It is 222 A.D.
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@CharlotteEowyn, the only thing really old and tested thoroughly is being ignorant.
@mgorny @CharlotteEowyn Can I quote you on that?
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@mgorny @CharlotteEowyn Can I quote you on that?
@drwho @CharlotteEowyn, sure.
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@nelson @CharlotteEowyn i don't think it was OP's intent to create a full list of every historical trans person
@ratsnakegames @nelson @CharlotteEowyn Oh, you're a trans ally? Name every trans person
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@ratsnakegames @nelson @CharlotteEowyn Oh, you're a trans ally? Name every trans person
@chamomile @ratsnakegames @CharlotteEowyn
uhhh, luna, uhmm.... amber
that's gotta be like 32% of them
/j
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@CharlotteEowyn wait, wasn't Public Universal Friend an enby?
@dhfir @CharlotteEowyn I believe so. They maintained the person with their dead name had in fact died, and they were sent from heaven as someone neither male nor female.
You may be confused, because the person with their dead name was assigned female at birth, but displayed a number of behaviors that people of their time ascribed to males.
And you can be "neither male nor female", assigned one or the other at birth, and not be trans anything. Some enbys do not identify as trans: after all trans comes from a root word meaning "on the other side".
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@mgorny @CharlotteEowyn Thank you kindly.
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The year is 2026, you are me. Held off chemically transitioning because you want a more androgenious/feminine appearance after 30+ years of trying to just keep yourself from being too masculine. An engineer who is now lied about and threatened by social media misinformation. Transitioning is new and experimental they say while you have access to historical and scientific evidence to the contrary.
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It is 222 A.D. You are the transgender Empress Elagabalus, "call me not a man for I am a woman". Transitioning is new and experimental.
It is 1776. You are "Public Universal Friend", a transmasculine nonbinary Quaker. Transitioning is new and experimental.
It is 1906. You are Karl M. Baer, a trans man undergoing sex reassignment. Transitioning is new and experimental.
It is 1930. You are Lili Elbe. Transitioning is new and experimental. (to be fair you did get a uterus transplant.)
It is 1966. You are in Compton's Cafeteria with a bunch of other trans people when the owners call the cops to throw you all out. You riot. Transitioning is new and experimental.
It is 1969. You are Marsha "pay it no mind" Johnson. You are in a mob-run gay bar when the cops attack. You throw a brick. There is a bit of a scuffle. Transitioning is new and experimental.
It is 2026. You are a transgender adult or child listening to the NYT and British Guardian claim this is the first generation anyone has tried transitioning in. Transitioning is new and experimental.
@CharlotteEowyn I'm feeling like Doctor Manhattan.
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It is 222 A.D. You are the transgender Empress Elagabalus, "call me not a man for I am a woman". Transitioning is new and experimental.
It is 1776. You are "Public Universal Friend", a transmasculine nonbinary Quaker. Transitioning is new and experimental.
It is 1906. You are Karl M. Baer, a trans man undergoing sex reassignment. Transitioning is new and experimental.
It is 1930. You are Lili Elbe. Transitioning is new and experimental. (to be fair you did get a uterus transplant.)
It is 1966. You are in Compton's Cafeteria with a bunch of other trans people when the owners call the cops to throw you all out. You riot. Transitioning is new and experimental.
It is 1969. You are Marsha "pay it no mind" Johnson. You are in a mob-run gay bar when the cops attack. You throw a brick. There is a bit of a scuffle. Transitioning is new and experimental.
It is 2026. You are a transgender adult or child listening to the NYT and British Guardian claim this is the first generation anyone has tried transitioning in. Transitioning is new and experimental.
@CharlotteEowyn Bookmarked for future reference.
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@CharlotteEowyn i did a relatively thorough media search and purported surprise at the existence of trans people crops up every eighteen months (i think?) back to the invention of newspapers. anyway, its a constant staple of the news and always has been.
@miriamrobern @CharlotteEowyn that's a great demonstration of the epistemology of ignorance, whereby cis white people can have a personal revelation once or twice per generation, every generation forever without ever having to actually change anything.
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It is 222 A.D. You are the transgender Empress Elagabalus, "call me not a man for I am a woman". Transitioning is new and experimental.
It is 1776. You are "Public Universal Friend", a transmasculine nonbinary Quaker. Transitioning is new and experimental.
It is 1906. You are Karl M. Baer, a trans man undergoing sex reassignment. Transitioning is new and experimental.
It is 1930. You are Lili Elbe. Transitioning is new and experimental. (to be fair you did get a uterus transplant.)
It is 1966. You are in Compton's Cafeteria with a bunch of other trans people when the owners call the cops to throw you all out. You riot. Transitioning is new and experimental.
It is 1969. You are Marsha "pay it no mind" Johnson. You are in a mob-run gay bar when the cops attack. You throw a brick. There is a bit of a scuffle. Transitioning is new and experimental.
It is 2026. You are a transgender adult or child listening to the NYT and British Guardian claim this is the first generation anyone has tried transitioning in. Transitioning is new and experimental.
it is 1990. a TERF comes out with a book describing India's hijra as "effeminate, third-gendered homosexual men." that book conveniently ignores the fact that some hijra take DIY hormones and actively campaign for recognition as women, because transitioning is new and experimental.
it is 2014. the Indian Supreme Court rules that all hijra are third-gendered, neither male nor female, citing said TERF as evidence for their decision. recognizing any hijra as women would, supposedly, violate their Constitutional rights. after all, transitioning is new and experimental.
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It is 222 A.D. You are the transgender Empress Elagabalus, "call me not a man for I am a woman". Transitioning is new and experimental.
It is 1776. You are "Public Universal Friend", a transmasculine nonbinary Quaker. Transitioning is new and experimental.
It is 1906. You are Karl M. Baer, a trans man undergoing sex reassignment. Transitioning is new and experimental.
It is 1930. You are Lili Elbe. Transitioning is new and experimental. (to be fair you did get a uterus transplant.)
It is 1966. You are in Compton's Cafeteria with a bunch of other trans people when the owners call the cops to throw you all out. You riot. Transitioning is new and experimental.
It is 1969. You are Marsha "pay it no mind" Johnson. You are in a mob-run gay bar when the cops attack. You throw a brick. There is a bit of a scuffle. Transitioning is new and experimental.
It is 2026. You are a transgender adult or child listening to the NYT and British Guardian claim this is the first generation anyone has tried transitioning in. Transitioning is new and experimental.
@CharlotteEowyn writes (ironically) "Transitioning is new and experimental."
Luckily, a number of our students transitioned and they are happy with themselves.
Luckily, one family member, my sister's child, transitioned and they, and everybody else around them, are happy with themselves.
Not everybody is so lucky, though. But I think things are much better now than when I was younger, at least in some parts of the world.
Or at least less worse. Let's make them even better in this respect. I trust the coming generations to make this happen. -
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