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  • mttaggart@infosec.exchangeM mttaggart@infosec.exchange

    To clarify: I am saying this is what they want. Not that it is inevitable. But it's difficult to ignore the clear pattern of strategic decisions by these companies since the dawn of "services" until this benighted age.

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    #57

    @mttaggart I just came across this recent article about the 1990s "thin clients" that Oracle was pushing.

    https://www.techradar.com/pro/its-cheaper-for-you-and-more-profitable-for-us-in-1998-larry-ellison-predicted-the-world-we-live-in-today-where-you-pay-over-and-over-for-software-you-dont-own

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    • V vrek@mastodon.social

      @tomcat @mttaggart back when I was a child, like in the 90s I had this idea of the future but not so orwellian. I imagined that most homes would eventually have a big powerful computer in a cliset/basement/attic and then have several like dumb terminals around that accessed that data. So like you have all the music you like on the central computer then you go in the kitchen and tell the kitchen terminal to play your favorite song.

      Kinda like self-hosting but with basic input, screen, audio only

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      #58

      @vrek @tomcat @mttaggart same, tho I imagined it including your household email server, and with the option to make your stuff accessible remotely. If only we’d organized society around enabling the many rather than around enriching the few

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      • mttaggart@infosec.exchangeM mttaggart@infosec.exchange

        You see what's happening right?

        They are preventing you from accessing the means of computing, making you reliant on their services in the future they're building.

        At astronomical rents.

        https://wccftech.com/western-digital-has-no-more-hdd-capacity-left-out/

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        #59

        @mttaggart sorry I'm in the wrong field of engineering. What's wrong with SSDs?

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        • linza@kamu.socialL linza@kamu.social

          @mttaggart sorry I'm in the wrong field of engineering. What's wrong with SSDs?

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          #60

          @Linza SSDs were already short for roughly the same reasons DRAM was.

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          • mttaggart@infosec.exchangeM mttaggart@infosec.exchange

            @Linza SSDs were already short for roughly the same reasons DRAM was.

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            #61

            @mttaggart got it! Thanks.

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            • S shadsterling@mastodon.social

              @vrek @tomcat @mttaggart same, tho I imagined it including your household email server, and with the option to make your stuff accessible remotely. If only we’d organized society around enabling the many rather than around enriching the few

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              #62

              @ShadSterling @tomcat @mttaggart exactly, I imagined it like electricity. Your power company doesn't care if you run a TV or a fridge. You would buy a certain amount of data/time for your central server, like a giant ups for your power company, and then just get all your media from there...

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              • mttaggart@infosec.exchangeM mttaggart@infosec.exchange

                You see what's happening right?

                They are preventing you from accessing the means of computing, making you reliant on their services in the future they're building.

                At astronomical rents.

                https://wccftech.com/western-digital-has-no-more-hdd-capacity-left-out/

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                #63

                We need a company to emerge that will manufacture it. It needs to be a FOSS type, European company.

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                • tomcat@mstdn.starnix.networkT tomcat@mstdn.starnix.network

                  @vrek

                  I support self-hosting

                  @mttaggart

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                  #64

                  @tomcat @mttaggart I do too, just didn't my 10 year old imagination.

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                  • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

                    @raymierussell @galacticstone @mttaggart

                    The people funding the AI bubble are creating a profitable point of Chokepoint Capitalism.

                    Chips, memory, hard drives -- once placed in artificially short supply, ...

                    ... when the AI Bubble bursts, they can hold the non-AI economy as hostage until they get their government bailout.

                    https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevebanker/2023/02/17/the-worlds-most-vulnerable-supply-chain-impacts-all-supply-chains/

                    Monopolies & too few players -- a recipe for a crash & bailout.
                    https://www.riskhedge.com/post/the-next-big-AI-winners-are

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                    #65

                    @Npars01 @raymierussell @galacticstone @mttaggart
                    😯

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                    • mttaggart@infosec.exchangeM mttaggart@infosec.exchange

                      You see what's happening right?

                      They are preventing you from accessing the means of computing, making you reliant on their services in the future they're building.

                      At astronomical rents.

                      https://wccftech.com/western-digital-has-no-more-hdd-capacity-left-out/

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                      #66

                      @mttaggart

                      The invisible hand of free markets. 🤣 Wait till the bubble bursts.

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                      • tinmouth@infosec.exchangeT tinmouth@infosec.exchange

                        @mttaggart had to go look that up! It's true none of my cd-rw's from the late 90s read anymore.

