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  • charlotteeowyn@chaosfem.twC charlotteeowyn@chaosfem.tw

    It is 222 A.D. You are the transgender Empress Elagabalus, "call me not a man for I am a woman". Transitioning is new and experimental.

    It is 1776. You are "Public Universal Friend", a transmasculine nonbinary Quaker. Transitioning is new and experimental.

    It is 1906. You are Karl M. Baer, a trans man undergoing sex reassignment. Transitioning is new and experimental.

    It is 1930. You are Lili Elbe. Transitioning is new and experimental. (to be fair you did get a uterus transplant.)

    It is 1966. You are in Compton's Cafeteria with a bunch of other trans people when the owners call the cops to throw you all out. You riot. Transitioning is new and experimental.

    It is 1969. You are Marsha "pay it no mind" Johnson. You are in a mob-run gay bar when the cops attack. You throw a brick. There is a bit of a scuffle. Transitioning is new and experimental.

    It is 2026. You are a transgender adult or child listening to the NYT and British Guardian claim this is the first generation anyone has tried transitioning in. Transitioning is new and experimental.

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    #11

    @CharlotteEowyn Great post, wholly agree, but just as a note--Marsha wasn't actually there. She said she was uptown at the time. 🙂

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    • charlotteeowyn@chaosfem.twC charlotteeowyn@chaosfem.tw

      It is 222 A.D. You are the transgender Empress Elagabalus, "call me not a man for I am a woman". Transitioning is new and experimental.

      It is 1776. You are "Public Universal Friend", a transmasculine nonbinary Quaker. Transitioning is new and experimental.

      It is 1906. You are Karl M. Baer, a trans man undergoing sex reassignment. Transitioning is new and experimental.

      It is 1930. You are Lili Elbe. Transitioning is new and experimental. (to be fair you did get a uterus transplant.)

      It is 1966. You are in Compton's Cafeteria with a bunch of other trans people when the owners call the cops to throw you all out. You riot. Transitioning is new and experimental.

      It is 1969. You are Marsha "pay it no mind" Johnson. You are in a mob-run gay bar when the cops attack. You throw a brick. There is a bit of a scuffle. Transitioning is new and experimental.

      It is 2026. You are a transgender adult or child listening to the NYT and British Guardian claim this is the first generation anyone has tried transitioning in. Transitioning is new and experimental.

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      #12

      @CharlotteEowyn Such biggotry...

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      • charlotteeowyn@chaosfem.twC charlotteeowyn@chaosfem.tw

        It is 222 A.D. You are the transgender Empress Elagabalus, "call me not a man for I am a woman". Transitioning is new and experimental.

        It is 1776. You are "Public Universal Friend", a transmasculine nonbinary Quaker. Transitioning is new and experimental.

        It is 1906. You are Karl M. Baer, a trans man undergoing sex reassignment. Transitioning is new and experimental.

        It is 1930. You are Lili Elbe. Transitioning is new and experimental. (to be fair you did get a uterus transplant.)

        It is 1966. You are in Compton's Cafeteria with a bunch of other trans people when the owners call the cops to throw you all out. You riot. Transitioning is new and experimental.

        It is 1969. You are Marsha "pay it no mind" Johnson. You are in a mob-run gay bar when the cops attack. You throw a brick. There is a bit of a scuffle. Transitioning is new and experimental.

        It is 2026. You are a transgender adult or child listening to the NYT and British Guardian claim this is the first generation anyone has tried transitioning in. Transitioning is new and experimental.

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        #13

        @CharlotteEowyn It is 3rd century AD, you are no defined gender and a deity who is worshipped.
        "Laevius says: Worshiping, then, the nurturing god Venus, whether she is male or female, just as the Moon is a nurturing goddess. In his Atthis Philochorus, too, states that she is the Moon and that men sacrifice to her in women's dress, women in men's, because she is held to be both male and female." (Macrobius (c. 400s AD), Saturnalia 3.8.2)
        Nothing is new. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aphroditus

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        • charlotteeowyn@chaosfem.twC charlotteeowyn@chaosfem.tw

          It is 222 A.D. You are the transgender Empress Elagabalus, "call me not a man for I am a woman". Transitioning is new and experimental.

          It is 1776. You are "Public Universal Friend", a transmasculine nonbinary Quaker. Transitioning is new and experimental.

          It is 1906. You are Karl M. Baer, a trans man undergoing sex reassignment. Transitioning is new and experimental.

