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One of the greatest strengths of the English language is any noun can be an insult if delivered in the right tone.

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  • cassana@the-crossroads-inn.comC cassana@the-crossroads-inn.com

    @afewbugs New grammar module:
    British english insultative vocative: “You (insert random creatively applicable noun).
    Emphatic insultative vocative: “you absolute …”
    This one is of course related and regularly combined with the common exclamatory vocative: "Oy!", e.g., "oy, you absolute disco light!"

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    #30

    @cassana @afewbugs note that, without the “you”, exactly the same nouns can be used as a term of affection.

    “Hello, gazebo!” — affectionate
    “You table!” — insulting

    As Pete Seeger noted, English is crazy.

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    • lerxst@az.socialL lerxst@az.social

      @afewbugs also nearly every alliterative “verbing the noun” construction sounds like an euphemism for masturbation.

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      #31

      @lerxst @afewbugs “Are you verbing the noun in there Billy? You’ll go blind if you’re not careful!”

      Doesn’t have to be alliterative.

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      • cassana@the-crossroads-inn.comC cassana@the-crossroads-inn.com

        @jetlagjen @quixoticgeek @afewbugs The funny thing is that it only works with a solid British accent. I used to get mistaken for Canadian when talking English for a long time, but then I moved to the UK, and all that shifted to modern RP with hints of Essex and London. And suddenly this magical world of creative vocabulary and wordplay opened up to me.

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        #32

        @cassana @quixoticgeek @afewbugs that's delightful! I hope you're having fun with it.

        Although it only works in British accents, it does work in *all* of them.

        "Ahm bluddy loo rawlled, eh?" (Cumbria)

        "Ye buzz seat!" (West Midlands)

        "We'll gan get bridged" (Geordie)

        "He is such a bookcase!" (RP)

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        • caity@bne.socialC caity@bne.social

          @afewbugs See Australian usage of "mate" ...

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          #33

          @caity @afewbugs That's not just limited to Australia - still practiced in the UK, too ...

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          • lerxst@az.socialL lerxst@az.social

            @afewbugs also nearly every alliterative “verbing the noun” construction sounds like an euphemism for masturbation.

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            #34

            @afewbugs @lerxst «verbing my noun» especially

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            • afewbugs@social.coopA afewbugs@social.coop

              RE: https://mstdn.social/@sodslawyer/116056688380387248

              One of the greatest strengths of the English language is any noun can be an insult if delivered in the right tone.

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              #35

              @afewbugs
              Haha, not only the English language. My mom freaked when I called my brother "een aangebrand stuk protoplasma" = a piece of burnt protoplasm in my teens.
              🤷‍♀️

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              • carstenboll@mstdn.dkC carstenboll@mstdn.dk

                @afewbugs @DamonHD @Flisty

                But then it occured to me, he wanted to get verbed! Ah, good ol' Timmy, what an absolute noun!

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                #36

                @CarstenBoll @afewbugs @DamonHD @Flisty

                Exactly this!

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                • afewbugs@social.coopA afewbugs@social.coop

                  RE: https://mstdn.social/@sodslawyer/116056688380387248

                  One of the greatest strengths of the English language is any noun can be an insult if delivered in the right tone.

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                  #37

                  @afewbugs My kid sister *hated* it when I called her words she didn’t understand. I used to ask how the weather was in German, with a sneer in my voice, or call her an australopithecus. Drove her mental. Good times. ❤️

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                  • amro@todon.nlA amro@todon.nl

                    @afewbugs
                    Haha, not only the English language. My mom freaked when I called my brother "een aangebrand stuk protoplasma" = a piece of burnt protoplasm in my teens.
                    🤷‍♀️

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                    #38

                    @amro @afewbugs

                    Heh, well since another Dutch speaking person chimed in as well, I'll add 2 of my own...

                    I've been to call people:

                    "ongelofelijke natte sok" (incredible wet sock) for when I want to say a vulgar thing but can't or won't

                    "slappe pannekoek" (weak/soft pancake" for when someone is being a spineless wet sock

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                    • afewbugs@social.coopA afewbugs@social.coop

                      RE: https://mstdn.social/@sodslawyer/116056688380387248

                      One of the greatest strengths of the English language is any noun can be an insult if delivered in the right tone.

