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Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

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  • mike@sauropods.winM mike@sauropods.win

    Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

    If I follow a link and I get a "We care about your privacy" popup, I click the "Reject all" button and read the article.

    But if there is no "Reject all" button, just a link to a complicated set of preferences, I simply close the window and never see what the article had to say.

    I wonder how many others do this.

    And how many web-sites are losing A LOT of their traffic for this reason.

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    UPDATE: see replies, lots of people do this!

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    #29

    @mike
    Yup, me too.
    Also wtf is 'legitimate interest'?

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    • mike@sauropods.winM mike@sauropods.win

      Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

      If I follow a link and I get a "We care about your privacy" popup, I click the "Reject all" button and read the article.

      But if there is no "Reject all" button, just a link to a complicated set of preferences, I simply close the window and never see what the article had to say.

      I wonder how many others do this.

      And how many web-sites are losing A LOT of their traffic for this reason.

      —
      UPDATE: see replies, lots of people do this!

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      #30

      @mike

      Yes. If there is no button labelled ‘Reject All’ or ‘Accept Only Necessary,’ then it's goodbye.

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      • mike@sauropods.winM mike@sauropods.win

        @glynmoody I wonder whether sites that don't have a Deny All button have any idea how much business they're losing.

        osma@mas.toO This user is from outside of this forum
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        #31

        They're not losing business. Their business is to sell tracked impressions to surveillance vendors, so deny all and a lost reader are both worth nothing.
        @mike @glynmoody

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        • mike@sauropods.winM mike@sauropods.win

          Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

          If I follow a link and I get a "We care about your privacy" popup, I click the "Reject all" button and read the article.

          But if there is no "Reject all" button, just a link to a complicated set of preferences, I simply close the window and never see what the article had to say.

          I wonder how many others do this.

          And how many web-sites are losing A LOT of their traffic for this reason.

          —
          UPDATE: see replies, lots of people do this!

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          #32

          @mike

          Me too.

          And I turn back on sites which give me the MAYBE LATER option instead of NO.

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          • mike@sauropods.winM mike@sauropods.win

            Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

            If I follow a link and I get a "We care about your privacy" popup, I click the "Reject all" button and read the article.

            But if there is no "Reject all" button, just a link to a complicated set of preferences, I simply close the window and never see what the article had to say.

            I wonder how many others do this.

            And how many web-sites are losing A LOT of their traffic for this reason.

            —
            UPDATE: see replies, lots of people do this!

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            #33

            @mike yes, this is what I do. At first I stressed over the “should I or shouldn’t I” decisions, then just decided I didn’t need that in my life, and that turned out to be correct 😅

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            • mike@sauropods.winM mike@sauropods.win

              Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

              If I follow a link and I get a "We care about your privacy" popup, I click the "Reject all" button and read the article.

              But if there is no "Reject all" button, just a link to a complicated set of preferences, I simply close the window and never see what the article had to say.

              I wonder how many others do this.

              And how many web-sites are losing A LOT of their traffic for this reason.

              —
              UPDATE: see replies, lots of people do this!

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              #34

              @mike

              I will not view a site if reject all isn’t available

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              • mike@sauropods.winM mike@sauropods.win

                Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

                If I follow a link and I get a "We care about your privacy" popup, I click the "Reject all" button and read the article.

                But if there is no "Reject all" button, just a link to a complicated set of preferences, I simply close the window and never see what the article had to say.

                I wonder how many others do this.

                And how many web-sites are losing A LOT of their traffic for this reason.

                —
                UPDATE: see replies, lots of people do this!

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                #35

                @mike More or less, I'm not religious about it, but yes, I'm also noticing a strong "I don't bother attitude".

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                • mike@sauropods.winM mike@sauropods.win

                  Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

                  If I follow a link and I get a "We care about your privacy" popup, I click the "Reject all" button and read the article.

                  But if there is no "Reject all" button, just a link to a complicated set of preferences, I simply close the window and never see what the article had to say.

                  I wonder how many others do this.

                  And how many web-sites are losing A LOT of their traffic for this reason.

                  —
                  UPDATE: see replies, lots of people do this!

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                  #36

                  @mike The worst slimy pattern is doing this with a complicated preferences panel that, when you finally click "save preferences", puts up a box saying there was an error saving preferences and kicks you back to the start. Instant nope. Breaking law, attempting plausible deniability, exploiting sunk cost fallacy.

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                  • mike@sauropods.winM mike@sauropods.win

                    Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

                    If I follow a link and I get a "We care about your privacy" popup, I click the "Reject all" button and read the article.

                    But if there is no "Reject all" button, just a link to a complicated set of preferences, I simply close the window and never see what the article had to say.

                    I wonder how many others do this.

                    And how many web-sites are losing A LOT of their traffic for this reason.

                    —
                    UPDATE: see replies, lots of people do this!

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                    #37

                    @mike I definitely do this (but I also go down their stupid UI-nightmare rabbit hole to see if I have options first, and usually it’s buried in there somewhere).

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                    • mike@sauropods.winM mike@sauropods.win

                      Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

                      If I follow a link and I get a "We care about your privacy" popup, I click the "Reject all" button and read the article.

                      But if there is no "Reject all" button, just a link to a complicated set of preferences, I simply close the window and never see what the article had to say.

                      I wonder how many others do this.

                      And how many web-sites are losing A LOT of their traffic for this reason.

                      —
                      UPDATE: see replies, lots of people do this!

                      lazyb0y@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #38

                      @mike
                      i admit too often im too curious and still do the extra clicks to get to the content and sometimes, which is also way too often, i also click „accept all“

                      the most important fact:

                      „we care about privacy“ is a lie if it’s coming in a cookie banner.

                      who really cares about privacy can do real necessary cookies without additional banner.
                      who does it anyway deserves no click at all - not reject all, not extra preferences settings, and least accept all

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                      • mike@sauropods.winM mike@sauropods.win

                        Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

                        If I follow a link and I get a "We care about your privacy" popup, I click the "Reject all" button and read the article.

