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There is a petition on the UK Parliament website to legally recognise nonbinary as a gender – which would include an X marker on UK passports for nonbinary people.

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  • anguadelphine@mk.absturztau.beA anguadelphine@mk.absturztau.be

    @syhr@social.coop

    Now 392, Sharkey fork of Misskey here BTW.

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    #49

    @AnguaDelphine Have changed to "the Fediverse"! 🦊

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    • syhr@social.coopS syhr@social.coop

      @AnguaDelphine Have changed to "the Fediverse"! 🦊

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      #50

      @syhr@social.coop

      Cool. Surprised so few have signed. I boosted your original so hopefully some more people will sign.

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      • anguadelphine@mk.absturztau.beA anguadelphine@mk.absturztau.be

        @syhr@social.coop

        Cool. Surprised so few have signed. I boosted your original so hopefully some more people will sign.

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        #51

        @AnguaDelphine 💚

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        • syhr@social.coopS syhr@social.coop

          @navi Fixed! 🦊

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          #52

          @syhr yay!

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          • syhr@social.coopS syhr@social.coop

            @sunflowerinrain Completely agree. My preferred option would be to scrap gender markers on passports. But the legal protections are still important.

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            #53

            @syhr @sunflowerinrain

            So, unfortunately, there's a treaty for passport standardisation which requires gender information: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machine-readable_passport

            Getting an X in the UK is easier than changing the treaty is easier than getting rid of borders.

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            • syhr@social.coopS syhr@social.coop

              @mynameistillian @radioclash As we all should be 😊

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              #54

              @syhr @mynameistillian @radioclash

              Updating one's documentation is always a tradeoff. For many trans people, trying to travel on an unupdated passport means enduring a _lot_ of harassment and potentially being denied entry or exit (and thus getting stranded overseas).

              The X option will make travel easier for some people and may also be a way that some cis people might express solidarity.

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              • celesteh@hachyderm.ioC celesteh@hachyderm.io

                @syhr @sunflowerinrain

                So, unfortunately, there's a treaty for passport standardisation which requires gender information: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machine-readable_passport

                Getting an X in the UK is easier than changing the treaty is easier than getting rid of borders.

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                #55

                @celesteh @sunflowerinrain Good to know!

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                • syhr@social.coopS syhr@social.coop

                  @sunflowerinrain Completely agree. My preferred option would be to scrap gender markers on passports. But the legal protections are still important.

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                  #56

                  @syhr @sunflowerinrain gender on ID saves lives. medical treatment is very different between male and female, and in an emergency having that information could easily be the difference between life and death. they probably should list your blood-type too.

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                  • syhr@social.coopS syhr@social.coop

                    There is a petition on the UK Parliament website to legally recognise nonbinary as a gender – which would include an X marker on UK passports for nonbinary people.

                    The deadline to sign is March 2026 and at the time of writing only 213 people have signed.

                    Let's show them the power of the Fediverse. At 100,000 signatures, the petition will be debated in Parliament.

                    Sign 👇

                    https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/738780

                    #NonBinary #Enby #Trans #Transgender #Queer #LGBTQ #LGBT #UK #UKMastodon #Fediverse

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                    #57

                    @syhr Why are people fighting for this instead of to eliminate gender markers? The only reason to put a gender marker on anyone's document is to give authorities a license to discriminate.

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                    • pedestrianerror@towns.gayP pedestrianerror@towns.gay

                      @syhr Why are people fighting for this instead of to eliminate gender markers? The only reason to put a gender marker on anyone's document is to give authorities a license to discriminate.

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                      #58

                      @PedestrianError There's been some discussion about that under the toot 🙂

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                      • mynameistillian@plush.cityM mynameistillian@plush.city

                        @syhr very on the fence about this. recognizing it is good, but maybe they shouldn't force people to put their gender marker in passports, thus indirectly making an entire data directory of nonbinary people in the uk...this can only get ugly

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                        #59

                        @mynameistillian@plush.city @syhr@social.coop According to the ICAO standard, the sex field is mandatory but countries can just put X (or < in the MRZ, which is also the filler character) for unspecified:

                        Where an issuing State or organization does not want to identify the sex, the filler character (<) shall be used in
                        this field in the MRZ and an X in this field in the VIZ.

                        So there's nothing preventing them from effectively abolishing gender markers on passports by just putting X for everyone (which they should do)

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                        • syhr@social.coopS syhr@social.coop

                          There is a petition on the UK Parliament website to legally recognise nonbinary as a gender – which would include an X marker on UK passports for nonbinary people.

                          The deadline to sign is March 2026 and at the time of writing only 213 people have signed.

                          Let's show them the power of the Fediverse. At 100,000 signatures, the petition will be debated in Parliament.

