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  • tantramar@zeroes.caT tantramar@zeroes.ca

    @NormanDunbar @kibcol1049 Canter & Siegel. I remember the Usenet backlash like it was yesterday.

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    #72

    @tantramar @NormanDunbar @kibcol1049

    I'll just leave this here ...
    https://sattlers.org/mickey/culture/humor/items/Geekish/montyPythonDeadServers.html

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    • bob@beamship.mpaq.orgB bob@beamship.mpaq.org

      @chuff @johnnyvibrant @IanDSmith @kibcol1049

      I remember a bridge between ICQ, AIM and JABBER, lol

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      #73

      @bob @chuff @johnnyvibrant @IanDSmith @kibcol1049 Google tried to kill XMCP bridges but I refuse to steal Stewart Lee's bridge work. Facebook was the Good Guy then.

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      • thelancashireman@hostux.socialT thelancashireman@hostux.social

        @tantramar @NormanDunbar @kibcol1049

        I'll just leave this here ...
        https://sattlers.org/mickey/culture/humor/items/Geekish/montyPythonDeadServers.html

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        #74

        @TheLancashireman @tantramar @NormanDunbar 😂

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        • anctreat5358@mindly.socialA anctreat5358@mindly.social

          @trouble @geospacedman @kibcol1049 Wasn't there a time when the internet was a line printer? Before my time, but I recall whispers from the founding folks.

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          #75

          @AncTreat5358 @trouble @geospacedman @kibcol1049 Tooting of the founding folks, I just discovered that Martin Richards recently wrote a paper about BCPL on the Raspberry Pi. He was Eben Upton's PhD supervisor.

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          • missconstrue@mefi.socialM missconstrue@mefi.social

            @trouble @AncTreat5358 @geospacedman @kibcol1049

            I have both programmed with punchcards, and maintained supercomputers with tape. I may be an Elder. 🤷🏻‍♀️🤘🏼🥳. Why I remember when we telnet into each others bbs, and we liked it!

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            #76

            @MissConstrue @trouble @AncTreat5358 @geospacedman @kibcol1049
            I missed punchcards by about a year, d we got to use the snazzy new 80 column green screen monitors 😃

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            • W woo@fosstodon.org

              @AncTreat5358 @trouble @geospacedman @kibcol1049 Tooting of the founding folks, I just discovered that Martin Richards recently wrote a paper about BCPL on the Raspberry Pi. He was Eben Upton's PhD supervisor.

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              #77

              @woo @AncTreat5358 @trouble @geospacedman @kibcol1049 I haven't seen Martin for many years. He gave me some advice once on porting BCPL to the then new-fangled 8080.

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              • timwardcam@c.imT timwardcam@c.im

                @woo @AncTreat5358 @trouble @geospacedman @kibcol1049 I haven't seen Martin for many years. He gave me some advice once on porting BCPL to the then new-fangled 8080.

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                #78

                @TimWardCam @AncTreat5358 @trouble @geospacedman @kibcol1049 I didn't know him but my first job was at CCAT, so I knew several people who did and my best friend at Aston University wrote a comparative report on typeless BCPL vs strictly-typed Algol 68 as his final year project. I wish I'd had time to read it 🙂

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                • W woo@fosstodon.org

                  @TimWardCam @AncTreat5358 @trouble @geospacedman @kibcol1049 I didn't know him but my first job was at CCAT, so I knew several people who did and my best friend at Aston University wrote a comparative report on typeless BCPL vs strictly-typed Algol 68 as his final year project. I wish I'd had time to read it 🙂

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                  #79

                  @woo @AncTreat5358 @trouble @geospacedman @kibcol1049 The type system in Algol 68C was, it seemed to me, so strict that when you eventually managed to get your code to compile it didn't have any bugs left in it!

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                  • kelvin0mql@mastodon.hams.socialK kelvin0mql@mastodon.hams.social

                    @nlarson830 @kibcol1049 @harrymuzz
                    I signed up for a community college sort of computer programming class, 'cuz I was certain computers would be a huge part of my career (correct).

                    Looked at the shopping list for the syllabus of the COBOL class, & saw I needed to buy a box of punch cards.

                    Immediately dropped the class. I would've been cool with learning COBOL, but if they were still doing punchcards when I already had an XT with dual floppy drives, they were too backward.

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                    #80

                    @kelvin0mql @kibcol1049 @harrymuzz

                    I wouldn't be surprised if banks still used punchcards for their COBOL

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                    • backfromthedud@mas.toB backfromthedud@mas.to

                      @stuartl @geospacedman @kibcol1049 When I were young we just had 2 rocks to bang together.

