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  • tschenkel@mathstodon.xyzT tschenkel@mathstodon.xyz

    @mttaggart

    I regret having delayed upgrading my old 4x2TB NAS array, because I didn't want to spend that much money on HDDs. Seems like everywhere is limited to 2 drives per account where I am.

    May need to get a hotswap enclosure and pick out all my old 0.5TB drives for less frequently used stuff.

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    #27

    @tschenkel @mttaggart

    I have a bunch of mismatched drives using btrfs to build a single raid partition across them all as my desktop's big storage hoard

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    • mttaggart@infosec.exchangeM mttaggart@infosec.exchange

      You see what's happening right?

      They are preventing you from accessing the means of computing, making you reliant on their services in the future they're building.

      At astronomical rents.

      https://wccftech.com/western-digital-has-no-more-hdd-capacity-left-out/

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      #28

      @mttaggart I look forward to an upcoming glut of YouTube content discussing home tape library robots.

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      • tinmouth@infosec.exchangeT tinmouth@infosec.exchange

        @mttaggart had to go look that up! It's true none of my cd-rw's from the late 90s read anymore.

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        #29

        @tinmouth @mttaggart All of my car mixes on CDR still work, so fingers crossed.

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        • galacticstone@mastodon.socialG galacticstone@mastodon.social

          @mttaggart Suddenly all that retro "obsolete" hardware isn't so niche and worthless. I have a stack of old laptops to cannibalize - enough to last a Linux lifetime.

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          #30

          @galacticstone @mttaggart Same, I have a stack of older machines that mostly got new drives in the last year and got maxed out RAM.

          I did it because of tariffs, but it works for this too.

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          • mttaggart@infosec.exchangeM mttaggart@infosec.exchange

            You see what's happening right?

            They are preventing you from accessing the means of computing, making you reliant on their services in the future they're building.

            At astronomical rents.

            https://wccftech.com/western-digital-has-no-more-hdd-capacity-left-out/

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            #31

            @mttaggart whaddya suppose they're gonna do when all those drives get old in a few years? Dump them in the ocean? Nope, they will go in big crates and get wrapped in saran wrap and sold in lots of 1000, to guys in industrial suburbs who will uncrate and sell them for thirty bucks each.

            "Not good enough for AI, but good enough for you!"

            The moment Samsung or Hitachi start selling 10-petabyte drives,all those little terabyte SSDs will suddenly be worth fuckshit except to normal users.

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            • mttaggart@infosec.exchangeM mttaggart@infosec.exchange

              You see what's happening right?

              They are preventing you from accessing the means of computing, making you reliant on their services in the future they're building.

              At astronomical rents.

              https://wccftech.com/western-digital-has-no-more-hdd-capacity-left-out/

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              #32

              @mttaggart

              ...and they can monitor and alter the results the computing produces to their advantage. Or deny it completely to those they want to punish.

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              • freya@chaosfem.twF freya@chaosfem.tw

                @tschenkel @mttaggart oooo pretty machines. I'm on Dell R720 and a T340 all running FreeBSD and Solaris

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                #33

                @freya @tschenkel @mttaggart

                I have three R720s in my rack (only one of which I dare power up permanently due to the power bill I eventually twigged they were going to blow out). I'm no longer regretting not ditching them.

                The one that's running has plenty of RAM/storage to be cannibalized for quite some time.

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                • the_turtle@mastodon.sdf.orgT the_turtle@mastodon.sdf.org

                  @mttaggart whaddya suppose they're gonna do when all those drives get old in a few years? Dump them in the ocean? Nope, they will go in big crates and get wrapped in saran wrap and sold in lots of 1000, to guys in industrial suburbs who will uncrate and sell them for thirty bucks each.

                  "Not good enough for AI, but good enough for you!"

                  The moment Samsung or Hitachi start selling 10-petabyte drives,all those little terabyte SSDs will suddenly be worth fuckshit except to normal users.

