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Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

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  • mike@sauropods.winM mike@sauropods.win

    @bjn @bitchboss Fair point. We all know what "necessary" ACTUALLY means, but that doesn't mean they're not maliciously interpreting it differently!

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    #87

    @mike @bjn

    And who says that everything is “legally” adjusted when you disable all options except for the one option “Accept only necessary”? I want to click through to the desired page as quickly as possible, not play ping pong by turning 25 options on or off. The cookie cleaner does the rest when a third-party cookie comes along, which means that for me, there is virtually no reason to be paranoid, and when I close the browser, the cookies and tracker pixies in the cache are completely gone.

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    • mike@sauropods.winM mike@sauropods.win

      Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

      If I follow a link and I get a "We care about your privacy" popup, I click the "Reject all" button and read the article.

      But if there is no "Reject all" button, just a link to a complicated set of preferences, I simply close the window and never see what the article had to say.

      I wonder how many others do this.

      And how many web-sites are losing A LOT of their traffic for this reason.

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      UPDATE: see replies, lots of people do this!

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      #88

      @mike Likewise, likewise.

      Getting increasingly allergic to cookies, and just turning away if/when I don't like the presented options. Which happens quite a lot now.

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      • mike@sauropods.winM mike@sauropods.win

        Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

        If I follow a link and I get a "We care about your privacy" popup, I click the "Reject all" button and read the article.

        But if there is no "Reject all" button, just a link to a complicated set of preferences, I simply close the window and never see what the article had to say.

        I wonder how many others do this.

        And how many web-sites are losing A LOT of their traffic for this reason.

        —
        UPDATE: see replies, lots of people do this!

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        #89

        @mike Yeah, I do this all the time.

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        • jfml@mastodon.artJ jfml@mastodon.art

          @mike Yeah, I do this all the time.

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          #90

          @mike Though maybe less than I would have to thanks to

          https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/android/addon/consent-o-matic/

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          • mike@sauropods.winM mike@sauropods.win

            Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

            If I follow a link and I get a "We care about your privacy" popup, I click the "Reject all" button and read the article.

            But if there is no "Reject all" button, just a link to a complicated set of preferences, I simply close the window and never see what the article had to say.

            I wonder how many others do this.

            And how many web-sites are losing A LOT of their traffic for this reason.

            —
            UPDATE: see replies, lots of people do this!

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            #91

            @mike
            I close every site showing this behavior as well as complaining about my ad blocker.
            I'd love to have working micro financing mechanisms, though

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            • mike@sauropods.winM mike@sauropods.win

              Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

              If I follow a link and I get a "We care about your privacy" popup, I click the "Reject all" button and read the article.

              But if there is no "Reject all" button, just a link to a complicated set of preferences, I simply close the window and never see what the article had to say.

              I wonder how many others do this.

              And how many web-sites are losing A LOT of their traffic for this reason.

              —
              UPDATE: see replies, lots of people do this!

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              #92

              @mike

              I recently discovered that I can set my browser to 'Session only' cookies as default permission; and then whitelist the websites that I want to be able to persist cookies.

              It hasn't quite sunk in yet, because I still go through the rigmarole you describe...

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              • benh@mastodon.scotB benh@mastodon.scot

                @mike

                I recently discovered that I can set my browser to 'Session only' cookies as default permission; and then whitelist the websites that I want to be able to persist cookies.

                It hasn't quite sunk in yet, because I still go through the rigmarole you describe...

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                #93

                @mike

                that is on Vivaldi
                https://vivaldi.com

                neither Firefox nor Chrome seem do anything so useful

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                • mike@sauropods.winM mike@sauropods.win

                  Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

                  If I follow a link and I get a "We care about your privacy" popup, I click the "Reject all" button and read the article.

                  But if there is no "Reject all" button, just a link to a complicated set of preferences, I simply close the window and never see what the article had to say.

                  I wonder how many others do this.

                  And how many web-sites are losing A LOT of their traffic for this reason.

                  —
                  UPDATE: see replies, lots of people do this!

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                  #94

                  @mike same. But if I care that much I treat it like a paywall and copy the link to read the archived version. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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                  • mike@sauropods.winM mike@sauropods.win

                    Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

                    If I follow a link and I get a "We care about your privacy" popup, I click the "Reject all" button and read the article.

                    But if there is no "Reject all" button, just a link to a complicated set of preferences, I simply close the window and never see what the article had to say.

                    I wonder how many others do this.

                    And how many web-sites are losing A LOT of their traffic for this reason.

                    —
                    UPDATE: see replies, lots of people do this!

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                    #95

                    @mike and how do we know if reject all even work?

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                    • antdude@mastodon.socialA antdude@mastodon.social

                      @mike and how do we know if reject all even work?

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                      #96

                      @antdude Indeed. Maybe it's time to treat all websites as hostile until demonstrated otherwise.

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                      • mike@sauropods.winM mike@sauropods.win

                        Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

                        If I follow a link and I get a "We care about your privacy" popup, I click the "Reject all" button and read the article.

                        But if there is no "Reject all" button, just a link to a complicated set of preferences, I simply close the window and never see what the article had to say.

                        I wonder how many others do this.

                        And how many web-sites are losing A LOT of their traffic for this reason.

