Friendly reminder that Mastodon, et al is federated, which means you almost certainly won't see every reply on a thread.
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Friendly reminder that Mastodon, et al is federated, which means you almost certainly won't see every reply on a thread.
Let's say you're reading a post from "reasonable.domain". And someone from "cesspool.domain" replies to it. If your instance blocked "cesspool.domain", you won't see that reply.
This effect minimizes the appearance of harm. It can be a blessing, but it also means you won't always see the problems inherent on these platforms.
@Veronica Explainsyou won't always see the problems inherent on these platforms.
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@Beachbum this happens on Mastodon. It's what happens between instances as a result of federation/defederation.
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@vkc Yeah, I hate that. Combine it with long-running BUGS that no one seems to even bother considering as such, and all in all #mastodon is a pretty shitty app.
"cesspool.domain" pff. It's called "people I disagree with", mom ; Between reasonable and cesspool I'd chose cesspool anytime. Oh yeah, that, too: The #fediverse is simply plain BORING.
> If your instance blocked "cesspool.domain", you won't see that reply
Yeah. Hate-that-shite ; The *opposite* of dialogue.
Have a nice safe 🥱 day.
No, there's an important difference between disagreeing with someone and harassing someone. I can disagree with you and still be civil, as I'm doing now. But some small-minded people go out and look for members of a certain group, whom they then harass: it might be women, Black people, Jews or trans people, for example. That (and not constructive differences of opinion) is what most people here want to stop.
Differences of opinion are valuable: they're how we learn. Harassment is just destructive.
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I guess so? there's no actual harm if nobody who is offended by the comment sees it. like all the horrible stuff on the web that we never browse to. I guess we could say those sites are problems too but that reality is not something people usually complain about, except maybe when some wanted to scare us off the web in the 90s. it was a trade-off for letting people create their own sites. this moderation approach lets us share a social network with people we don't agree with 100%.
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Friendly reminder that Mastodon, et al is federated, which means you almost certainly won't see every reply on a thread.
Let's say you're reading a post from "reasonable.domain". And someone from "cesspool.domain" replies to it. If your instance blocked "cesspool.domain", you won't see that reply.
This effect minimizes the appearance of harm. It can be a blessing, but it also means you won't always see the problems inherent on these platforms.
For disclosure, I'm not the recipient of significant abuse, but I fully believe that it happens and is a problem. I'm also #acutallyAutistic and in the middle of a period of burnout, so brain fog is a limiting factor for me at the moment. It's entirely possible that I'm just unable to think this through properly.
I'm wondering if the harassment problem is because there's no direct, tangible consequence on the perpetrators (users or servers) for being blocked? Blocking doesn't stop the blocked from talking amongst themselves, and to others who do not block them.
Blocking seems to be the equivalent of "if I can't see it, it doesn't exist". If that's your only recourse, then all you can do is gaslight *yourself*.
Perhaps some kind of reputation mechanism might work? I know this has been tried before and has its own flaws, but I don't know if there's a way to overcome them.
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@vkc This is why I think blocking and user filtering should be done at a user level. Defederating a whole server because of some bad actors seems to me to be a sledgehammer to crack a wallnut.
@JustinMac84 @vkc I agree with this
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