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If you wanted to send me a monetary tip for my excellent Mastodon posts, which platform would you prefer to use?

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  • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

    What if Mastodon had this button?

    (I am not involved in core development. This isn't an official proposal. I'm just noodling about with ideas. Don't shout at me in the comments or get weird.)

    tanepiper@tane.codesT This user is from outside of this forum
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    #142

    @Edent reminds me of the original goal of https://www.axate.com/ which provided APIs for micro transactions for news sites.

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    • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

      What if Mastodon had this button?

      (I am not involved in core development. This isn't an official proposal. I'm just noodling about with ideas. Don't shout at me in the comments or get weird.)

      nelhah@app.wafrn.netN This user is from outside of this forum
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      #143

      unless you have a magic way to bypass any payment processor fees then that proposal goes straight to trash, because with small amounts you just give money to paypal/credit card companies/stripe/whatever payment processor exists

      not to mention it would probably be a headache to setup for some admins

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      • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

        If you wanted to send me a monetary tip for my excellent Mastodon posts, which platform would you prefer to use?

        (Please don't be a dick in the replies as a muting often ofends.)

        dan@mastodon.durrans.comD This user is from outside of this forum
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        #144

        @Edent Credit card payment facilitated by something as easy as Apple Pay and as trusted as a UK or EU business. I wouldn't want some US bank or business screwing this up.

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        • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

          If you wanted to send me a monetary tip for my excellent Mastodon posts, which platform would you prefer to use?

          (Please don't be a dick in the replies as a muting often ofends.)

          jak2k@mastodontech.deJ This user is from outside of this forum
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          #145

          @Edent GNU Taler would be cool!

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          • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

            If you wanted to send me a monetary tip for my excellent Mastodon posts, which platform would you prefer to use?

            (Please don't be a dick in the replies as a muting often ofends.)

            dans@mastodon.me.ukD This user is from outside of this forum
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            #146

            @Edent With minimal effort, eg Google Wallet or via direct payment link / QR code to a UK/EU bank.

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            • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

              @floppy a standard for the button, or a standard payment system, or a standard back-end?

              All gets complex quickly!

              floppy@mastodon.me.ukF This user is from outside of this forum
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              #147

              @Edent it’s definitely a complex problem but we need to come up with a way to do it, I think.

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              • jak2k@mastodontech.deJ jak2k@mastodontech.de

                @Edent GNU Taler would be cool!

                edent@mastodon.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
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                #148

                @jak2k do you use Taler?

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                • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                  If you wanted to send me a monetary tip for my excellent Mastodon posts, which platform would you prefer to use?

                  (Please don't be a dick in the replies as a muting often ofends.)

                  jze@norden.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #149

                  @Edent
                  WERO https://wero-wallet.eu

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                  • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                    @duncanlock I don't know where you are in the world, but in the UK and Europe it is free to transfer a single penny to any account.

                    I use tap-to-pay on low value transactions all the time. I even bought a single apple from a greengrocer once!

                    davidgerard@circumstances.runD This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #150

                    @Edent @duncanlock Pretty sure there would be a merchant fee and the shop just ate it

                    tante@tldr.nettime.orgT steve@prattle.org.ukS 2 Antworten Letzte Antwort
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                    • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                      @Edent @duncanlock Pretty sure there would be a merchant fee and the shop just ate it

                      tante@tldr.nettime.orgT This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #151

                      @davidgerard @Edent @duncanlock yes. Using cards (even non-credit cards) costs the seller money.

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                      • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                        @davidgerard @Edent @duncanlock yes. Using cards (even non-credit cards) costs the seller money.

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                        #152

                        @davidgerard @duncanlock @tante
                        Not really. In the UK, I pay a fixed % for tap-to-pay card transactions.

                        SumUp charge as little as 0.99% whether you're charging £1 or £500. My corner shop prefers that I pay by card for a chocolate bar rather than a £20 note.

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                        • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                          @Edent @duncanlock Pretty sure there would be a merchant fee and the shop just ate it

                          steve@prattle.org.ukS This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #153

                          @davidgerard @Edent @duncanlock Yes, the shop will have paid the transaction fee for this and it will have been a fairly large proportion of the payment.

                          Not as large in the UK as in the USA, but still a flat fee per transaction plus a percentage of the payment amount.

                          The payment providers that offer simple percentage pricing (eg. Square at 1.75% and SumUp at 1.69%) are able to do so because they insist on a minimum transaction amount of £1.

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                          • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                            @davidgerard @duncanlock @tante
                            Not really. In the UK, I pay a fixed % for tap-to-pay card transactions.

                            SumUp charge as little as 0.99% whether you're charging £1 or £500. My corner shop prefers that I pay by card for a chocolate bar rather than a £20 note.

                            steve@prattle.org.ukS This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #154

                            @Edent @davidgerard @duncanlock @tante SumUp's minimum payment amount in the UK is £1.

                            Their fees are rounded to a whole number of pennies per transaction using Banker's rounding (Round Half to Even).

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                            • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                              If you wanted to send me a monetary tip for my excellent Mastodon posts, which platform would you prefer to use?

                              (Please don't be a dick in the replies as a muting often ofends.)

                              revk@toot.me.ukR This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #155

                              @Edent Monzo are not bad for this.

                              e.g. https://pay.revk.uk

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                              • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                                What if Mastodon had this button?

                                (I am not involved in core development. This isn't an official proposal. I'm just noodling about with ideas. Don't shout at me in the comments or get weird.)

                                sean@mastodon.me.ukS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                sean@mastodon.me.uk
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                                #156

                                @Edent the internet would be a very different place if we could replace ads with micropayments

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                                • revk@toot.me.ukR revk@toot.me.uk

                                  @Edent Monzo are not bad for this.

                                  e.g. https://pay.revk.uk

                                  dan@mastodon.durrans.comD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #157

                                  @revk @Edent Does this count as a messaging service? For a fee I can send you a message.

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                                  • dan@mastodon.durrans.comD dan@mastodon.durrans.com

                                    @revk @Edent Does this count as a messaging service? For a fee I can send you a message.

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                                    #158

                                    @dan @Edent When the whole OSA crap came in, this was pondered... I do not know.

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                                    • revk@toot.me.ukR revk@toot.me.uk

                                      @dan @Edent When the whole OSA crap came in, this was pondered... I do not know.

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                                      #159

                                      @revk @Edent I am not spending £1 per message to find out.

                                      revk@toot.me.ukR edent@mastodon.socialE dm_ronin@mstdn.socialD 3 Antworten Letzte Antwort
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                                      • steve@prattle.org.ukS steve@prattle.org.uk

                                        @Edent @davidgerard @duncanlock @tante SumUp's minimum payment amount in the UK is £1.

                                        Their fees are rounded to a whole number of pennies per transaction using Banker's rounding (Round Half to Even).

                                        edent@mastodon.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #160

                                        @davidgerard @duncanlock @tante @steve ah, I misread their developer documentation.
                                        I don't know which merchant my greengrocer uses, but they're able to charge less than a quid.

                                        Of course, that's card-present. Looks like online payments still have a fixed fee overhead.

                                        Thanks!

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                                        • dan@mastodon.durrans.comD dan@mastodon.durrans.com

                                          @revk @Edent I am not spending £1 per message to find out.

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                                          #161

                                          @dan @Edent By, for example, monzo to monzo, allows utf8 messages even on 1p transaction, and no fee.

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