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  • sawaba@infosec.exchangeS sawaba@infosec.exchange

    The enshittification of computer repair is happening.

    AI has amazingly managed to make repairable computers practically worthless.

    The increase in memory and storage pricing is destroying the second-hand market for computing hardware and this makes me sad. I watched a video from someone that runs a repair shop, and this is what's happening:

    The memory/storage alone is worth more than the rest of the computer, so people are stripping them out to sell separately.

    The second hand market is now flooded with computers that have no memory or storage. Buying new memory or storage to put in these used computers is now more expensive than buying a new computer.

    So we now suddenly have a giant e-waste problem PLUS a giant problem for repair shops that want to stay in business.

    In the video, he was basically saying that they have to pivot to the only computers that folks aren't stripping RAM and storage out of - computers that have those things soldered on. The irony here is that repair shops now have to ignore the most repairable computers and focus on the least repairable computers instead.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6eiFyJMWgM

    cc @pluralistic @iFixit

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    #13

    @sawaba @pluralistic @iFixit This is literally the worst outcome. What the fuck.

    #IHateAI

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    • bryce@mastodon.brycedixon.devB bryce@mastodon.brycedixon.dev

      @sawaba @JustinMac84 @pluralistic @iFixit I was able to upgrade an old enterprise server into a personal NAS with 128GB of RAM and 2 of literally the best CPUs available for the socket and I think the whole upgrade cost me $80 (both CPUs were only $20 combined). Granted, that was a few years ago and like I said the hardware is dated, but it's also still insanely overkill for what I use it for.

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      #14

      @bryce @JustinMac84 @pluralistic @iFixit True - computers don’t fall off a cliff like they used to. An M1 Macbook is still plenty fast for 99% of people today.

      I just revived a 2017 Lenovo X1 Carbon a few weeks ago with Linux. Runs like a dream and I got everything working on it - even the 4g modem!

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      • sawaba@infosec.exchangeS sawaba@infosec.exchange

        The enshittification of computer repair is happening.

        AI has amazingly managed to make repairable computers practically worthless.

        The increase in memory and storage pricing is destroying the second-hand market for computing hardware and this makes me sad. I watched a video from someone that runs a repair shop, and this is what's happening:

        The memory/storage alone is worth more than the rest of the computer, so people are stripping them out to sell separately.

        The second hand market is now flooded with computers that have no memory or storage. Buying new memory or storage to put in these used computers is now more expensive than buying a new computer.

        So we now suddenly have a giant e-waste problem PLUS a giant problem for repair shops that want to stay in business.

        In the video, he was basically saying that they have to pivot to the only computers that folks aren't stripping RAM and storage out of - computers that have those things soldered on. The irony here is that repair shops now have to ignore the most repairable computers and focus on the least repairable computers instead.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6eiFyJMWgM

        cc @pluralistic @iFixit

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        #15

        @sawaba @pluralistic @iFixit

        What's the issue, you can just use 'AWS cloud computer'for a low low price of only $99/mo. Computers are an outdated concept, you lot just don't want progress.

        /s

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        • properlypurple@tech.lgbtP properlypurple@tech.lgbt

          @sawaba @pluralistic @iFixit

          What's the issue, you can just use 'AWS cloud computer'for a low low price of only $99/mo. Computers are an outdated concept, you lot just don't want progress.

          /s

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          #16

          @sawaba For the uninitiated, the `/s` at the end means I'm being sarcastic

          https://toneindicators.carrd.co/#masterlist

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          • sawaba@infosec.exchangeS sawaba@infosec.exchange

            The enshittification of computer repair is happening.

            AI has amazingly managed to make repairable computers practically worthless.

            The increase in memory and storage pricing is destroying the second-hand market for computing hardware and this makes me sad. I watched a video from someone that runs a repair shop, and this is what's happening:

            The memory/storage alone is worth more than the rest of the computer, so people are stripping them out to sell separately.

            The second hand market is now flooded with computers that have no memory or storage. Buying new memory or storage to put in these used computers is now more expensive than buying a new computer.

            So we now suddenly have a giant e-waste problem PLUS a giant problem for repair shops that want to stay in business.

