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  • mttaggart@infosec.exchangeM mttaggart@infosec.exchange

    @agowa338 The ones used for training workloads are not usable after 1-2 years max. Anything fronting hot storage will be in a similar situation. Sure, some may be resold, but if they already have a shorter lifespan, the supply issue remains.

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    #53

    @mttaggart

    well as I said it for sure will suck. However it's not "as dystopian" as you said with being cut of from the means of computation.

    Also don't forget to also keep an eye on China. As prices rise there will be more and more opportunities for new companies to enter the market (ones that don't have their factory processes optimised to keep faulty units per production cycle in check).

    Same for GPUs the first "all china" GPUs should be purchasable in a few months

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    • mttaggart@infosec.exchangeM mttaggart@infosec.exchange

      You see what's happening right?

      They are preventing you from accessing the means of computing, making you reliant on their services in the future they're building.

      At astronomical rents.

      https://wccftech.com/western-digital-has-no-more-hdd-capacity-left-out/

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      #54

      @mttaggart
      Toshiba still make decent drives.

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      • tomcat@mstdn.starnix.networkT tomcat@mstdn.starnix.network

        @mttaggart

        Phase 1: force AI adoption by removing other options to not use it

        Phase 2: make computing unaffordable for the masses by buying up all stock of components, driving up demand while building datacenters.

        Phase 3: further increase demand for and adoption of your cloud computing/AI datacenter by making people reliant on crappy cloud PCs/PCaaS devices with little horsepower to do much else

        Phase 4: use telemetry/spyware in said datacenters to surveil/harvest data from every user of said cloud PCs and use it to serve hyper-targeted ads (everyone knows people love hyper-targeted ads) and send drone fleets to respond to/harass dissenters domestic terrorists

        Phase 5: profit

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        #55

        @tomcat @mttaggart

        And everything ends up looking like Gaza. Yes. This is the plan.

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        • botolo86@mstdn.socialB botolo86@mstdn.social

          @mttaggart I still have my Commodore 64. They will never trap me. 10 PRINT “C64 RULEZ” ; 20 GOTO 10 ; RUN #c64

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          #56

          @botolo86 @mttaggart ahh yes I remember now when being called BASIC was cool (well, to certain folks…) 🤓😁

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          • mttaggart@infosec.exchangeM mttaggart@infosec.exchange

            To clarify: I am saying this is what they want. Not that it is inevitable. But it's difficult to ignore the clear pattern of strategic decisions by these companies since the dawn of "services" until this benighted age.

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            #57

            @mttaggart I just came across this recent article about the 1990s "thin clients" that Oracle was pushing.

            https://www.techradar.com/pro/its-cheaper-for-you-and-more-profitable-for-us-in-1998-larry-ellison-predicted-the-world-we-live-in-today-where-you-pay-over-and-over-for-software-you-dont-own

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            • V vrek@mastodon.social

              @tomcat @mttaggart back when I was a child, like in the 90s I had this idea of the future but not so orwellian. I imagined that most homes would eventually have a big powerful computer in a cliset/basement/attic and then have several like dumb terminals around that accessed that data. So like you have all the music you like on the central computer then you go in the kitchen and tell the kitchen terminal to play your favorite song.

              Kinda like self-hosting but with basic input, screen, audio only

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              shadsterling@mastodon.social
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              #58

              @vrek @tomcat @mttaggart same, tho I imagined it including your household email server, and with the option to make your stuff accessible remotely. If only we’d organized society around enabling the many rather than around enriching the few

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              • mttaggart@infosec.exchangeM mttaggart@infosec.exchange

                You see what's happening right?

                They are preventing you from accessing the means of computing, making you reliant on their services in the future they're building.

                At astronomical rents.

                https://wccftech.com/western-digital-has-no-more-hdd-capacity-left-out/

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                #59

                @mttaggart sorry I'm in the wrong field of engineering. What's wrong with SSDs?

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                • linza@kamu.socialL linza@kamu.social

                  @mttaggart sorry I'm in the wrong field of engineering. What's wrong with SSDs?

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                  #60

                  @Linza SSDs were already short for roughly the same reasons DRAM was.

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                  • mttaggart@infosec.exchangeM mttaggart@infosec.exchange

                    @Linza SSDs were already short for roughly the same reasons DRAM was.

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                    #61

                    @mttaggart got it! Thanks.

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                    • S shadsterling@mastodon.social

                      @vrek @tomcat @mttaggart same, tho I imagined it including your household email server, and with the option to make your stuff accessible remotely. If only we’d organized society around enabling the many rather than around enriching the few

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                      #62

                      @ShadSterling @tomcat @mttaggart exactly, I imagined it like electricity. Your power company doesn't care if you run a TV or a fridge. You would buy a certain amount of data/time for your central server, like a giant ups for your power company, and then just get all your media from there...

