.com

                                        if you want stable and reliable software, give developers stable and reliable employment

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                                        #35

                                        @zachleat Exactly this. If I know I’ll be the one who deals with any defects in the software I write, I’m a damn sight more likely to avoid/mitigate them.

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                                        • zachleat@fediverse.zachleat.comZ zachleat@fediverse.zachleat.com

                                          if you want stable and reliable software, give developers stable and reliable employment

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                                          #36

                                          @zachleat The thing is they don't want stable and reliable software. Microslop is good enough for them... And that's why we no longer have stable and reliable employment.

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