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I tip my hat to #Bose for giving owners of soon-to-be End of Life/support speakers the garantuee that the devices will continue to function and giving them the information needed to collectively build new tools to do even more with them.

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  • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ This user is from outside of this forum
    jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    I tip my hat to #Bose for giving owners of soon-to-be End of Life/support speakers the garantuee that the devices will continue to function and giving them the information needed to collectively build new tools to do even more with them. Thank you, Bose!

    https://www.bose.com/soundtouch-end-of-life

    jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ danimrich@mastodon.socialD pettter@social.accum.seP tuban_muzuru@beige.partyT echopapa@social.tchncs.deE 14 Antworten Letzte Antwort
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    • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

      I tip my hat to #Bose for giving owners of soon-to-be End of Life/support speakers the garantuee that the devices will continue to function and giving them the information needed to collectively build new tools to do even more with them. Thank you, Bose!

      https://www.bose.com/soundtouch-end-of-life

      jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ This user is from outside of this forum
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      #2

      In before the first „they should make all firmware and schematics open source!1!!“ replies 😉

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      • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

        I tip my hat to #Bose for giving owners of soon-to-be End of Life/support speakers the garantuee that the devices will continue to function and giving them the information needed to collectively build new tools to do even more with them. Thank you, Bose!

        https://www.bose.com/soundtouch-end-of-life

        danimrich@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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        #3

        @jwildeboer This is better than nothing, but I would appreciate it if companies open-sourced stuff like this at the start of the products' lifecycle, instead of at the end.

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        • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

          I tip my hat to #Bose for giving owners of soon-to-be End of Life/support speakers the garantuee that the devices will continue to function and giving them the information needed to collectively build new tools to do even more with them. Thank you, Bose!

          https://www.bose.com/soundtouch-end-of-life

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          #4

          @jwildeboer Maybe they learned from the "recycling mode" debacle Sonos had a bunch of years back when they asked people to brick their fully functional speakers to get a discount on a new purchase. EDIT: misremembered, it was SONOS what did that

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          • pettter@social.accum.seP pettter@social.accum.se

            @jwildeboer Maybe they learned from the "recycling mode" debacle Sonos had a bunch of years back when they asked people to brick their fully functional speakers to get a discount on a new purchase. EDIT: misremembered, it was SONOS what did that

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            @jwildeboer No wait that was Sonos!

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            • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

              I tip my hat to #Bose for giving owners of soon-to-be End of Life/support speakers the garantuee that the devices will continue to function and giving them the information needed to collectively build new tools to do even more with them. Thank you, Bose!

              https://www.bose.com/soundtouch-end-of-life

              tuban_muzuru@beige.partyT This user is from outside of this forum
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              #6

              @jwildeboer

              This is how it's done, right. These days, anything which can be migrated out of the Cloud, should be - just work with the people affected by the migration.

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              • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                I tip my hat to #Bose for giving owners of soon-to-be End of Life/support speakers the garantuee that the devices will continue to function and giving them the information needed to collectively build new tools to do even more with them. Thank you, Bose!

                https://www.bose.com/soundtouch-end-of-life

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                #7

                @jwildeboer

                That sounds nice ..

                I inherited a Bose Soundtouch from my father, and that's at least a halfway positive outcome for a cloud solution. Normally, it's a case of unplugging the server and leaving the customer to figure out what to do with the electronic waste.

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                • danimrich@mastodon.socialD danimrich@mastodon.social

                  @jwildeboer This is better than nothing, but I would appreciate it if companies open-sourced stuff like this at the start of the products' lifecycle, instead of at the end.

                  hydrian@twit.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #8

                  @danimrich @jwildeboer While I agree with you, I see why they won't. Unique features are the lifeblood of products like Bose and Sonos. Open-sourcing the features as it comes out is handing lots of R&D to their competitors.

                  Personally, once a product is EoLed and has external dependencies, companies should be required by law to release API specs so the devices can be maintained.

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                  • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                    I tip my hat to #Bose for giving owners of soon-to-be End of Life/support speakers the garantuee that the devices will continue to function and giving them the information needed to collectively build new tools to do even more with them. Thank you, Bose!

                    https://www.bose.com/soundtouch-end-of-life

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                    #9

                    @jwildeboer Gives one confidence that their products will last even without support, I hope this is not a one-off.

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                    • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                      I tip my hat to #Bose for giving owners of soon-to-be End of Life/support speakers the garantuee that the devices will continue to function and giving them the information needed to collectively build new tools to do even more with them. Thank you, Bose!

                      https://www.bose.com/soundtouch-end-of-life

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                      #10

                      @jwildeboer Yes; it proves that other companies can do the same. We need to legislate to make sure they do. The documentation could be uploaded at time of production to a locked database, that unlocks automatically if the producer goes into liquidation or is bought out. Too many good products are deliberately sabotaged by the manufacturer at the end-of-life to get people to buy new replacements. I'm not under the impression that Bose have done this for any reason other than good PR, though.

