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  3. I *CANNOT WAIT* until we see this and other strings hit all these “Agentic SOC" environments.

I *CANNOT WAIT* until we see this and other strings hit all these “Agentic SOC" environments.

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  • nopatience@swecyb.comN nopatience@swecyb.com

    @dch @hrbrmstr

    Oh... how EVIL to put it as a web server header? Would they process headers as agents?

    Perhaps worth testing 🙂

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    #6

    @nopatience I can neither confirm nor deny if this works but returning it in Anubis and iocaine responses is my current jam. Time to poison the source of the well. @hrbrmstr

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    • dch@bsd.networkD dch@bsd.network

      @nopatience I can neither confirm nor deny if this works but returning it in Anubis and iocaine responses is my current jam. Time to poison the source of the well. @hrbrmstr

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      #7

      @dch @hrbrmstr I tried adding it as a server header in nginx, sent Claude Opus that way... but didn't stop it. So my immediate thoughts is that well, it needs to be more closely embedded into contents of webpages rather than "too far down the stack".

      But I'll keep it there just for laughs.

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      • nopatience@swecyb.comN nopatience@swecyb.com

        @dch @hrbrmstr I tried adding it as a server header in nginx, sent Claude Opus that way... but didn't stop it. So my immediate thoughts is that well, it needs to be more closely embedded into contents of webpages rather than "too far down the stack".

        But I'll keep it there just for laughs.

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        #8

        @nopatience @dch oh, aye. they have a system that does the fetching and then turns the content into markdown for processing. headers aren't going to get caught in the machine unless someone is asking for a header analysis.

        and, they use a proxy (which claude told me about when it said it could not get to infosec.exchange via their infra) so they will likely be filtering these strings out at that central point.

        thankfully that's not the only way those strings can get in tho.

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        • hrbrmstr@mastodon.socialH hrbrmstr@mastodon.social

          I *CANNOT WAIT* until we see this and other strings hit all these “Agentic SOC" environments.

          Likely gonna cause a whole bunch of orgs to go blind (telemetry-wise) for just enough time for attackers to do what they need to do. https://infosec.exchange/@morattisec/115929249640927958

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          #9

          BASE64 THESE EVERYWHERE

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          • hrbrmstr@mastodon.socialH hrbrmstr@mastodon.social

            BASE64 THESE EVERYWHERE

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            #10

            ZOMGOSH I HOPED THIS WOULD WORK the mt agamenticus img is what i asked it to describe)

            numb_comfortably@hachyderm.ioN stellar@mk.absturztau.beS 2 Antworten Letzte Antwort
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            • hrbrmstr@mastodon.socialH hrbrmstr@mastodon.social

              @nopatience @dch oh, aye. they have a system that does the fetching and then turns the content into markdown for processing. headers aren't going to get caught in the machine unless someone is asking for a header analysis.

              and, they use a proxy (which claude told me about when it said it could not get to infosec.exchange via their infra) so they will likely be filtering these strings out at that central point.

              thankfully that's not the only way those strings can get in tho.

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              #11

              @hrbrmstr AI is great at looking for patterns, anything from rot13 to base64 and variants in between will make it through a first cleaning stage @nopatience

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              • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

                @hrbrmstr thinking about popping it in my email sig

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                #12

                @hrbrmstr @neurovagrant linkedin

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                • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                  @hrbrmstr @neurovagrant linkedin

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                  #13

                  @Viss @hrbrmstr "and this is why we've screamed about sanitizing your inputs for decades."

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                  • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

                    @Viss @hrbrmstr "and this is why we've screamed about sanitizing your inputs for decades."

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                    #14

                    @hrbrmstr @neurovagrant we should stop screaming

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                    • viss@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #15

                      @hrbrmstr @darfplatypus

                      https://mastodon.social/@Viss/115940022677167824

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                      • viss@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #16

                        @hrbrmstr @cR0w stuff it into exif fields too

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                        • viss@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #17

                          @hrbrmstr @darfplatypus i dont even know what those are

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                          • viss@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #18

                            @hrbrmstr @cR0w also there was a site i saw last week that let you stuff arbitrary text into email b64 encoding fields for stuff like images, i bet it would work well there too

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                            • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                              @hrbrmstr @cR0w also there was a site i saw last week that let you stuff arbitrary text into email b64 encoding fields for stuff like images, i bet it would work well there too

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                              #19

                              @Viss @hrbrmstr @cR0w

                              im drooling right now

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                              • cr0w@infosec.exchangeC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #20

                                @hotsoup @kajer @Viss @hrbrmstr

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                                • cr0w@infosec.exchangeC cr0w@infosec.exchange

                                  @hotsoup @kajer @Viss @hrbrmstr

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                                  #21

                                  @hotsoup @kajer @hrbrmstr @cR0w 100% effective

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                                  • alex02@elonsucks.orgA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #22

                                    @cR0w @Viss @hotsoup @kajer @hrbrmstr just get neon paper and slap it on there. idk.

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                                    • viss@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #23

                                      @hotsoup @kajer @hrbrmstr @cR0w now the real delicious question is: do all the other frontier models also have killstrings, and what are they?

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                                      • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                                        @hotsoup @kajer @hrbrmstr @cR0w now the real delicious question is: do all the other frontier models also have killstrings, and what are they?

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                                        #24

                                        @Viss @hotsoup @kajer @hrbrmstr @cR0w

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                                        • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                                          @hotsoup @kajer @hrbrmstr @cR0w now the real delicious question is: do all the other frontier models also have killstrings, and what are they?

                                          catsalad@infosec.exchangeC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #25

                                          @Viss @hotsoup @kajer @hrbrmstr @cR0w Oh man, I freaking HOPE so!!

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