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  • mattdm@hachyderm.ioM mattdm@hachyderm.io

    @sysop408 @kwayk42

    Apparently this: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/9781119163824.ch1

    (Says a PBS article I found.)

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    #53

    @mattdm I'm not sure what I was supposed to be seeing in that article. Would it make more sense if I had a subscription to read the full article?

    @kwayk42

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    • sysop408@sfba.socialS sysop408@sfba.social

      @mattdm yeah that brings up so many questions. So few things use AAAA batteries that most people don't even know they exist.

      On the other hand, 9V batteries aren't at all uncommon yet manufacturers will often make 6 AAAA batteries first and then use those to make a single 9V? Wouldn't it be more efficient to make the 9V directly and make fewer AAAA's?

      This has been bugging me ever since I learned this.

      @kwayk42

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      #54

      @sysop408 @mattdm @kwayk42
      The chemistry gives 1.5 volts. To make 9 volts, you need six cells in series anyway, though you could use other methods to separate them.

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      • nettings@mastodon.socialN nettings@mastodon.social

        @sysop408 @astrid @kwayk42 oh wow, TIL...
        but seriously, packing cylinders like that should be illegal. This is basically maximising the amount of air you can sell to a customer.

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        #55

        @nettings it's packed really tightly in there. The question I have is how it even makes sense economically to do that.

        @astrid @kwayk42

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        • a1ba@suya.placeA a1ba@suya.place
          @astrid AAAA is four times A because IPv6 address is four times larger than IPv4
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          #56
          @a1ba @astrid Which annoyingly isn't how it works for batteries (or sheets of paper, like A3 is bigger than A4).
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          • leeloo@chaosfem.twL leeloo@chaosfem.tw

            @sysop408 @mattdm @kwayk42
            The chemistry gives 1.5 volts. To make 9 volts, you need six cells in series anyway, though you could use other methods to separate them.

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            #57

            @leeloo ah! OK, now I've got the opposite question. If they're doing it like this because of the chemistry, how do the ones that don't use 6 AAAA batteries do it? Are they just making 6 flat cells packed into a rectangle instead of cylinders?

            @mattdm @kwayk42

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            • ruawhitepaw@chitter.xyzR ruawhitepaw@chitter.xyz

              @astrid Expanded version of this, that I posted a while ago:

              https://chitter.xyz/@ruawhitepaw/115728921736043236

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              #58

              @ruawhitepaw @astrid
              B# and E#? Those keys are missing on my keyboard.

              On the other hand, German speaking countries and areas that got their music theory from Germany tend to use H for the B key, so you can add musical note for H.

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              • sysop408@sfba.socialS sysop408@sfba.social

                @mattdm I'm not sure what I was supposed to be seeing in that article. Would it make more sense if I had a subscription to read the full article?

                @kwayk42

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                #59

                @sysop408 @kwayk42

                tl;dr The manufacturing process for making layers of things in rolls was already well-established for other things. Now even more so, so there's not any real incentive to retool for something else.

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                • sysop408@sfba.socialS sysop408@sfba.social

                  @leeloo ah! OK, now I've got the opposite question. If they're doing it like this because of the chemistry, how do the ones that don't use 6 AAAA batteries do it? Are they just making 6 flat cells packed into a rectangle instead of cylinders?

                  @mattdm @kwayk42

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                  #60

                  @sysop408 @mattdm @kwayk42
                  Interesting question, the people who have taken those apart would know.

                  I'm pretty sure lead acid car batteries put plastic walls between the cells (that chemistry gives 2 volts, so also needs six cells for the 12 volts).

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                  • lanodan@queer.hacktivis.meL lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
                    @a1ba @astrid Which annoyingly isn't how it works for batteries (or sheets of paper, like A3 is bigger than A4).
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                    #61
                    @lanodan
                    though paper sizes have some logic in them.

                    If you fold A3 you get A4.

                    @astrid
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                    • a1ba@suya.placeA a1ba@suya.place
                      @lanodan
                      though paper sizes have some logic in them.

                      If you fold A3 you get A4.

                      @astrid
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                      #62
                      @a1ba @astrid Yeah, while if you fold an AAA battery you… explode I guess.
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                      • astrid@infosec.exchangeA astrid@infosec.exchange

                        A - DNS Record
                        AA - Battery
                        AAA - Battery
                        AAAA - DNS Record

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                        #63

                        @astrid AAAA is also a battery, just not one commonly used. you are most likely to have handled them in packs of 6 inside 9-volt batteries (although not all 9-volt batteries are constructed like this)

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                        • astrid@infosec.exchangeA astrid@infosec.exchange

                          A - DNS Record
                          AA - Battery
                          AAA - Battery
                          AAAA - DNS Record

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                          #64

                          @astrid@infosec.exchange AAAA is also a battery, unfortunately

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                          • leeloo@chaosfem.twL leeloo@chaosfem.tw

                            @sysop408 @mattdm @kwayk42
                            Interesting question, the people who have taken those apart would know.

                            I'm pretty sure lead acid car batteries put plastic walls between the cells (that chemistry gives 2 volts, so also needs six cells for the 12 volts).

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                            #65

                            @leeloo @sysop408 @mattdm @kwayk42 yeah, six flat cells. in another branch of the thread someone posted a photo: https://infosec.exchange/@astrid/116045181097859309

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                            • astrid@infosec.exchangeA astrid@infosec.exchange

                              A - DNS Record
                              AA - Battery
                              AAA - Battery
                              AAAA - DNS Record

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                              #66

                              @astrid

                              https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/energizer-battery-company/E96VP/1955840

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                              • zwol@masto.hackers.townZ zwol@masto.hackers.town

                                @leeloo @sysop408 @mattdm @kwayk42 yeah, six flat cells. in another branch of the thread someone posted a photo: https://infosec.exchange/@astrid/116045181097859309

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                                #67

                                @zwol @sysop408 @mattdm @kwayk42
                                Oh. I saw the photo, but didn't realise the stripes were cells

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                                • astrid@infosec.exchangeA astrid@infosec.exchange

                                  A - DNS Record
                                  AA - Battery
                                  AAA - Battery
                                  AAAA - DNS Record

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                                  #68

                                  @astrid

                                  CNAME - Comes up occasionally in DNS
                                  CWORD - Comes up frequently when someone breaks DNS

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                                  • astrid@infosec.exchangeA astrid@infosec.exchange

                                    A - DNS Record
                                    AA - Battery
                                    AAA - Battery
                                    AAAA - DNS Record

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                                    #69

                                    @astrid AAAAA Andouillettes
                                    https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_amicale_des_amateurs_d%27andouillette_authentique

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                                    • leeloo@chaosfem.twL leeloo@chaosfem.tw

                                      @zwol @sysop408 @mattdm @kwayk42
                                      Oh. I saw the photo, but didn't realise the stripes were cells

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                                      #70

                                      @leeloo that went over my head too.

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                                      • astrid@infosec.exchangeA astrid@infosec.exchange

                                        A - DNS Record
                                        AA - Battery
                                        AAA - Battery
                                        AAAA - DNS Record

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                                        #71

                                        @astrid if A is so good how come they never made a B DNS Record?

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                                        • leeloo@chaosfem.twL leeloo@chaosfem.tw

                                          @ruawhitepaw @astrid
                                          B# and E#? Those keys are missing on my keyboard.

                                          On the other hand, German speaking countries and areas that got their music theory from Germany tend to use H for the B key, so you can add musical note for H.

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                                          #72

                                          @leeloo @astrid On a piano, B# is the same as C, and E# is the same as F. But within music theory they are considered distinct notes, and can have different pitches in some contexts.

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