Roman elites drank from leaded cups because it made water sweeter.
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@Hex except for most of those inventions you mentioned, the people didn't know it was bad at the time, not even the experts. Now we do

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Roman elites drank from leaded cups because it made water sweeter. Radiation was thought at one time to have healing properties, so people would add uranium to their drinking water. Glowing dishes are still a collectors item. After the discovery of x-rays, shoe stores started installing them and using them on kids feet to size shoes. Lead was added to gasoline to improve engine performance, and paint to make it whiter. We all know about asbestos and DDT.
We look back at all of this and think, "how could people have been so incompetent back then?" Some of these things caused irreparable harm in their generation, some continue to cause harm today almost 100 years later.
If you wonder that, look at the whole #LLM thing and you have your answer.
@Hex fucking radiation was still considered to have healing properties in 2014. Radon gas. I was to be in the "healing pools with natural radon gas" in a hotel/hospital. And at the same time they put radon detectors in houses... fucking hell... luckily I was a bit more educated, was on the last (13th) floor of that facility and never went to the pool...
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Roman elites drank from leaded cups because it made water sweeter. Radiation was thought at one time to have healing properties, so people would add uranium to their drinking water. Glowing dishes are still a collectors item. After the discovery of x-rays, shoe stores started installing them and using them on kids feet to size shoes. Lead was added to gasoline to improve engine performance, and paint to make it whiter. We all know about asbestos and DDT.
We look back at all of this and think, "how could people have been so incompetent back then?" Some of these things caused irreparable harm in their generation, some continue to cause harm today almost 100 years later.
If you wonder that, look at the whole #LLM thing and you have your answer.
Things haven’t changed. Now we have PFAs in our clothing, on our Apple wrist bands, in our boots, basically anything that’s waterproof. And how about those plastic bottles that we’ve been drinking from for the past 20+ years resulting in microplastics in every organ? Every century has its poisons.
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Roman elites drank from leaded cups because it made water sweeter. Radiation was thought at one time to have healing properties, so people would add uranium to their drinking water. Glowing dishes are still a collectors item. After the discovery of x-rays, shoe stores started installing them and using them on kids feet to size shoes. Lead was added to gasoline to improve engine performance, and paint to make it whiter. We all know about asbestos and DDT.
We look back at all of this and think, "how could people have been so incompetent back then?" Some of these things caused irreparable harm in their generation, some continue to cause harm today almost 100 years later.
If you wonder that, look at the whole #LLM thing and you have your answer.
@Hex microplastics, forever chemicals, burnt animal fats...
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@Hex In German this is called "Lernen durch Schmerzen" -- learning by pain.
Edit: this practice is usually applied by people that just do not learn, ever...
@marco_m_aus_f @Hex Is there a German term yet for people who want to bring these things _back_??
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Roman elites drank from leaded cups because it made water sweeter. Radiation was thought at one time to have healing properties, so people would add uranium to their drinking water. Glowing dishes are still a collectors item. After the discovery of x-rays, shoe stores started installing them and using them on kids feet to size shoes. Lead was added to gasoline to improve engine performance, and paint to make it whiter. We all know about asbestos and DDT.
We look back at all of this and think, "how could people have been so incompetent back then?" Some of these things caused irreparable harm in their generation, some continue to cause harm today almost 100 years later.
If you wonder that, look at the whole #LLM thing and you have your answer.
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Things haven’t changed. Now we have PFAs in our clothing, on our Apple wrist bands, in our boots, basically anything that’s waterproof. And how about those plastic bottles that we’ve been drinking from for the past 20+ years resulting in microplastics in every organ? Every century has its poisons.
@CherylA The largest percentage of microplastics comes from tyres/tires. And we're building more roads? Even electric vehicles need rubber on the road.
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Roman elites drank from leaded cups because it made water sweeter. Radiation was thought at one time to have healing properties, so people would add uranium to their drinking water. Glowing dishes are still a collectors item. After the discovery of x-rays, shoe stores started installing them and using them on kids feet to size shoes. Lead was added to gasoline to improve engine performance, and paint to make it whiter. We all know about asbestos and DDT.
We look back at all of this and think, "how could people have been so incompetent back then?" Some of these things caused irreparable harm in their generation, some continue to cause harm today almost 100 years later.
If you wonder that, look at the whole #LLM thing and you have your answer.
Because health and safety has always been based ob proving something is dangerous, not on proving something is safe.
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@CherylA The largest percentage of microplastics comes from tyres/tires. And we're building more roads? Even electric vehicles need rubber on the road.
Yup. It’s everywhere. Plastic cutting boards in the kitchen, plastic ice trays, plastic storage containers, clothes, tea bags (used as a sealant) - and of course the tires for your EV!
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Roman elites drank from leaded cups because it made water sweeter. Radiation was thought at one time to have healing properties, so people would add uranium to their drinking water. Glowing dishes are still a collectors item. After the discovery of x-rays, shoe stores started installing them and using them on kids feet to size shoes. Lead was added to gasoline to improve engine performance, and paint to make it whiter. We all know about asbestos and DDT.
We look back at all of this and think, "how could people have been so incompetent back then?" Some of these things caused irreparable harm in their generation, some continue to cause harm today almost 100 years later.
If you wonder that, look at the whole #LLM thing and you have your answer.
@Hex Not to mention that we all now have microplastics and nanoplastics in our brains equivalent to the amount in a typical plastic spoon. All of the world's water and lifeforms are contaminated with it, as well as PFAs and god knows what else. And our masters are just manufacturing more and more plastic!
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Yup. It’s everywhere. Plastic cutting boards in the kitchen, plastic ice trays, plastic storage containers, clothes, tea bags (used as a sealant) - and of course the tires for your EV!
@CherylA Ubiquitous, like bloody PFAs

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Roman elites drank from leaded cups because it made water sweeter. Radiation was thought at one time to have healing properties, so people would add uranium to their drinking water. Glowing dishes are still a collectors item. After the discovery of x-rays, shoe stores started installing them and using them on kids feet to size shoes. Lead was added to gasoline to improve engine performance, and paint to make it whiter. We all know about asbestos and DDT.
We look back at all of this and think, "how could people have been so incompetent back then?" Some of these things caused irreparable harm in their generation, some continue to cause harm today almost 100 years later.
If you wonder that, look at the whole #LLM thing and you have your answer.
@Hex and pfas, and car exhaust, and... *gestures broadly*
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Roman elites drank from leaded cups because it made water sweeter. Radiation was thought at one time to have healing properties, so people would add uranium to their drinking water. Glowing dishes are still a collectors item. After the discovery of x-rays, shoe stores started installing them and using them on kids feet to size shoes. Lead was added to gasoline to improve engine performance, and paint to make it whiter. We all know about asbestos and DDT.
We look back at all of this and think, "how could people have been so incompetent back then?" Some of these things caused irreparable harm in their generation, some continue to cause harm today almost 100 years later.
If you wonder that, look at the whole #LLM thing and you have your answer.
Oh hey, related:
https://quitgpt.org/ -
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