I'm so old I remember when the internet didn't have commercials.
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@stuartl @geospacedman @kibcol1049 When I were young we just had 2 rocks to bang together.
@BackFromTheDud @geospacedman @kibcol1049 Nothing wrong with rock music.
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@woo @AncTreat5358 @trouble @geospacedman @kibcol1049 The type system in Algol 68C was, it seemed to me, so strict that when you eventually managed to get your code to compile it didn't have any bugs left in it!
@TimWardCam @AncTreat5358 @trouble @geospacedman @kibcol1049 I certainly never had time to discover any deeper bugs, by the time I got anything to compile. We only had 2 compiles per day, max.
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@TimWardCam @AncTreat5358 @trouble @geospacedman @kibcol1049 I certainly never had time to discover any deeper bugs, by the time I got anything to compile. We only had 2 compiles per day, max.
@woo @AncTreat5358 @trouble @geospacedman @kibcol1049 The CAP had little else to do all day but act as a toy for research students. https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/events/50+5/assets/pdf/cap.pdf
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@AncTreat5358 @trouble @geospacedman @kibcol1049 Tooting of the founding folks, I just discovered that Martin Richards recently wrote a paper about BCPL on the Raspberry Pi. He was Eben Upton's PhD supervisor.
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@AncTreat5358 @trouble @geospacedman @kibcol1049 I've been looking for part 2 but he hasn't finished writing it yet https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mr10/bcpl4raspi.pdf
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@MissConstrue @trouble @AncTreat5358 @geospacedman @kibcol1049
I missed punchcards by about a year, d we got to use the snazzy new 80 column green screen monitors
@julesbl @trouble @AncTreat5358 @geospacedman @kibcol1049
oooooh fancy! (to be honest, the only reason I had a punchcard class is because I was 14 or 15 taking uni classes at a tech college. They were already being deprecated, this course was more history than future planning.)
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I'm so old I remember when the internet didn't have commercials.
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@woo @AncTreat5358 @trouble @geospacedman @kibcol1049 The type system in Algol 68C was, it seemed to me, so strict that when you eventually managed to get your code to compile it didn't have any bugs left in it!
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@kelvin0mql @kibcol1049 @harrymuzz
I wouldn't be surprised if banks still used punchcards for their COBOL
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You still could have an endless Loop.@Oddel @TimWardCam @AncTreat5358 @trouble @geospacedman @kibcol1049 You need to be able to have an endless loop, for computation to be general. "It's not a bug, it's a feature".
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@harrymuzz At my first job, the computer room temperature was controlled with double door air lock to enter. The computer was huge with punch card operators typing and huge floor to ceiling reel to reel tapes. The print outs were on large sheets of paper and took several runs for all the errors to be corrected. With programmers, inputters and clerks, there were about 8 staff. Nowadays a kid of 8 or 9 could do it all and more on a smartphone and 30 times quicker! Hard to believe but true.
@kibcol1049 I remeber the double doors, and the tape decks, first hardware I operated had 1 inch tape, and we had to skew the head with a large screwdriver , watching an oscilloscope to get lined up......The air con noise, that endless stationary ...........64k, K!! filled a small room.
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@kibcol1049 I remeber the double doors, and the tape decks, first hardware I operated had 1 inch tape, and we had to skew the head with a large screwdriver , watching an oscilloscope to get lined up......The air con noise, that endless stationary ...........64k, K!! filled a small room.
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@kibcol1049 I remeber the double doors, and the tape decks, first hardware I operated had 1 inch tape, and we had to skew the head with a large screwdriver , watching an oscilloscope to get lined up......The air con noise, that endless stationary ...........64k, K!! filled a small room.
@harrymuzz @kibcol1049 my first job in the industry was realigning the heads on 8" drives with a screwdriver you'd consider too big for working on your car these days

They were pretty much obsolete by this time but it just shows how quickly things change. These days there will be people starting their first jobs surprised that physical media is still used in their new workplace.
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@harrymuzz @kibcol1049 my first job in the industry was realigning the heads on 8" drives with a screwdriver you'd consider too big for working on your car these days

They were pretty much obsolete by this time but it just shows how quickly things change. These days there will be people starting their first jobs surprised that physical media is still used in their new workplace.
@naturepunk @harrymuzz @kibcol1049
Can relate.
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I'm so old I remember when the internet didn't have commercials.
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Can I be the 94th person to say I remember the Internet without the World Wide Web -
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Can I be the 94th person to say I remember the Internet without the World Wide Web@robpumphrey @kibcol1049 Me too. And with every passing day, I think I preferred it a little more...
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I'm so old I remember when the internet didn't have commercials.
@kibcol1049 Me too! I go back to the days of Usenet.
Sometimes I wonder if we could somehow use Usenet to organize against the oligarchy. It was designed to resist atomic attack, after all...
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@kibcol1049 Me too! I go back to the days of Usenet.
Sometimes I wonder if we could somehow use Usenet to organize against the oligarchy. It was designed to resist atomic attack, after all...
@Quasit @kibcol1049 just because something can survive nuclear war doesn't mean it can survive unmoderated spam, porn and nazis.
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@Quasit @kibcol1049 just because something can survive nuclear war doesn't mean it can survive unmoderated spam, porn and nazis.
True, but that might actually help. Protective camouflage. With all that crap out there, how will they find cunningly-disguised encrypted communications?
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True, but that might actually help. Protective camouflage. With all that crap out there, how will they find cunningly-disguised encrypted communications?
@Quasit @kibcol1049 "I'm not looking at porn, it's this quarter's KPI results hidden using steganography"
