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I can’t remember where I saw it, but I feel like today is a good time to revisit the concept of “Vegan + bacon”.

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  • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online

    I can’t remember where I saw it, but I feel like today is a good time to revisit the concept of “Vegan + bacon”.

    People often avoid making small positive changes because they get caught up in trying to go all the way. For example, “I could never go vegan. I love bacon too much”.

    So then go vegan plus bacon. Or vegetarian plus bacon. Or just switch to oat milk and eat more vegetables. Whatever small change you can make is good

    zombiecide@polyglot.cityZ This user is from outside of this forum
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    #68

    @danirabbit what's wrong with saying plant based or flexitarian?

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    • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online

      I can’t remember where I saw it, but I feel like today is a good time to revisit the concept of “Vegan + bacon”.

      People often avoid making small positive changes because they get caught up in trying to go all the way. For example, “I could never go vegan. I love bacon too much”.

      So then go vegan plus bacon. Or vegetarian plus bacon. Or just switch to oat milk and eat more vegetables. Whatever small change you can make is good

      randulo@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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      #69

      @danirabbit What a wonderful, thoughtful thread! Kudos, everyone.

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      • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online

        Maybe you can’t buy everything local. What one thing can you start buying local? Can you switch from Starbucks to the local coffee shop? Can you switch from Petco to the local pet feed store? Can you switch from Dominoes to a local pizza place?

        Maybe you can’t completely de-Google or de-Apple or de-Amazon your life. Can you switch one thing? Can you use DuckDuckGo? Move your passwords to Bitwarden? Open a Fastmail account?

        mimavox@zirk.usM This user is from outside of this forum
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        #70

        @danirabbit Kagi is the absolute best search engine available, if you're willing to pay a small fee. The idea is that if you pay for your search engine, they will not have to fund it with ads or sponsored content: https://kagi.com

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        • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online

          I can’t remember where I saw it, but I feel like today is a good time to revisit the concept of “Vegan + bacon”.

          People often avoid making small positive changes because they get caught up in trying to go all the way. For example, “I could never go vegan. I love bacon too much”.

          So then go vegan plus bacon. Or vegetarian plus bacon. Or just switch to oat milk and eat more vegetables. Whatever small change you can make is good

          hiljaisuus@piipitin.fiH This user is from outside of this forum
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          #71

          @danirabbit This is actually exactly what I did. Bacon was the last meat product I dropped from my diet. After a while it became easy to let it go, too.

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          • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online

            I can’t remember where I saw it, but I feel like today is a good time to revisit the concept of “Vegan + bacon”.

            People often avoid making small positive changes because they get caught up in trying to go all the way. For example, “I could never go vegan. I love bacon too much”.

            So then go vegan plus bacon. Or vegetarian plus bacon. Or just switch to oat milk and eat more vegetables. Whatever small change you can make is good

            rozeboosje@masto.aiR This user is from outside of this forum
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            #72

            @danirabbit right on. A good example is my attempt to de-Meta. I removed Fecesbook, Instagram, Messenger. But I can't get rid of WhatsApp. There are family groups, friend groups and work groups on WhatsApp and the momentum is not yet there for them to all move to non Meta alternatives. Especially family groups with all the elderly members who already struggled to learn WhatsApp as "The New Thing To Use". It's too much to ask them to do it again 😒

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            • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online

              Maybe you can’t buy everything local. What one thing can you start buying local? Can you switch from Starbucks to the local coffee shop? Can you switch from Petco to the local pet feed store? Can you switch from Dominoes to a local pizza place?

              Maybe you can’t completely de-Google or de-Apple or de-Amazon your life. Can you switch one thing? Can you use DuckDuckGo? Move your passwords to Bitwarden? Open a Fastmail account?

              jbqueru@floss.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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              #73

              @danirabbit The key, indeed, is to change bit by bit. Change is hard. Getting used to the notion of change is hard. So, practice, practice, practice, start with a few small bits until they become habits, and then do a little more, not so much that it becomes overwhelming. And, sometimes, you'll even be positively surprised.

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              • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online

                I can’t remember where I saw it, but I feel like today is a good time to revisit the concept of “Vegan + bacon”.

                People often avoid making small positive changes because they get caught up in trying to go all the way. For example, “I could never go vegan. I love bacon too much”.

                So then go vegan plus bacon. Or vegetarian plus bacon. Or just switch to oat milk and eat more vegetables. Whatever small change you can make is good

                jetlagjen@gts.phillipsuk.orgJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                #74

                @danirabbit I'm flexitarian for primarily environmental reasons.