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                  #34

                  @mttaggart i remember the days when guys would hand-edit the bad block tables on Seagate ST-225s and sell them for $100 because new ones were still $300 and nobody could afford ST-4096s. A whole cottage industry sprang up around keeping 225s around. A whole 20 meg 40 years ago. 20 meg was actually large enough for Windows 1.02 or Digital Research GEM or just fuckin' DOS and Multimate or WordStar.

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                  • mttaggart@infosec.exchangeM mttaggart@infosec.exchange

                    You see what's happening right?

                    They are preventing you from accessing the means of computing, making you reliant on their services in the future they're building.

                    At astronomical rents.

                    https://wccftech.com/western-digital-has-no-more-hdd-capacity-left-out/

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                    #35

                    @mttaggart I very much wish I had purchased a 4TB NVME drive when they were 230 USD, now that the one I wanted is 700+.

                    I also wish I had ordered my laptop with 32GB, instead of 16GB DDR5, when it was an 80 USD upgrade, rather than now costing 300+.

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                    • the_turtle@mastodon.sdf.orgT the_turtle@mastodon.sdf.org

                      @mttaggart whaddya suppose they're gonna do when all those drives get old in a few years? Dump them in the ocean? Nope, they will go in big crates and get wrapped in saran wrap and sold in lots of 1000, to guys in industrial suburbs who will uncrate and sell them for thirty bucks each.

                      "Not good enough for AI, but good enough for you!"

                      The moment Samsung or Hitachi start selling 10-petabyte drives,all those little terabyte SSDs will suddenly be worth fuckshit except to normal users.

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                      #36

                      @the_turtle @mttaggart It gets sent into the shredder in the name of privacy?

                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQoKFovvigI though this is a video by Google from 2013 and I dunno if they're still doing it now

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                      • mttaggart@infosec.exchangeM mttaggart@infosec.exchange

                        You see what's happening right?

                        They are preventing you from accessing the means of computing, making you reliant on their services in the future they're building.

                        At astronomical rents.

                        https://wccftech.com/western-digital-has-no-more-hdd-capacity-left-out/

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                        #37
                        @mttaggart That has been their stated intention, so I would not be surprised that’s where this is going. When’s that AI bubble gonna burst?
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                        • mttaggart@infosec.exchangeM mttaggart@infosec.exchange

                          You see what's happening right?

                          They are preventing you from accessing the means of computing, making you reliant on their services in the future they're building.

                          At astronomical rents.

                          https://wccftech.com/western-digital-has-no-more-hdd-capacity-left-out/

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                          #38

                          @mttaggart @briankrebs If this is true then RIP Apple/Acer/Dell's business model

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                          • mttaggart@infosec.exchangeM mttaggart@infosec.exchange

                            You see what's happening right?

                            They are preventing you from accessing the means of computing, making you reliant on their services in the future they're building.

                            At astronomical rents.

                            https://wccftech.com/western-digital-has-no-more-hdd-capacity-left-out/

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                            #39

                            @mttaggart I wonder what would happen if the costs get too high to bear and people ended up... opting out entirely from computing

                            I mean it's not like you need computers to be able to grow a couple trees for food right

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                            • tomcat@mstdn.starnix.networkT tomcat@mstdn.starnix.network

                              @mttaggart

                              Phase 1: force AI adoption by removing other options to not use it

                              Phase 2: make computing unaffordable for the masses by buying up all stock of components, driving up demand while building datacenters.

                              Phase 3: further increase demand for and adoption of your cloud computing/AI datacenter by making people reliant on crappy cloud PCs/PCaaS devices with little horsepower to do much else

                              Phase 4: use telemetry/spyware in said datacenters to surveil/harvest data from every user of said cloud PCs and use it to serve hyper-targeted ads (everyone knows people love hyper-targeted ads) and send drone fleets to respond to/harass dissenters domestic terrorists

                              Phase 5: profit

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                              #40

                              @tomcat @mttaggart back when I was a child, like in the 90s I had this idea of the future but not so orwellian. I imagined that most homes would eventually have a big powerful computer in a cliset/basement/attic and then have several like dumb terminals around that accessed that data. So like you have all the music you like on the central computer then you go in the kitchen and tell the kitchen terminal to play your favorite song.