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                      #39

                      @afewbugs I present the ultimate master of insulting tone. Malcom Tucker AKA know as Peter Capaldi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjKHPv7b3fQ&t=109s

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                      • aprazeth@mstdn.socialA aprazeth@mstdn.social

                        @amro @afewbugs

                        Heh, well since another Dutch speaking person chimed in as well, I'll add 2 of my own...

                        I've been to call people:

                        "ongelofelijke natte sok" (incredible wet sock) for when I want to say a vulgar thing but can't or won't

                        "slappe pannekoek" (weak/soft pancake" for when someone is being a spineless wet sock

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                        #40

                        @Aprazeth @afewbugs
                        To be fair "pannenkoek" has become more en-vogue as a swearword in dutch the last couple of years.

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                        • amro@todon.nlA amro@todon.nl

                          @Aprazeth @afewbugs
                          To be fair "pannenkoek" has become more en-vogue as a swearword in dutch the last couple of years.

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                          #41

                          @amro @afewbugs

                          That it indeed is. And we are all better for it 🙂

                          There is of course "spetterpoep hoofd" as well, but how do you translate that? Should we translate that?

                          Also, bonus points for finding and posting that photo (and including alt-text!)

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                          • aprazeth@mstdn.socialA aprazeth@mstdn.social

                            @amro @afewbugs

                            That it indeed is. And we are all better for it 🙂

                            There is of course "spetterpoep hoofd" as well, but how do you translate that? Should we translate that?

                            Also, bonus points for finding and posting that photo (and including alt-text!)

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                            #42

                            @Aprazeth @afewbugs
                            Hahah... Thank you and no, we shouldn't.
                            English has suffered enough.

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                            • afewbugs@social.coopA afewbugs@social.coop

                              RE: https://mstdn.social/@sodslawyer/116056688380387248

                              One of the greatest strengths of the English language is any noun can be an insult if delivered in the right tone.

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                              #43

                              @afewbugs I really like "wet wipe" -- covers so many facets!!!

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                              • jetlagjen@gts.phillipsuk.orgJ jetlagjen@gts.phillipsuk.org

                                @quixoticgeek @cassana @afewbugs or mix and match!

                                "You're totally tabled, you utter biro!"

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                                #44

                                @jetlagjen lolled

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                                • cassana@the-crossroads-inn.comC cassana@the-crossroads-inn.com

                                  @jetlagjen @quixoticgeek @afewbugs The funny thing is that it only works with a solid British accent. I used to get mistaken for Canadian when talking English for a long time, but then I moved to the UK, and all that shifted to modern RP with hints of Essex and London. And suddenly this magical world of creative vocabulary and wordplay opened up to me.

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                                  #45

                                  @cassana I don't think 'only," but I do think maybe "better"...

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                                  • afewbugs@social.coopA afewbugs@social.coop

                                    RE: https://mstdn.social/@sodslawyer/116056688380387248

                                    One of the greatest strengths of the English language is any noun can be an insult if delivered in the right tone.

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                                    #46

                                    @afewbugs this is a great thread! 💕

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                                    • acm_redfox@jawns.clubA acm_redfox@jawns.club

                                      @cassana I don't think 'only," but I do think maybe "better"...

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                                      #47

                                      @acm_redfox Technically, sure. I’m assuming you have specific examples in mind?

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                                      • afewbugs@social.coopA afewbugs@social.coop

                                        RE: https://mstdn.social/@sodslawyer/116056688380387248

                                        One of the greatest strengths of the English language is any noun can be an insult if delivered in the right tone.

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                                        #48

                                        @afewbugs Reminds me: in French you can be very disgusting by speaking extra nice in a very high language level ... I often use that in contact with aggressive or bad administration officers.

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                                        • amro@todon.nlA amro@todon.nl

                                          @afewbugs
                                          Haha, not only the English language. My mom freaked when I called my brother "een aangebrand stuk protoplasma" = a piece of burnt protoplasm in my teens.
                                          🤷‍♀️

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                                          #49

                                          @amro @afewbugs 🤣🤣🤣

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