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Today I’m trying the fastest Berlin - Nuits-sous-Ravières you can do, changing only in Strasbourg and Dijon

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  • andres@nrw.socialA andres@nrw.social

    @jon I can remember a Situation where two older couples (around 60) were partying in the quiet area. Somebody was complaining about them. They asked me: "That wasn't to loud?" My answer was, that they were too loud.
    I know that their question implied that I simply agree with them, they tried to get an opinion from someone who just agrees with them-but not with me. I hate loud environment- I use to work in trains.
    So it is a good thing to set limits at the beginning.

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    #20

    @andreS Exactly. And I’m the best person to set these limits - I’m a tall decisive multi lingual man and hence least likely to get ignored (I can put my privilege to good use)

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    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

      This an interesting case

      I can re-route via Paris personally as I’m on Interrail

      Were I NOT on Interrail I‘d have to rely on AJC that requires *the same route* as original tickets

      But that’d mean compulsory reservation trains that might be full, hence cannot be taken…

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      #21

      Siemens builds good trains

      (Sure they’re not always perfect, but they’re never dreadful. Siemens would never build a Régiolis.)

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      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

        Why am I confident I’ll get to Nuits sous Ravières even if I miss my connection in Strasbourg?

        Because I can go via Paris instead - which is staying on the train I am on

        Yes, I don’t have a reservation for it. But it’s always easier to persuade a train manager to let you stay on than get on a train you’re not strictly allowed to take

        And TERs I can take on Interrail anyway

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        #22

        @jon

        Do you know the delay-statistics for this ICE?

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        • knud@mastodon.socialK knud@mastodon.social

          @jon

          Do you know the delay-statistics for this ICE?

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          #23

          @knud yeah. Not good! https://www.zugfinder.net/en/train-ICE_9590

          But I don’t have much to lose trying it 😀

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          • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

            @ajinkyapdahale Hmm, also tricky. I then leave a seat empty Paris-Strasbourg if the train does run on time! So I’m reluctant to do that. But there’s nothing to stop me doing that on Interrail indeed - Berlin-Strasbourg and Berlin-Paris seat reservations are the same price.

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            #24

            @jon It would feel bad indeed, but a better insurance against noncooperative conductors.

            Also, it would replace a possible berlin-strassbourg + strassbourg-dijon reservation. I wasn't able to get a "seat only" quote on the DB app for this route, but for some other routes the reservation was 5.50€ regardless of whether it's one train or 3.

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            • ajinkyapdahale@mstdn.socialA ajinkyapdahale@mstdn.social

              @jon It would feel bad indeed, but a better insurance against noncooperative conductors.

              Also, it would replace a possible berlin-strassbourg + strassbourg-dijon reservation. I wasn't able to get a "seat only" quote on the DB app for this route, but for some other routes the reservation was 5.50€ regardless of whether it's one train or 3.

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              #25

              @ajinkyapdahale Even getting prices for Interrail seat reservations is a pain. I have Berlin-Strasbourg with DB Passzuschlag and Strasbourg-Dijon TGV reservation booked with Rail Europe

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              • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                @ajinkyapdahale Even getting prices for Interrail seat reservations is a pain. I have Berlin-Strasbourg with DB Passzuschlag and Strasbourg-Dijon TGV reservation booked with Rail Europe

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                #26

                @jon Is "DB Passzuschlag" a website? Rail europe (or probably Trainline) didn't accept my Indian card once, so that's an additional drama (especially when I've heard of visas being rejected for not producing internal travel tickets).

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                • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                  @ajinkyapdahale Hmm, also tricky. I then leave a seat empty Paris-Strasbourg if the train does run on time! So I’m reluctant to do that. But there’s nothing to stop me doing that on Interrail indeed - Berlin-Strasbourg and Berlin-Paris seat reservations are the same price.

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                  #27

                  @jon out of curiosity could you share that number? In my experience the cheapest early bird tickets are just about 10-20% over just the reservation, so for my upcoming trip I ended up canceling an eurail pass and booking a la carte.

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                  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                    Siemens builds good trains

                    (Sure they’re not always perfect, but they’re never dreadful. Siemens would never build a Régiolis.)

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                    #28

                    Thinking further about this re-routing issue: my favoured re-routing if I need it (via Paris) is actually what would make most sense for SNCF as well (no trying to find space for me on another TGV)

                    But the rule that applies here - AJC - states precisely the opposite

                    I wonder how you could better allow “any suitable route” rather than same route?