            In the video, he was basically saying that they have to pivot to the only computers that folks aren't stripping RAM and storage out of - computers that have those things soldered on. The irony here is that repair shops now have to ignore the most repairable computers and focus on the least repairable computers instead.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6eiFyJMWgM

            cc @pluralistic @iFixit

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            #17

            @sawaba @pluralistic @iFixit
            When OpenAI goes belly up there will be a fire sale on all that RAM they ordered and can't pay for.

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            • davbram@ravenation.clubD davbram@ravenation.club

              @sawaba @pluralistic @iFixit
              When OpenAI goes belly up there will be a fire sale on all that RAM they ordered and can't pay for.

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              #18

              @davbram @sawaba @pluralistic@mamot.fr @iFixit

              That's one of the strangest parts of all this, at least to me, if one customer wants an absolutely massive order that might tank the business if it doesn't get paid for, then they have to pay up front for it, doesn't it just make sense?

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              • rastilin@aus.socialR rastilin@aus.social

                @davbram @sawaba @pluralistic@mamot.fr @iFixit

                That's one of the strangest parts of all this, at least to me, if one customer wants an absolutely massive order that might tank the business if it doesn't get paid for, then they have to pay up front for it, doesn't it just make sense?

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                @rastilin @sawaba @iFixit
                I suspect they'll never actually ship the RAM, they'll just add the invoice to their quarterly earnings report

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                • sawaba@infosec.exchangeS sawaba@infosec.exchange

                  The enshittification of computer repair is happening.

                  AI has amazingly managed to make repairable computers practically worthless.

                  The increase in memory and storage pricing is destroying the second-hand market for computing hardware and this makes me sad. I watched a video from someone that runs a repair shop, and this is what's happening:

                  The memory/storage alone is worth more than the rest of the computer, so people are stripping them out to sell separately.

                  The second hand market is now flooded with computers that have no memory or storage. Buying new memory or storage to put in these used computers is now more expensive than buying a new computer.

                  So we now suddenly have a giant e-waste problem PLUS a giant problem for repair shops that want to stay in business.

                  In the video, he was basically saying that they have to pivot to the only computers that folks aren't stripping RAM and storage out of - computers that have those things soldered on. The irony here is that repair shops now have to ignore the most repairable computers and focus on the least repairable computers instead.

                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6eiFyJMWgM

                  cc @pluralistic @iFixit

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                  #20

                  @sawaba @pluralistic @iFixit

                  This is very sad annoying, & frustrating.

                  For years I have been one of many who depend on 2nd hand devices, repaired & repurposed - esp.. laptops . To help other people & my self have access to decent computers (often as their first device)

                  Some have served me well - a Thinkpad X1, a X 220 , old Dell's , they more that did their job.

                  Suddenly such options such access will be more expensive or not available -

                  Apart from the gross environmental costs.

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                  • sawaba@infosec.exchangeS sawaba@infosec.exchange

                    @pluralistic @iFixit and it’s not even that computer repair was enshittified here - it’s that the sphere of AI enshittification influence has enveloped PC repair and destroyed its margins in a matter of months.

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                    #21

                    @sawaba @pluralistic @iFixit

                    You're making me think of this (long) video about AI accelerating existing problems.

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Km2bn0HvUwg

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                    • sawaba@infosec.exchangeS sawaba@infosec.exchange

                      The enshittification of computer repair is happening.

                      AI has amazingly managed to make repairable computers practically worthless.

                      The increase in memory and storage pricing is destroying the second-hand market for computing hardware and this makes me sad. I watched a video from someone that runs a repair shop, and this is what's happening:

                      The memory/storage alone is worth more than the rest of the computer, so people are stripping them out to sell separately.

                      The second hand market is now flooded with computers that have no memory or storage. Buying new memory or storage to put in these used computers is now more expensive than buying a new computer.

                      So we now suddenly have a giant e-waste problem PLUS a giant problem for repair shops that want to stay in business.

                      In the video, he was basically saying that they have to pivot to the only computers that folks aren't stripping RAM and storage out of - computers that have those things soldered on. The irony here is that repair shops now have to ignore the most repairable computers and focus on the least repairable computers instead.

                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6eiFyJMWgM

                      cc @pluralistic @iFixit

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                      #22

                      @sawaba @pluralistic @iFixit

                      RAM theft is going to become an issue again for companies, isn't it?

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