                I have been known to order a veggie all day breakfast plus black pudding. I really love black pudding, it's full of haem iron, and it's essentially a waste product.

                I refuse to feel guilty for the meat, plastic and super-processed food that comes in my weekly shop. It's through a food waste scheme that is also incredibly helpful for our household spoons and money budgets. This week included several pounds of bacon ends near their use-by date. Some has been slow cooked, some has been diced and frozen, the fatty bits were rendered and used to make potato wedges. All of it would have been binned if not shared through the scheme.

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                • opticacia@kolektiva.socialO opticacia@kolektiva.social

                  @danirabbit
                  I don't actually hate this but it's just reinventing the idea of vegetarianism.

                  & maybe that does need some rejuvinating & maybe that'll do some good in the world, still it's really not veganism.

                  I don't think it's cool to benefit from the moral associations of veganism without the hard work (being an animal use abolitionist).

                  I guess vegetarianism is kinda lame nowadays (now we say plant-based or plant forward or 'vegan'), & part of that is because veganism makes it look obsolete, but you can't just take the name without doing the work.

                  mirjamsterdam@mastodon.greenM This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #75

                  @Opticacia @danirabbit OK, but who says they’re trying to benefit from any moral associations?

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                  • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online

                    I can’t remember where I saw it, but I feel like today is a good time to revisit the concept of “Vegan + bacon”.

                    People often avoid making small positive changes because they get caught up in trying to go all the way. For example, “I could never go vegan. I love bacon too much”.

                    So then go vegan plus bacon. Or vegetarian plus bacon. Or just switch to oat milk and eat more vegetables. Whatever small change you can make is good

                    hanscees@ieji.deH This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #76

                    @danirabbit I wholeheartedly agree. Many shades of grey are ok

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                    • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online

                      I can’t remember where I saw it, but I feel like today is a good time to revisit the concept of “Vegan + bacon”.

                      People often avoid making small positive changes because they get caught up in trying to go all the way. For example, “I could never go vegan. I love bacon too much”.

                      So then go vegan plus bacon. Or vegetarian plus bacon. Or just switch to oat milk and eat more vegetables. Whatever small change you can make is good

                      mark_scott@mastodonapp.ukM This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #77

                      @danirabbit The trope about making perfect the enemy of the good aligns with this

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                      • argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.orgA argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.org

                        @danirabbit

                        It's a terrible shame that synthetic meat seems to have fizzled out. It would've solved a lot of problems.

                        bencurthoys@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #78

                        @argv_minus_one @danirabbit well the problem is that synthetic meat isn't 100% completely perfect with zero ethical or environmental or taste or texture issues, so it's basically a complete waste of time.

                        /sarcasm for Poes Law.

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                        • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online

                          I can’t remember where I saw it, but I feel like today is a good time to revisit the concept of “Vegan + bacon”.

                          People often avoid making small positive changes because they get caught up in trying to go all the way. For example, “I could never go vegan. I love bacon too much”.

                          So then go vegan plus bacon. Or vegetarian plus bacon. Or just switch to oat milk and eat more vegetables. Whatever small change you can make is good

                          wildeng@ruby.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #79

                          @danirabbit this a smart approach and it's what we're doing or at least trying to do at home. We cook from scratch every day, use the public transport or walk and use the car only when is strictly necessary. I do like vegan dishes but I do like cheese too. My sister is vegan and her husband is not, living together is possible 😉

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                          • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online

                            I can’t remember where I saw it, but I feel like today is a good time to revisit the concept of “Vegan + bacon”.

                            People often avoid making small positive changes because they get caught up in trying to go all the way. For example, “I could never go vegan. I love bacon too much”.

                            So then go vegan plus bacon. Or vegetarian plus bacon. Or just switch to oat milk and eat more vegetables. Whatever small change you can make is good

                            backfromthedud@mas.toB This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #80

                            @danirabbit I've only been buying Oat Milk for 6 years, and before that it was Rice milk (what happened to that??), and before that I was 20 years on Skimmed. Now, cows' milk on my cornflakes tastes horrible!

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                            • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online

                              Maybe you can’t buy everything local. What one thing can you start buying local? Can you switch from Starbucks to the local coffee shop? Can you switch from Petco to the local pet feed store? Can you switch from Dominoes to a local pizza place?

                              Maybe you can’t completely de-Google or de-Apple or de-Amazon your life. Can you switch one thing? Can you use DuckDuckGo? Move your passwords to Bitwarden? Open a Fastmail account?

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                              #81

                              @danirabbit
                              thank you for putting into words what has been in my mind for a long time.