                              Kinda like self-hosting but with basic input, screen, audio only

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                              • ianjs@aus.socialI ianjs@aus.social

                                @freya @tschenkel @mttaggart

                                I have three R720s in my rack (only one of which I dare power up permanently due to the power bill I eventually twigged they were going to blow out). I'm no longer regretting not ditching them.

                                The one that's running has plenty of RAM/storage to be cannibalized for quite some time.

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                                #41

                                @ianjs @tschenkel @mttaggart I am a very lucky girl and have free power\

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                                • koakuma@uwu.socialK koakuma@uwu.social

                                  @the_turtle @mttaggart It gets sent into the shredder in the name of privacy?

                                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQoKFovvigI though this is a video by Google from 2013 and I dunno if they're still doing it now

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                                  #42

                                  @koakuma @the_turtle Even if they wanted to resell, the cost of logistics for such an operation would outstrip profits.

                                  Into the dump they'll go. We haven't even begun imagining the e-waste of this absurd misadventure.

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                                  • mttaggart@infosec.exchangeM mttaggart@infosec.exchange

                                    You see what's happening right?

                                    They are preventing you from accessing the means of computing, making you reliant on their services in the future they're building.

                                    At astronomical rents.

                                    https://wccftech.com/western-digital-has-no-more-hdd-capacity-left-out/

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                                    #43

                                    @mttaggart@infosec.exchange i genuinely think most tech companies would like to completely eliminate personal computers, and they have mostly succeeded. they make much more money if people buy phones that cost as much as computers and then pay a subscription for someone else to do their computing.

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                                    • koakuma@uwu.socialK koakuma@uwu.social

                                      @mttaggart I wonder what would happen if the costs get too high to bear and people ended up... opting out entirely from computing

                                      I mean it's not like you need computers to be able to grow a couple trees for food right

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                                      #44

                                      @koakuma@uwu.social @mttaggart@infosec.exchange most people have already done this, now they are just pushing away the few who are left. most tech companies dont care, phones and cloud subscriptions are more profitable anyway.

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                                      • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

                                        @raymierussell @galacticstone @mttaggart

                                        The people funding the AI bubble are creating a profitable point of Chokepoint Capitalism.

                                        Chips, memory, hard drives -- once placed in artificially short supply, ...

                                        ... when the AI Bubble bursts, they can hold the non-AI economy as hostage until they get their government bailout.

                                        https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevebanker/2023/02/17/the-worlds-most-vulnerable-supply-chain-impacts-all-supply-chains/

                                        Monopolies & too few players -- a recipe for a crash & bailout.
                                        https://www.riskhedge.com/post/the-next-big-AI-winners-are

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                                        #45

                                        @Npars01 @raymierussell @galacticstone @mttaggart

                                        Still true. Still vulnerable.

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                                        • mttaggart@infosec.exchangeM mttaggart@infosec.exchange

                                          You see what's happening right?

                                          They are preventing you from accessing the means of computing, making you reliant on their services in the future they're building.

                                          At astronomical rents.

                                          https://wccftech.com/western-digital-has-no-more-hdd-capacity-left-out/

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                                          #46

                                          @mttaggart I don't believe in this take, and I'm especially not a big fan of the conspiratorial language you're using to describe it. How does a large spike in demand for a monopolized industry give any indication that the goal is to move users over to cloud computing? What makes this different from the pandemic shortage, or the 2011 Japan earthquake? From my perspective, this takes away from a lot of the closer, very concrete problems AI is causing right now.

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