                        —
                        UPDATE: see replies, lots of people do this!

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                        #97

                        when i'm in a good mood, i don't even click *Deny*, instead i open ublock, select the cookie pop-up section with the little color-picker and create a new rule

                        @mike

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                        • mike@sauropods.winM mike@sauropods.win

                          Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

                          If I follow a link and I get a "We care about your privacy" popup, I click the "Reject all" button and read the article.

                          But if there is no "Reject all" button, just a link to a complicated set of preferences, I simply close the window and never see what the article had to say.

                          I wonder how many others do this.

                          And how many web-sites are losing A LOT of their traffic for this reason.

                          —
                          UPDATE: see replies, lots of people do this!

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                          #98

                          @mike I do hit Safari's *reader mode* button in between. Sometimes it extracts the article body fine despite the original remaining partially occluded by the complicated preferences.

                          If that does work, I'll set reader mode as the default for this website and be unbothered by its popups.

                          If that doesn't work, I'll close the tab, exactly as you describe.

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                          • mike@sauropods.winM mike@sauropods.win

                            Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

                            If I follow a link and I get a "We care about your privacy" popup, I click the "Reject all" button and read the article.

                            But if there is no "Reject all" button, just a link to a complicated set of preferences, I simply close the window and never see what the article had to say.

                            I wonder how many others do this.

                            And how many web-sites are losing A LOT of their traffic for this reason.

                            —
                            UPDATE: see replies, lots of people do this!

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                            #99

                            @mike For years, (by my approximate sense of it) I'm glad to see more Reject all unnecesay as an option ... but I wonder if it just flips off one of many switches (which I never know having not seen the settings); I also wonder how liberally they judge "necessary" ... I hear they have trawlers that poke at websites routinely but it must be hard to automate that.

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                            • mike@sauropods.winM mike@sauropods.win

                              Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

                              If I follow a link and I get a "We care about your privacy" popup, I click the "Reject all" button and read the article.

                              But if there is no "Reject all" button, just a link to a complicated set of preferences, I simply close the window and never see what the article had to say.

                              I wonder how many others do this.

                              And how many web-sites are losing A LOT of their traffic for this reason.

                              —
                              UPDATE: see replies, lots of people do this!

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                              #100

                              @mike Miss out on a lot of articles because of this but it is their loss.

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                              • mike@sauropods.winM mike@sauropods.win

                                Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

                                If I follow a link and I get a "We care about your privacy" popup, I click the "Reject all" button and read the article.

                                But if there is no "Reject all" button, just a link to a complicated set of preferences, I simply close the window and never see what the article had to say.

                                I wonder how many others do this.

                                And how many web-sites are losing A LOT of their traffic for this reason.

                                —
                                UPDATE: see replies, lots of people do this!

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                                #101

                                @mike I do!

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                                • mike@sauropods.winM mike@sauropods.win

                                  Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

                                  If I follow a link and I get a "We care about your privacy" popup, I click the "Reject all" button and read the article.

                                  But if there is no "Reject all" button, just a link to a complicated set of preferences, I simply close the window and never see what the article had to say.

                                  I wonder how many others do this.

                                  And how many web-sites are losing A LOT of their traffic for this reason.

                                  —
                                  UPDATE: see replies, lots of people do this!

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                                  #102

                                  @mike

                                  Paywalls kill websites. Paywalls kill journalism. Not respecting privacy kills websites and journalism. Not respecting adblockers and opt outs kills websites and journalism.

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                                  • mike@sauropods.winM mike@sauropods.win

                                    Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

                                    If I follow a link and I get a "We care about your privacy" popup, I click the "Reject all" button and read the article.

                                    But if there is no "Reject all" button, just a link to a complicated set of preferences, I simply close the window and never see what the article had to say.

                                    I wonder how many others do this.

                                    And how many web-sites are losing A LOT of their traffic for this reason.

                                    —
                                    UPDATE: see replies, lots of people do this!

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                                    #103

                                    @mike Count on me. Thank you for sharing.

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                                    • mike@sauropods.winM mike@sauropods.win

                                      @talexb The next step is to delete Facebook itself 😉

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                                      #104

                                      @mike Yes, there is that option .. but in this year of our Lord 2026, FB is the way I stay in touch with a lot of my friends.

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                                      • talexb@fosstodon.orgT talexb@fosstodon.org

                                        @mike Yes, there is that option .. but in this year of our Lord 2026, FB is the way I stay in touch with a lot of my friends.

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                                        #105

                                        @talexb I get that, it's a real problem. I just recently managed to move all my family to WhatsApp. Which is not great, but less bad.

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                                        • gim@lou.ltG gim@lou.lt

                                          @mike @jokeyrhyme there were mentions/news last year, that things (regulation-wise) will be simplified - for end-users that is I'm not sure where/how that ended though.

                                          Btw, I'm aware that's not the solution to malicious compliance, but Consent-o-matic add-on usually does the job well.

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                                          #106

                                          @gim @mike @jokeyrhyme Can Consent-o-Matic open up and deny 583 cookies, then find and open up the other set hidden below, and deny them as well?

                                          Sometimes I switch browsers to one that deletes everything, every time, then I can click through agreeing everything and they only learn that people who enter the way I did go through the site in the order I did.

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