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                      #81

                      @BackFromTheDud @geospacedman @kibcol1049 Nothing wrong with rock music.

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                      • timwardcam@c.imT timwardcam@c.im

                        @woo @AncTreat5358 @trouble @geospacedman @kibcol1049 The type system in Algol 68C was, it seemed to me, so strict that when you eventually managed to get your code to compile it didn't have any bugs left in it!

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                        #82

                        @TimWardCam @AncTreat5358 @trouble @geospacedman @kibcol1049 I certainly never had time to discover any deeper bugs, by the time I got anything to compile. We only had 2 compiles per day, max.

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                        • W woo@fosstodon.org

                          @TimWardCam @AncTreat5358 @trouble @geospacedman @kibcol1049 I certainly never had time to discover any deeper bugs, by the time I got anything to compile. We only had 2 compiles per day, max.

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                          #83

                          @woo @AncTreat5358 @trouble @geospacedman @kibcol1049 The CAP had little else to do all day but act as a toy for research students. https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/events/50+5/assets/pdf/cap.pdf

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                          • W woo@fosstodon.org

                            @AncTreat5358 @trouble @geospacedman @kibcol1049 Tooting of the founding folks, I just discovered that Martin Richards recently wrote a paper about BCPL on the Raspberry Pi. He was Eben Upton's PhD supervisor.

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                            #84

                            @AncTreat5358 @trouble @geospacedman @kibcol1049 Here's Part 1
                            https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mr10/bcpl4raspi.pdf

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                            • W woo@fosstodon.org

                              @AncTreat5358 @trouble @geospacedman @kibcol1049 Here's Part 1
                              https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mr10/bcpl4raspi.pdf

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                              #85

                              @AncTreat5358 @trouble @geospacedman @kibcol1049 I've been looking for part 2 but he hasn't finished writing it yet https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mr10/bcpl4raspi.pdf

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                              • julesbl@mastodon.me.ukJ julesbl@mastodon.me.uk

                                @MissConstrue @trouble @AncTreat5358 @geospacedman @kibcol1049
                                I missed punchcards by about a year, d we got to use the snazzy new 80 column green screen monitors 😃

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                                #86

                                @julesbl @trouble @AncTreat5358 @geospacedman @kibcol1049

                                oooooh fancy! (to be honest, the only reason I had a punchcard class is because I was 14 or 15 taking uni classes at a tech college. They were already being deprecated, this course was more history than future planning.)

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                                • kibcol1049@mstdn.socialK kibcol1049@mstdn.social

                                  I'm so old I remember when the internet didn't have commercials.

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                                  #87

                                  @kibcol1049
                                  I am so old I used gopher and bang paths

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                                  • timwardcam@c.imT timwardcam@c.im

                                    @woo @AncTreat5358 @trouble @geospacedman @kibcol1049 The type system in Algol 68C was, it seemed to me, so strict that when you eventually managed to get your code to compile it didn't have any bugs left in it!

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                                    #88

                                    @TimWardCam @woo @AncTreat5358 @trouble @geospacedman @kibcol1049
                                    You still could have an endless Loop.

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                                    • nlarson830@techhub.socialN nlarson830@techhub.social

                                      @kelvin0mql @kibcol1049 @harrymuzz

                                      I wouldn't be surprised if banks still used punchcards for their COBOL

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                                      #89

                                      @nlarson830 @kelvin0mql @kibcol1049 @harrymuzz
                                      At least the programs might still have a 80 character per line format.

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                                      • oddel@social.cologneO oddel@social.cologne

                                        @TimWardCam @woo @AncTreat5358 @trouble @geospacedman @kibcol1049
                                        You still could have an endless Loop.

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                                        #90

                                        @Oddel @TimWardCam @AncTreat5358 @trouble @geospacedman @kibcol1049 You need to be able to have an endless loop, for computation to be general. "It's not a bug, it's a feature".

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                                        • kibcol1049@mstdn.socialK kibcol1049@mstdn.social

                                          @harrymuzz At my first job, the computer room temperature was controlled with double door air lock to enter. The computer was huge with punch card operators typing and huge floor to ceiling reel to reel tapes. The print outs were on large sheets of paper and took several runs for all the errors to be corrected. With programmers, inputters and clerks, there were about 8 staff. Nowadays a kid of 8 or 9 could do it all and more on a smartphone and 30 times quicker! Hard to believe but true.

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                                          #91

                                          @kibcol1049 I remeber the double doors, and the tape decks, first hardware I operated had 1 inch tape, and we had to skew the head with a large screwdriver , watching an oscilloscope to get lined up......The air con noise, that endless stationary ...........64k, K!! filled a small room.

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