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Ok, maybe a bit controversial but:Remember when we fought for the right to remix?

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  • bleeptrack@vis.socialB bleeptrack@vis.social

    @promovicz I'm with you there and also not happy at all about what comes out of the big AI companies. I just think that the reaction of locking everything behind copyright, etc kills the community.

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    #9

    @bleeptrack Sorry to say, but I believe that’s “done and gone”. Open-source was built on academic and occupational privilege, and much of that privilege is gone. We can still do “free software” - but it won’t reach the masses, unless we re-establish some sort of new balance with capital and politics.

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    • bleeptrack@vis.socialB bleeptrack@vis.social

      Ok, maybe a bit controversial but:
      Remember when we fought for the right to remix?

      What really makes me sad is that everything is about more or stronger copyright in the current AI discussion.
      Same with the NFT bubble a few years ago where everything was about artificial scarcity.

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      #10

      @bleeptrack yap. The roles kinda reversed: Big vendors aught to be allowed to “remix” everything. Further aggregation of power while everyday users are left out. I wrote a bit about the supposed “fixes” to that which seem to wholesale embrace monetization last summer: https://stefan.bloggt.es/2025/06/licenses-signals-and-genai-scrapers/

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      • bleeptrack@vis.socialB bleeptrack@vis.social

        Ok, maybe a bit controversial but:
        Remember when we fought for the right to remix?

        What really makes me sad is that everything is about more or stronger copyright in the current AI discussion.
        Same with the NFT bubble a few years ago where everything was about artificial scarcity.

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        #11

        @bleeptrack
        if the remix is in the hands of big corps, it isn't fun anymore

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        • conchoid@mastodon.gamedev.placeC conchoid@mastodon.gamedev.place

          @bleeptrack
          if the remix is in the hands of big corps, it isn't fun anymore

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          #12

          @conchoid it's kind of not but is it worth stopping to share art and knowledge? It would be very sad if tech bros would stop us from sharing and being a community. Imho the best way to resist is to sticking together and keep going 🙂

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          • bleeptrack@vis.socialB bleeptrack@vis.social

            I made a thing.
            You made a thing.
            Let's slap it together to make an even cooler thing.

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            #13

            @bleeptrack fully agree with the "you and I" part.

            The distinction for me is that I create for people, not for companies. I make things so humans can learn and enjoy.

            Companies taking that and selling it back to me does not fit. That is why I insist on copyleft.
            And yes, I know that its not practically enforceable because I am neither rich nor a good lawyer. But that is besides the point. Its a culture war, the open web vs. big companies.

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            • bleeptrack@vis.socialB bleeptrack@vis.social

              @eLearningTechie I really feel you there! And I think that's really extremely sad. I don't want to persuade you - but just give you my point of view:

              If we make everything private, we are draining the community from art and knowledge. I'd say the death of our online communities would be the way bigger price to pay than feeding some greedy tech giant as a side effect. I also don't think we can actually starve them - when our communities dry out, the tech bros might actually find that beneficial.

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              #14

              @bleeptrack I don't disagree at all. But this is why copyright and watermarks, as crude and generally undesirable as they are, are the only options we currently have to make a stand against this vile theft and exploitation by the tech fascists of this world.
              (and yes, I never imagined I'd ever write a sort of pro cpoyright post either. These are strange times)

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              • bleeptrack@vis.socialB bleeptrack@vis.social

                Ok, maybe a bit controversial but:
                Remember when we fought for the right to remix?

                What really makes me sad is that everything is about more or stronger copyright in the current AI discussion.
                Same with the NFT bubble a few years ago where everything was about artificial scarcity.

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                #15

                @bleeptrack

                i’ve spent most of my life hoping we’d change the stultifying copyright regime hamstringing culture

                and the monkey paw curled a finger

                super large companies now get to live in that world but i don’t

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                • promovicz@chaos.socialP promovicz@chaos.social

                  @bleeptrack Sorry to say, but I believe that’s “done and gone”. Open-source was built on academic and occupational privilege, and much of that privilege is gone. We can still do “free software” - but it won’t reach the masses, unless we re-establish some sort of new balance with capital and politics.

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                  #16
                  @promovicz @bleeptrack i no longer do free software for the masses. I see it more and more becoming a niche for enthusiasts. sure some big projects still reach "the masses" for a while. as it looks right now, general purpose personal computing is becoming a thing of the past.
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                  • bleeptrack@vis.socialB bleeptrack@vis.social

                    Ok, maybe a bit controversial but:
                    Remember when we fought for the right to remix?

                    What really makes me sad is that everything is about more or stronger copyright in the current AI discussion.
                    Same with the NFT bubble a few years ago where everything was about artificial scarcity.

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                    #17

                    @bleeptrack I am super bitter about how USA power establishment made copyright and DRM such a big deal across the world (excluding China maybe?), prosecuted Aaron Schwarz, giving the millions a "lesson". Then pretty much the same establishment turned around and is saying, "hey, I've got a brilliant idea! It's so much better to not care about copyright, this is the only way our donors can build huge AI businesses (which we're already building anyway)!"

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                    • bleeptrack@vis.socialB bleeptrack@vis.social

                      @conchoid it's kind of not but is it worth stopping to share art and knowledge? It would be very sad if tech bros would stop us from sharing and being a community. Imho the best way to resist is to sticking together and keep going 🙂

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                      #18

                      @bleeptrack I also don't like to see artists stop sharing, but I totally understand them not wanting to be replaced by a machine. And they also need to eat and stuff. It is easier to alter copyright laws than capitalism.

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                      • conchoid@mastodon.gamedev.placeC conchoid@mastodon.gamedev.place

                        @bleeptrack I also don't like to see artists stop sharing, but I totally understand them not wanting to be replaced by a machine. And they also need to eat and stuff. It is easier to alter copyright laws than capitalism.

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                        #19

                        @bleeptrack in the early days i was fascinated by AI, but it is bullshit what is happening

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                        • bleeptrack@vis.socialB bleeptrack@vis.social

                          I made a thing.
                          You made a thing.
                          Let's slap it together to make an even cooler thing.

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                          #20

                          @bleeptrack I have a Peltier element so we can make something cool and hot at the same time! 🥸

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                          • trcwm@mastodon.socialT trcwm@mastodon.social

                            @bleeptrack I have a Peltier element so we can make something cool and hot at the same time! 🥸

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                            #21

                            @trcwm ha! 😄

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