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                    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                      Siemens builds good trains

                      (Sure they’re not always perfect, but they’re never dreadful. Siemens would never build a Régiolis.)

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                      #29

                      @jon A single trip from Liège to Luxembourg in a Siemens Desiro ML can change this statement 😅

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                      • ajinkyapdahale@mstdn.socialA ajinkyapdahale@mstdn.social

                        @jon out of curiosity could you share that number? In my experience the cheapest early bird tickets are just about 10-20% over just the reservation, so for my upcoming trip I ended up canceling an eurail pass and booking a la carte.

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                        #30

                        @ajinkyapdahale €19 for Berlin-Strasbourg and €10 for Strasbourg-Dijon. But the cheapest regular ticket I could find for today was c. €150, so Interrail made sense

                        Passzuschlag is a special search on DB’s website

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                        • smveerman@zug.networkS smveerman@zug.network

                          @jon A single trip from Liège to Luxembourg in a Siemens Desiro ML can change this statement 😅

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                          @smveerman ah. The interior is crap. But that’s SNCB’s fault not Siemens’s fault. Desiro ML in Austria is fine.

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                          • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                            Thinking further about this re-routing issue: my favoured re-routing if I need it (via Paris) is actually what would make most sense for SNCF as well (no trying to find space for me on another TGV)

                            But the rule that applies here - AJC - states precisely the opposite

                            I wonder how you could better allow “any suitable route” rather than same route?

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                            #32

                            Also on the Siemens builds good trains point

                            Desiro ML for SNCB is horrid - because SNCB ordered a terrible interior. Desiro ML for ÖBB is fine

                            Similarly a DB ICE 407 has a nicer interior but same engineering as a Eurostar e320

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                            • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                              @smveerman ah. The interior is crap. But that’s SNCB’s fault not Siemens’s fault. Desiro ML in Austria is fine.

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                              #33

                              @jon It's the default interior from Siemens, surely that should be good enough 🤷‍♀️

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                              • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                @ajinkyapdahale €19 for Berlin-Strasbourg and €10 for Strasbourg-Dijon. But the cheapest regular ticket I could find for today was c. €150, so Interrail made sense

                                Passzuschlag is a special search on DB’s website

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                                #34

                                @jon On day of, of course. My particular bookings were Oct-Nov when the new timetable opened.

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                                • smveerman@zug.networkS smveerman@zug.network

                                  @jon It's the default interior from Siemens, surely that should be good enough 🤷‍♀️

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                                  #35

                                  @smveerman for a S-Bahn. I don’t think even Siemens would suggest sitting in that for 3 hours!

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                                  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                    @smveerman for a S-Bahn. I don’t think even Siemens would suggest sitting in that for 3 hours!

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                                    #36

                                    @jon It's also being used on the Mittelrheinbahn Köln - Koblenz - Mainz, and that does attract quite a lot of passengers sitting in it for more than an hour.

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                                    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                      Thinking further about this re-routing issue: my favoured re-routing if I need it (via Paris) is actually what would make most sense for SNCF as well (no trying to find space for me on another TGV)

                                      But the rule that applies here - AJC - states precisely the opposite

                                      I wonder how you could better allow “any suitable route” rather than same route?

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                                      #37

                                      @jon I would posit that the way you do this is to just allow any route, then accept that you can minimise the disruption this causes by holding trains when needed for connections and/or having a Frankreichtakt.

                                      Yes, I know this would involve SNCF. Stop laughing up the back.

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                                      • sarahas2@mastodon.scotS sarahas2@mastodon.scot

                                        @jon I would posit that the way you do this is to just allow any route, then accept that you can minimise the disruption this causes by holding trains when needed for connections and/or having a Frankreichtakt.

                                        Yes, I know this would involve SNCF. Stop laughing up the back.

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                                        #38

                                        @SarahAS2 Right. Exactly. 😀

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                                        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                          Thinking further about this re-routing issue: my favoured re-routing if I need it (via Paris) is actually what would make most sense for SNCF as well (no trying to find space for me on another TGV)

                                          But the rule that applies here - AJC - states precisely the opposite

                                          I wonder how you could better allow “any suitable route” rather than same route?

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                                          #39

                                          @jon I guess DB's "Zugbindung aufgehoben" doesn't work well with mandatory reservation.
                                          For interrailers, the easy but ugly solution would be to book all the way to Paris "just in case". But that's potentially an empty seat noone else can use.

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