                        But if there is no "Reject all" button, just a link to a complicated set of preferences, I simply close the window and never see what the article had to say.

                        I wonder how many others do this.

                        And how many web-sites are losing A LOT of their traffic for this reason.

                        —
                        UPDATE: see replies, lots of people do this!

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                        #39

                        @mike I also often skip websites that try to make me jump through privacy hoops.

                        If they don't honor my browser's signals for global privacy preference (as well as the older do-not-track) then F-'em.

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                        • mike@sauropods.winM mike@sauropods.win

                          @jokeyrhyme Yes, exactly. Under what circumstances would any informed person EVER do anything other than Deny All?

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                          #40

                          @mike @jokeyrhyme when the deny all is behind a 5€ per month subscription

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                          • mike@sauropods.winM mike@sauropods.win

                            Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

                            If I follow a link and I get a "We care about your privacy" popup, I click the "Reject all" button and read the article.

                            But if there is no "Reject all" button, just a link to a complicated set of preferences, I simply close the window and never see what the article had to say.

                            I wonder how many others do this.

                            And how many web-sites are losing A LOT of their traffic for this reason.

                            —
                            UPDATE: see replies, lots of people do this!

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                            #41

                            @mike Been doing it since the day I first encountered it

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                            • mike@sauropods.winM mike@sauropods.win

                              Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

                              If I follow a link and I get a "We care about your privacy" popup, I click the "Reject all" button and read the article.

                              But if there is no "Reject all" button, just a link to a complicated set of preferences, I simply close the window and never see what the article had to say.

                              I wonder how many others do this.

                              And how many web-sites are losing A LOT of their traffic for this reason.

                              —
                              UPDATE: see replies, lots of people do this!

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                              #42

                              @mike Same, but if I'm really interested and there's no easy way to reject all I open the page in an anonymous window.

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                              • gim@lou.ltG gim@lou.lt

                                @mike @jokeyrhyme there were mentions/news last year, that things (regulation-wise) will be simplified - for end-users that is I'm not sure where/how that ended though.

                                Btw, I'm aware that's not the solution to malicious compliance, but Consent-o-matic add-on usually does the job well.

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                                #43

                                @gim @mike @jokeyrhyme That's another try to be US-Bigtech friendly by the politicians/EU commission.
                                The problem the runway for that is getting shorter and shorter. The last time (In the never ending Schrems Saga) the ECJ bound the GDPR privacy rights literally directly to the Charter, so bending the GDPR to weaken privacy literally would require EU Treaty changes.
                                So the whole thing the EU Commission is planning stands on wooden feet, but it will buy the "IT industry" a couple of months/years.

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                                • mike@sauropods.winM mike@sauropods.win

                                  Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

                                  If I follow a link and I get a "We care about your privacy" popup, I click the "Reject all" button and read the article.

                                  But if there is no "Reject all" button, just a link to a complicated set of preferences, I simply close the window and never see what the article had to say.

                                  I wonder how many others do this.

                                  And how many web-sites are losing A LOT of their traffic for this reason.

                                  —
                                  UPDATE: see replies, lots of people do this!

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                                  #44

                                  @mike @dangillmor Same.

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                                  • mike@sauropods.winM mike@sauropods.win

                                    Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

                                    If I follow a link and I get a "We care about your privacy" popup, I click the "Reject all" button and read the article.

                                    But if there is no "Reject all" button, just a link to a complicated set of preferences, I simply close the window and never see what the article had to say.

                                    I wonder how many others do this.

                                    And how many web-sites are losing A LOT of their traffic for this reason.

                                    —
                                    UPDATE: see replies, lots of people do this!

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                                    #45

                                    @mike Yes indeed! but I fear we are a minority. Fediverse-based sample group probably a bit biased.

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                                    • mike@sauropods.winM mike@sauropods.win

                                      Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

                                      If I follow a link and I get a "We care about your privacy" popup, I click the "Reject all" button and read the article.

                                      But if there is no "Reject all" button, just a link to a complicated set of preferences, I simply close the window and never see what the article had to say.

                                      I wonder how many others do this.

                                      And how many web-sites are losing A LOT of their traffic for this reason.

                                      —
                                      UPDATE: see replies, lots of people do this!

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                                      #46

                                      @mike
                                      me too

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                                      • mike@sauropods.winM mike@sauropods.win

                                        Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

                                        If I follow a link and I get a "We care about your privacy" popup, I click the "Reject all" button and read the article.

                                        But if there is no "Reject all" button, just a link to a complicated set of preferences, I simply close the window and never see what the article had to say.

                                        I wonder how many others do this.

                                        And how many web-sites are losing A LOT of their traffic for this reason.

                                        —
                                        UPDATE: see replies, lots of people do this!

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                                        #47

                                        @mike I do that too!
                                        Relatedly I have been getting completely blocked pages because I use an ad blocker and am redirected to a page that says I need to allow them to serve content I don’t want. I don’t follow that either.

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                                        • jokeyrhyme@aus.socialJ jokeyrhyme@aus.social

                                          @mike I hate that the EU didn't just ban non-essential cookies completely instead of presenting users with the illusion of choice

                                          very tired of this malicious compliance

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                                          #48

                                          @jokeyrhyme @mike In the EU, the ones where you have to deselect a gazillion cookies are actually malicious non-compliance, they have been found illegal. Unfortunately there isn’t much enforcement, so it mostly continues.

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