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                      • mttaggart@infosec.exchangeM mttaggart@infosec.exchange

                        You see what's happening right?

                        They are preventing you from accessing the means of computing, making you reliant on their services in the future they're building.

                        At astronomical rents.

                        https://wccftech.com/western-digital-has-no-more-hdd-capacity-left-out/

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                        #63

                        We need a company to emerge that will manufacture it. It needs to be a FOSS type, European company.

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                        • tomcat@mstdn.starnix.networkT tomcat@mstdn.starnix.network

                          @vrek

                          I support self-hosting

                          @mttaggart

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                          #64

                          @tomcat @mttaggart I do too, just didn't my 10 year old imagination.

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                          • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

                            @raymierussell @galacticstone @mttaggart

                            The people funding the AI bubble are creating a profitable point of Chokepoint Capitalism.

                            Chips, memory, hard drives -- once placed in artificially short supply, ...

                            ... when the AI Bubble bursts, they can hold the non-AI economy as hostage until they get their government bailout.

                            https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevebanker/2023/02/17/the-worlds-most-vulnerable-supply-chain-impacts-all-supply-chains/

                            Monopolies & too few players -- a recipe for a crash & bailout.
                            https://www.riskhedge.com/post/the-next-big-AI-winners-are

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                            #65

                            @Npars01 @raymierussell @galacticstone @mttaggart
                            😯

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                            • mttaggart@infosec.exchangeM mttaggart@infosec.exchange

                              You see what's happening right?

                              They are preventing you from accessing the means of computing, making you reliant on their services in the future they're building.

                              At astronomical rents.

                              https://wccftech.com/western-digital-has-no-more-hdd-capacity-left-out/

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                              #66

                              @mttaggart

                              The invisible hand of free markets. 🤣 Wait till the bubble bursts.

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                              • tinmouth@infosec.exchangeT tinmouth@infosec.exchange

                                @mttaggart had to go look that up! It's true none of my cd-rw's from the late 90s read anymore.

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                                #67

                                @tinmouth @mttaggart

                                I was a fan of a King Crimson tribute band Toploader & a cd I had started mis-tracking

                                I emailed the management a new one was promptly sent, off the cuff I was told then back up your CDs as the lifespan even of manufactured discs was not assured!

                                Back to vinyl!

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                                • scott@sfba.socialS scott@sfba.social

                                  @botolo86 @mttaggart ahh yes I remember now when being called BASIC was cool (well, to certain folks…) 🤓😁

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                                  #68

                                  @scott @botolo86 @mttaggart

                                  Did ZX81 basic!

                                  On a portable 5" TV screen!

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                                  • mttaggart@infosec.exchangeM mttaggart@infosec.exchange

                                    You see what's happening right?

                                    They are preventing you from accessing the means of computing, making you reliant on their services in the future they're building.

                                    At astronomical rents.

                                    https://wccftech.com/western-digital-has-no-more-hdd-capacity-left-out/

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                                    #69

                                    @mttaggart well there is always a majority of stupid people around to promote these and they are always the loudest, specially ones working in tech. But don't worry they will still tell you buy a insanely overpriced, criminally under speced mac book to access this billionaire bullshit.

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                                    • lemgandi@mastodon.socialL lemgandi@mastodon.social

                                      @mttaggart

                                      Do not attribute to malice that which can be explained by stupidity.

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                                      #70

                                      @lemgandi @mttaggart this sentence has given so many fucking assholes the benefit of the doubt.

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                                      • mttaggart@infosec.exchangeM mttaggart@infosec.exchange

                                        You see what's happening right?

                                        They are preventing you from accessing the means of computing, making you reliant on their services in the future they're building.

                                        At astronomical rents.

                                        https://wccftech.com/western-digital-has-no-more-hdd-capacity-left-out/

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                                        #71

                                        @mttaggart

                                        And you can wait for the impact when China invades Taiwan and 70% of the worldwide Microchips production falls in disarray..

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                                        • pablomartini@climatejustice.socialP pablomartini@climatejustice.social

                                          @tinmouth @mttaggart

                                          I was a fan of a King Crimson tribute band Toploader & a cd I had started mis-tracking

                                          I emailed the management a new one was promptly sent, off the cuff I was told then back up your CDs as the lifespan even of manufactured discs was not assured!

                                          Back to vinyl!

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                                          #72

                                          @PabloMartini @mttaggart yea some of my earliest ones - not even that early in the scheme of CDs - have rotted.

                                          Yet audio tapes still play, c64 tapes still load fine.

                                          Seems like a standard tech con!

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