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                              • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online

                                I can’t remember where I saw it, but I feel like today is a good time to revisit the concept of “Vegan + bacon”.

                                People often avoid making small positive changes because they get caught up in trying to go all the way. For example, “I could never go vegan. I love bacon too much”.

                                So then go vegan plus bacon. Or vegetarian plus bacon. Or just switch to oat milk and eat more vegetables. Whatever small change you can make is good

                                alethenorio@fosstodon.orgA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #82

                                @danirabbit I actually tend to order plant based burgers with bacon in it. It is a great way to lower your meat consumption while enjoying that tasty tasty bacon

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                                • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online

                                  I can’t remember where I saw it, but I feel like today is a good time to revisit the concept of “Vegan + bacon”.

                                  People often avoid making small positive changes because they get caught up in trying to go all the way. For example, “I could never go vegan. I love bacon too much”.

                                  So then go vegan plus bacon. Or vegetarian plus bacon. Or just switch to oat milk and eat more vegetables. Whatever small change you can make is good

                                  afewbugs@social.coopA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #83

                                  @danirabbit the Fork Ranger app or Instagram feed is a good place to start for anyone looking to reduce the amount of animal products they consume without committing to going fully vegan

                                  https://www.forkranger.com/

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                                  • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online

                                    I can’t remember where I saw it, but I feel like today is a good time to revisit the concept of “Vegan + bacon”.

                                    People often avoid making small positive changes because they get caught up in trying to go all the way. For example, “I could never go vegan. I love bacon too much”.

                                    So then go vegan plus bacon. Or vegetarian plus bacon. Or just switch to oat milk and eat more vegetables. Whatever small change you can make is good

                                    coba@gruene.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #84

                                    @danirabbit this is some popular thread. And also goes in my line of being "accidentally vegan" or "vegan where it doesn't hurt"

                                    Like in a cake you usually don't need eggs, you could apple puree or vegan egg. For omelette keep your egg.

                                    That slice of cheese on a burger? Vegan cheddar is just fine.

                                    Some crumble in tomato sauce? Just add soya minced meat.

                                    And you are fine to mix and match to your taste. Just reducing animal product consumption will help.

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                                    • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online

                                      I can’t remember where I saw it, but I feel like today is a good time to revisit the concept of “Vegan + bacon”.

                                      People often avoid making small positive changes because they get caught up in trying to go all the way. For example, “I could never go vegan. I love bacon too much”.

                                      So then go vegan plus bacon. Or vegetarian plus bacon. Or just switch to oat milk and eat more vegetables. Whatever small change you can make is good

                                      dk@tldr.nettime.orgD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #85

                                      @danirabbit vegan + mussles is underated nutritionally

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                                      • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online

                                        Maybe you can’t buy everything local. What one thing can you start buying local? Can you switch from Starbucks to the local coffee shop? Can you switch from Petco to the local pet feed store? Can you switch from Dominoes to a local pizza place?

                                        Maybe you can’t completely de-Google or de-Apple or de-Amazon your life. Can you switch one thing? Can you use DuckDuckGo? Move your passwords to Bitwarden? Open a Fastmail account?

                                        slothrop@chaos.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #86

                                        @danirabbit People usually underestimate how much difference small, incremental changes make over time.

                                        If you get into the habit of preparing, say, 2 vegan meals per week, that's 100 vegan meals per year.

                                        Plus, once you've got the hang of it, adding a third vegan meal isn't so hard. Or sometimes a fourth one, maybe. And suddenly you're at 150 per year.

                                        It's the same for all the other good things. Doing a little, on a regular basis, just adds up, and opens further opportunities for change

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                                        • danirabbit@mastodon.onlineD danirabbit@mastodon.online

                                          I can’t remember where I saw it, but I feel like today is a good time to revisit the concept of “Vegan + bacon”.

                                          People often avoid making small positive changes because they get caught up in trying to go all the way. For example, “I could never go vegan. I love bacon too much”.

                                          So then go vegan plus bacon. Or vegetarian plus bacon. Or just switch to oat milk and eat more vegetables. Whatever small change you can make is good

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                                          dotmavriq@social.dotmavriq.life
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                                          #87
                                          @danirabbit
                                          This!
                                          My parents just follow my national resources guidelines for meat consumption (which by global standards is LOW), as in2-3 meals of meat per day or less than 1 hot dog per person per day type deal. So mlst meals are "humble" but delicious if done well.

                                          No need for the labels, no need for the flame wars. If you feel good from it and can stay happy like that then it's good for everyone on the planet.
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