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                      • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                        I tip my hat to #Bose for giving owners of soon-to-be End of Life/support speakers the garantuee that the devices will continue to function and giving them the information needed to collectively build new tools to do even more with them. Thank you, Bose!

                        https://www.bose.com/soundtouch-end-of-life

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                        #11

                        @jwildeboer Hmmm so not too many existing features will stop working ... I guess that means the second market won't be flooded with devices that only techies like us will want. Damn 🙂
                        But in all seriousness, this is a great approach from #bose. Full marks (even if, as per your other comment, the firmware isn't equally open!)

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                        • hydrian@twit.socialH hydrian@twit.social

                          @danimrich @jwildeboer While I agree with you, I see why they won't. Unique features are the lifeblood of products like Bose and Sonos. Open-sourcing the features as it comes out is handing lots of R&D to their competitors.

                          Personally, once a product is EoLed and has external dependencies, companies should be required by law to release API specs so the devices can be maintained.

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                          #12

                          @hydrian I agree with the EOL law demand.
                          I see Bose and Sonos primarily as hardware manufacturers. I think in the history of tech, there are quite a few cases in which the more open, less restrictive hardware has had more success in the market (including licensing/patents).
                          I get that they would like to milk their customer base a bit more - but for me, possible vendor lock-in makes products less attractive.

                          @jwildeboer

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                          • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                            I tip my hat to #Bose for giving owners of soon-to-be End of Life/support speakers the garantuee that the devices will continue to function and giving them the information needed to collectively build new tools to do even more with them. Thank you, Bose!

                            https://www.bose.com/soundtouch-end-of-life

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                            #13

                            @jwildeboer This is good to know for the future.

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                            • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                              I tip my hat to #Bose for giving owners of soon-to-be End of Life/support speakers the garantuee that the devices will continue to function and giving them the information needed to collectively build new tools to do even more with them. Thank you, Bose!

                              https://www.bose.com/soundtouch-end-of-life

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                              #14

                              @jwildeboer

                              OH? Is that what it said because I read it as saying that your speakers will become bookends after a certain date.

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                              • lanaehforaday@universeodon.comL lanaehforaday@universeodon.com

                                @jwildeboer

                                OH? Is that what it said because I read it as saying that your speakers will become bookends after a certain date.

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                                #15

                                @LaNaehForaday Not sure how you conclude from these statements that the speakers will become bookends? They will continue to work until they fall apart 🙂

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                                • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                                  I tip my hat to #Bose for giving owners of soon-to-be End of Life/support speakers the garantuee that the devices will continue to function and giving them the information needed to collectively build new tools to do even more with them. Thank you, Bose!

                                  https://www.bose.com/soundtouch-end-of-life

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                                  #16

                                  @jwildeboer It's a big improvement, but should have been done like this from the start. The people working on #soundcork working on reverse engineering the server features already.
                                  https://github.com/deborahgu/soundcork

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                                  • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                                    I tip my hat to #Bose for giving owners of soon-to-be End of Life/support speakers the garantuee that the devices will continue to function and giving them the information needed to collectively build new tools to do even more with them. Thank you, Bose!

                                    https://www.bose.com/soundtouch-end-of-life

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                                    @jwildeboer I wish more tech would do this. Actually, I'd like legislation requiring it. There are so many devices that went under in the "smart" era, leaving their owners with expensive paperweights. I'd especially love to see Logitech's Harmony remote system get opened up like this, since I still use mine.

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                                    • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                                      @LaNaehForaday Not sure how you conclude from these statements that the speakers will become bookends? They will continue to work until they fall apart 🙂

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                                      #18

                                      @jwildeboer

                                      Geez I have no idea how I concluded that they would not work when they said, they would not work

                                      What will no longer work:
                                      . Browsing or playing music services directly in the SoundTouch app

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                                      • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                                        @LaNaehForaday Not sure how you conclude from these statements that the speakers will become bookends? They will continue to work until they fall apart 🙂

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                                        #19

                                        @jwildeboer

                                        You are right

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                                        • jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net

                                          I tip my hat to #Bose for giving owners of soon-to-be End of Life/support speakers the garantuee that the devices will continue to function and giving them the information needed to collectively build new tools to do even more with them. Thank you, Bose!

                                          https://www.bose.com/soundtouch-end-of-life

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                                          #20

                                          @jwildeboer I don't know about their new items, but I had the idea for "sound canon" before I saw theirs.
                                          What I ended up using for my project at the time instead used multiple small speakers on the same baffle.
                                          no big deal, who was I to pick a winner?

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