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Words that came out of my mouth just now: "Open Source is not a magic wand that allows you to not spend money on software development."

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  • torgo@mastodon.socialT torgo@mastodon.social

    Words that came out of my mouth just now: "Open Source is not a magic wand that allows you to not spend money on software development."

    zkat@toot.catZ This user is from outside of this forum
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    #2

    @torgo I mean it kinda is 🙂 🙂 🙂

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    • torgo@mastodon.socialT torgo@mastodon.social

      Words that came out of my mouth just now: "Open Source is not a magic wand that allows you to not spend money on software development."

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      #3

      @torgo Almost 15 yrs ago, I was in my 2nd ever dev job and my desk was on the other side of a cubicle wall from a manager who talked WAY too loud every single day. He said multiple times "I don't care if it is open source or closed source. If we aren't paying someone for the rights to use a piece of code and someone sues us for using it, we don't have someone to sue to make us whole." Open Source is supposed to be a "a rising tide lifts all boats" thing but it's become a source of easy freebies.

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      • torgo@mastodon.socialT torgo@mastodon.social

        Words that came out of my mouth just now: "Open Source is not a magic wand that allows you to not spend money on software development."

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        #4

        @torgo Let's change the phrasing when you are not a developer yourself: It allows you to spend money on a small developer if you love the product and want to support the project instead of forcing you into a subscription of some BS product.

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        • torgo@mastodon.socialT torgo@mastodon.social

          Words that came out of my mouth just now: "Open Source is not a magic wand that allows you to not spend money on software development."

          schneems@ruby.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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          #5

          @torgo Strong agree. The best framing I've heard is:

          OSS isn't good because it's "free" it's good because it's the best. It has the best eyes in the world on it, because it's open to all the eyes of the world. It's "free" as in "free for anyone to improve."

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          • torgo@mastodon.socialT torgo@mastodon.social

            Words that came out of my mouth just now: "Open Source is not a magic wand that allows you to not spend money on software development."

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            #6

            @torgo Right, that’s an LLM’s job. 😅😉

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            • schneems@ruby.socialS schneems@ruby.social

              @torgo Strong agree. The best framing I've heard is:

              OSS isn't good because it's "free" it's good because it's the best. It has the best eyes in the world on it, because it's open to all the eyes of the world. It's "free" as in "free for anyone to improve."

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              #7

              @Schneems @torgo Most of your open source dependencies have fewer eyes on them than a proprietary project.

              This myth that open source is inherently looked at by everyone should be buried deep.

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              • torgo@mastodon.socialT torgo@mastodon.social

                Words that came out of my mouth just now: "Open Source is not a magic wand that allows you to not spend money on software development."

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                #8

                @torgo It's a magic wand that allows you to examine, modify, and fix software.

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                • torgo@mastodon.socialT torgo@mastodon.social

                  Words that came out of my mouth just now: "Open Source is not a magic wand that allows you to not spend money on software development."

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                  #9

                  @torgo
                  OS ≠ 0$

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                  • rasterweb@mastodon.socialR rasterweb@mastodon.social

                    @torgo It's a magic wand that allows you to examine, modify, and fix software.

                    bignose@sw-development-is.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #10

                    @rasterweb Allows you to examine, modify, improve, *and* share all that with others.

                    Though #FreeSoftware is the one which emphasises the community aspect, #OpenSource still requires that community be *possible*.

                    But because corporations tend to be extremely uncomfortable with mutually-beneficial community, that never gets mentioned.

                    @torgo

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                    • chrastecky@phpc.socialC chrastecky@phpc.social

                      @Schneems @torgo Most of your open source dependencies have fewer eyes on them than a proprietary project.

                      This myth that open source is inherently looked at by everyone should be buried deep.

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                      #11

                      @chrastecky @Schneems @torgo this is unfortunately a fair point - particularly with obscure dependencies used in ways they may not be designed for.

                      The real selling point is that you can control your software if you invest the time and effort or money into it.

                      I think the original attempt at marketing undercut foss developers that way.

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