                          Sign 👇

                          https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/738780

                          #NonBinary #Enby #Trans #Transgender #Queer #LGBTQ #LGBT #UK #UKMastodon #Fediverse

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                          #60

                          @syhr U.S. ally here. Wish I could sign.

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                          • noisytoot@berkeley.edu.plN noisytoot@berkeley.edu.pl

                            @mynameistillian@plush.city @syhr@social.coop According to the ICAO standard, the sex field is mandatory but countries can just put X (or < in the MRZ, which is also the filler character) for unspecified:

                            Where an issuing State or organization does not want to identify the sex, the filler character (<) shall be used in
                            this field in the MRZ and an X in this field in the VIZ.

                            So there's nothing preventing them from effectively abolishing gender markers on passports by just putting X for everyone (which they should do)

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                            #61

                            @noisytoot @mynameistillian This is the way

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                            • anneguisinherba@universeodon.comA anneguisinherba@universeodon.com

                              @syhr U.S. ally here. Wish I could sign.

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                              #62

                              @anneguisinherba 💚

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                              • celesteh@hachyderm.ioC celesteh@hachyderm.io

                                @syhr @sunflowerinrain

                                So, unfortunately, there's a treaty for passport standardisation which requires gender information: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machine-readable_passport

                                Getting an X in the UK is easier than changing the treaty is easier than getting rid of borders.

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                                #63

                                @celesteh technically, all listed formats support «unspecified» option for gender, either X or filler character <...

                                @syhr @sunflowerinrain

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                                • syhr@social.coopS syhr@social.coop

                                  There is a petition on the UK Parliament website to legally recognise nonbinary as a gender – which would include an X marker on UK passports for nonbinary people.

                                  The deadline to sign is March 2026 and at the time of writing only 213 people have signed.

                                  Let's show them the power of the Fediverse. At 100,000 signatures, the petition will be debated in Parliament.

                                  Sign 👇

                                  https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/738780

                                  #NonBinary #Enby #Trans #Transgender #Queer #LGBTQ #LGBT #UK #UKMastodon #Fediverse

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                                  #64

                                  @syhr maybe edit to add that one has to be a British citizen or resident in Britain? I wish it all the success in the world, but it is disappointing to click just to see that one can’t sign

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                                  • starcross@mk.absturztau.beS starcross@mk.absturztau.be

                                    @syhr@social.coop question, is there anything stopping me from saying I'm british and putting in some random british postcode

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                                    #65

                                    @Starcross @syhr Yes, it'll be cross-referenced against the Electoral Register. I don't imagine you'd be likely to fool them, to be honest.

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                                    • alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.workA alexia@shrimp.starlightnet.work
                                      @columbduffy @mynameistillian @syhr

                                      from what I am reading this wouldn't necessarily mean you are
                                      required to update the gender-marker if you identify with this; Many of us will still just have the gender-marker that was assigned at birth

                                      at least, if it's anything like how Germany and others implemented it
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                                      #66

                                      @alexia @mynameistillian @columbduffy @syhr I'd guess that too. This is the current process that the Home Office use when issuing a passport to a person ("customer"). Since there is no non-binary option for a Gender Recognition Certificate, a British person applying for a passport for the very first time must use the gender that they were assigned at birth.

                                      Ask the customer to tell us what their current gender (male or female) is. This
                                      will be either their gender:

                                      • they were assigned at birth
                                      • in their last British passport
                                      • that was recognised by a Gender Recognition Certificate
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                                      • columbduffy@mastodon.ieC columbduffy@mastodon.ie

                                        @mynameistillian @syhr far point. I didn’t consider how passports are used for travel to potentially unsafe destinations in this context.

                                        Still, it’d be good to provide the choice.

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                                        #67

                                        @columbduffy @mynameistillian @syhr The UK Home Office will already issue a second passport to British citizens who are deemed at particular risk for traveling to a certain country, or who would be prevented from entering a certain country with their current passport (for instance those who need to travel to Israel despite having already visited Iran).

                                        The UK adopting enbyphobic legislation is a genuinely plausible eventuality, and in such a case, being on the record as non-binary would be dangerous. But if the UK doesn't become actively hostile to non-binary people and the UK starts to allow a non-binary gender marker on new passports, I'm sure they would issue secondary passports (with a binary gender marker) for those people just as with any other group facing difficulty traveling.

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                                        • radioclash@retro.pizzaR radioclash@retro.pizza

                                          @mynameistillian @syhr it's not mandatory like in Germany, or indeed the US when they had it. So you can choose not have an X marker.

                                          So not sure where 'forcing' comes from?

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                                          #68

                                          @radioclash @mynameistillian @syhr So you can get a passport without any gender marker in the UK? If it's a choice, roughly what percent of people (of all genders, cis and trans) choose to display a gender on their passport?

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