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                        #67

                        @tinmouth @mttaggart

                        I was a fan of a King Crimson tribute band Toploader & a cd I had started mis-tracking

                        I emailed the management a new one was promptly sent, off the cuff I was told then back up your CDs as the lifespan even of manufactured discs was not assured!

                        Back to vinyl!

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                        • scott@sfba.socialS scott@sfba.social

                          @botolo86 @mttaggart ahh yes I remember now when being called BASIC was cool (well, to certain folks…) 🤓😁

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                          #68

                          @scott @botolo86 @mttaggart

                          Did ZX81 basic!

                          On a portable 5" TV screen!

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                          • mttaggart@infosec.exchangeM mttaggart@infosec.exchange

                            You see what's happening right?

                            They are preventing you from accessing the means of computing, making you reliant on their services in the future they're building.

                            At astronomical rents.

                            https://wccftech.com/western-digital-has-no-more-hdd-capacity-left-out/

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                            #69

                            @mttaggart well there is always a majority of stupid people around to promote these and they are always the loudest, specially ones working in tech. But don't worry they will still tell you buy a insanely overpriced, criminally under speced mac book to access this billionaire bullshit.

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                            • lemgandi@mastodon.socialL lemgandi@mastodon.social

                              @mttaggart

                              Do not attribute to malice that which can be explained by stupidity.

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                              #70

                              @lemgandi @mttaggart this sentence has given so many fucking assholes the benefit of the doubt.

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                              • mttaggart@infosec.exchangeM mttaggart@infosec.exchange

                                You see what's happening right?

                                They are preventing you from accessing the means of computing, making you reliant on their services in the future they're building.

                                At astronomical rents.

                                https://wccftech.com/western-digital-has-no-more-hdd-capacity-left-out/

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                                #71

                                @mttaggart

                                And you can wait for the impact when China invades Taiwan and 70% of the worldwide Microchips production falls in disarray..

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                                • pablomartini@climatejustice.socialP pablomartini@climatejustice.social

                                  @tinmouth @mttaggart

                                  I was a fan of a King Crimson tribute band Toploader & a cd I had started mis-tracking

                                  I emailed the management a new one was promptly sent, off the cuff I was told then back up your CDs as the lifespan even of manufactured discs was not assured!

                                  Back to vinyl!

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                                  #72

                                  @PabloMartini @mttaggart yea some of my earliest ones - not even that early in the scheme of CDs - have rotted.

                                  Yet audio tapes still play, c64 tapes still load fine.

                                  Seems like a standard tech con!

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                                  • mttaggart@infosec.exchangeM mttaggart@infosec.exchange

                                    You see what's happening right?

                                    They are preventing you from accessing the means of computing, making you reliant on their services in the future they're building.

                                    At astronomical rents.

                                    https://wccftech.com/western-digital-has-no-more-hdd-capacity-left-out/

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                                    #73

                                    @mttaggart Sooner or later the absolute and complete control over all electronic devices by those operating gigantically expensive chip fabrication centres would start to exploit that monopoly. Much as those extracting and controlling rare and vital minerals used in devices.

                                    Modern life is a tad precarious.

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                                    • agowa338@chaos.socialA agowa338@chaos.social

                                      @mttaggart

                                      Nah, don't be that dystopian. It'll suck for sure, however they will still want to get rid of all of the old used ones on a regular basis...

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                                      #74

                                      @agowa338 @mttaggart they use mostly enterprise disks that can't be used on consumer PC.

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                                      • threedollarchickenparm@mstdn.caT threedollarchickenparm@mstdn.ca

                                        @mttaggart I don't believe in this take, and I'm especially not a big fan of the conspiratorial language you're using to describe it. How does a large spike in demand for a monopolized industry give any indication that the goal is to move users over to cloud computing? What makes this different from the pandemic shortage, or the 2011 Japan earthquake? From my perspective, this takes away from a lot of the closer, very concrete problems AI is causing right now.

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                                        #75

                                        @threedollarchickenparm @mttaggart a few months ago Bezos said on an interview that in the future all workloads will be on the cloud. This doesn't prove all of them want or are planning and trying to kill personal computing without the cloud, but certainly some are.

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                                        • diogoconstantino@masto.ptD diogoconstantino@masto.pt

                                          @agowa338 @mttaggart they use mostly enterprise disks that can't be used on consumer PC.

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                                          #76

                                          @DiogoConstantino @mttaggart

                                          As in SAS? Just buy a cheap SAS controller...

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