Thank you to Steve Bannon for giving away the game:
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An election with only one allowed outcome is not an election.
This "election" is performative, to make people think they can still vote so they will accept all these measures. If they get away with it, it will be the last one. This performative election is the last faint chance to object to fascism, that is why they are spending so much - to render any opposition to the current administraton ineffective so that resistance will fail.
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@ricardoharvin Bullshit. If they really didn't, they wouldn't be pouring so much money and effort into making it harder to vote.
@dmitry *Ultimately*, they do not care because they mean to render all results moot, truth!
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They can't do the whole country, but they don't need to, they just need to do certain districts. This is about holding on to a razor majority in congress.
And you have to remember, states like Texas with Greg "the fucker" Abbott are going to be gleeful little helpers in making this happen.
I don't want to demoralize people from voting, but we have to be prepared for the real possibility of it being stolen.
@contrasocial @randahl
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Thank you to Steve Bannon for giving away the game:
Step 1: Show the people that ICE can kill anybody.
Step 2: Have ICE show up at polling stations in areas where people vote against Trump, so those neighborhoods do not go vote.
@randahl And turn this country back into Jim Crow mode. By banning minorities from voting.
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Thank you to Steve Bannon for giving away the game:
Step 1: Show the people that ICE can kill anybody.
Step 2: Have ICE show up at polling stations in areas where people vote against Trump, so those neighborhoods do not go vote.
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G gambajo@social.tchncs.de shared this topic
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@ricardoharvin Bullshit. If they really didn't, they wouldn't be pouring so much money and effort into making it harder to vote.
@dmitry @ricardoharvin If they only use one tactic to undermine the whole election, then people can point to it and say "see, if they hadn't done *that* then the election would have gone differently".
If they try ten different things, where no individual one on its own is sufficient to change the outcome, but any six would be - then any time discussion focuses on one tactic, they can deflect by saying "oh come now, any effect from that was too small to change the outcome anyway, get over it".
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The USA never were a democracy, although they made a pretty convincing cosplayer some of the time.
@juergen_hubert@mementomori.social Bis Trump angefangen hat RichterStellen zu besetzen, waren die USA ein Rechtsstaat. Jedenfalls für Leute mit Geld oder Krautquellding. @randahl@mastodon.social @energisch_@troet.cafe -
@randahl
ICE doesn't have that many people.Also, Minnesota had a special election with ICE oppressing them and scaring people from going out in public. They voted in spite of it.
https://www.the-downballot.com/p/minnesotans-just-showed-theyll-crawl
@katrinakatrinka@infosec.exchange You don't have to influence the voters, just the elected representatives. @randahl@mastodon.social -
@juergen_hubert@mementomori.social Bis Trump angefangen hat RichterStellen zu besetzen, waren die USA ein Rechtsstaat. Jedenfalls für Leute mit Geld oder Krautquellding. @randahl@mastodon.social @energisch_@troet.cafe
Aber die Fähigkeit zu wählen war nie ein Recht in den USA - nur ein Privileg.
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@katrinakatrinka@infosec.exchange You don't have to influence the voters, just the elected representatives. @randahl@mastodon.social
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@dmitry @ricardoharvin If they only use one tactic to undermine the whole election, then people can point to it and say "see, if they hadn't done *that* then the election would have gone differently".
If they try ten different things, where no individual one on its own is sufficient to change the outcome, but any six would be - then any time discussion focuses on one tactic, they can deflect by saying "oh come now, any effect from that was too small to change the outcome anyway, get over it".
@ricardoharvin @dragonfrog We had exactly this discourse after 2016.
https://circle.lt/post/20200403-money-for-people-with-minds-that-hate/
"Clinton received 3 million more votes than Trump, and lost the electoral college 0.23% in Michigan, 0.77% in Wisconsin, and 0.72% in Pennsylvania. Jill Stein pulled away more votes than that in each of these three states. The Comey letter has cost Clinton around 1% in the polls … voter suppression and the Russian troll farms … Take any one of these four factors away and Clinton likely would have won."
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@ricardoharvin @dragonfrog We had exactly this discourse after 2016.
https://circle.lt/post/20200403-money-for-people-with-minds-that-hate/
"Clinton received 3 million more votes than Trump, and lost the electoral college 0.23% in Michigan, 0.77% in Wisconsin, and 0.72% in Pennsylvania. Jill Stein pulled away more votes than that in each of these three states. The Comey letter has cost Clinton around 1% in the polls … voter suppression and the Russian troll farms … Take any one of these four factors away and Clinton likely would have won."
@ricardoharvin @dragonfrog The best way to counter all of that is to get more people to vote. All other paths lead to violence and much less certain outcomes.
That is why I always push back on the "voting don't matter" narrative. It will always matter, it will always be worth fighting for the right to vote.