          It is 1930. You are Lili Elbe. Transitioning is new and experimental. (to be fair you did get a uterus transplant.)

          It is 1966. You are in Compton's Cafeteria with a bunch of other trans people when the owners call the cops to throw you all out. You riot. Transitioning is new and experimental.

          It is 1969. You are Marsha "pay it no mind" Johnson. You are in a mob-run gay bar when the cops attack. You throw a brick. There is a bit of a scuffle. Transitioning is new and experimental.

          It is 2026. You are a transgender adult or child listening to the NYT and British Guardian claim this is the first generation anyone has tried transitioning in. Transitioning is new and experimental.

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          #14

          @CharlotteEowyn makes you realize humans have been the same since the beginning

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          • charlotteeowyn@chaosfem.twC charlotteeowyn@chaosfem.tw

            It is 222 A.D. You are the transgender Empress Elagabalus, "call me not a man for I am a woman". Transitioning is new and experimental.

            It is 1776. You are "Public Universal Friend", a transmasculine nonbinary Quaker. Transitioning is new and experimental.

            It is 1906. You are Karl M. Baer, a trans man undergoing sex reassignment. Transitioning is new and experimental.

            It is 1930. You are Lili Elbe. Transitioning is new and experimental. (to be fair you did get a uterus transplant.)

            It is 1966. You are in Compton's Cafeteria with a bunch of other trans people when the owners call the cops to throw you all out. You riot. Transitioning is new and experimental.

            It is 1969. You are Marsha "pay it no mind" Johnson. You are in a mob-run gay bar when the cops attack. You throw a brick. There is a bit of a scuffle. Transitioning is new and experimental.

            It is 2026. You are a transgender adult or child listening to the NYT and British Guardian claim this is the first generation anyone has tried transitioning in. Transitioning is new and experimental.

            lda@masto.doskel.netL This user is from outside of this forum
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            #15

            @CharlotteEowyn isnt the PUF just "the friend" (i.e, genderless), thus making them FT(NB) (?) rather than FTM?
            doesn't change any of the point though, im just being slightly annoying on a detail

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            • nelson@wetdry.worldN nelson@wetdry.world

              @CharlotteEowyn where's my wendy carlos 😞

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              #16

              @nelson @CharlotteEowyn i don't think it was OP's intent to create a full list of every historical trans person

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              • ratsnakegames@mastodon.socialR ratsnakegames@mastodon.social

                @nelson @CharlotteEowyn i don't think it was OP's intent to create a full list of every historical trans person

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                #17

                @ratsnakegames @CharlotteEowyn yeah but my wendy carlos

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                • charlotteeowyn@chaosfem.twC charlotteeowyn@chaosfem.tw

                  It is 222 A.D. You are the transgender Empress Elagabalus, "call me not a man for I am a woman". Transitioning is new and experimental.

                  It is 1776. You are "Public Universal Friend", a transmasculine nonbinary Quaker. Transitioning is new and experimental.

                  It is 1906. You are Karl M. Baer, a trans man undergoing sex reassignment. Transitioning is new and experimental.

                  It is 1930. You are Lili Elbe. Transitioning is new and experimental. (to be fair you did get a uterus transplant.)

                  It is 1966. You are in Compton's Cafeteria with a bunch of other trans people when the owners call the cops to throw you all out. You riot. Transitioning is new and experimental.

                  It is 1969. You are Marsha "pay it no mind" Johnson. You are in a mob-run gay bar when the cops attack. You throw a brick. There is a bit of a scuffle. Transitioning is new and experimental.

                  It is 2026. You are a transgender adult or child listening to the NYT and British Guardian claim this is the first generation anyone has tried transitioning in. Transitioning is new and experimental.

                  cosmicktrigger@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #18

                  @CharlotteEowyn

                  When did Wendy Carlos (inventer of the Moog synthesizer and who experimented with computers playing music) transition publicly? I believe it was the 70s.

                  Also, a Bond girl was trans and Playboy, in the 70s, featured a pictorial by a trans woman.

                  One more thing: because the Stonewall was run by the mob, the cops used the RICO act as justification for the raid. I

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                  • lda@masto.doskel.netL lda@masto.doskel.net

                    @CharlotteEowyn isnt the PUF just "the friend" (i.e, genderless), thus making them FT(NB) (?) rather than FTM?
                    doesn't change any of the point though, im just being slightly annoying on a detail

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                    #19

                    @lda I usually assume transmasculine means 'towards masculinity' and not maleness, and transfemininity means 'towards femininity' and not femaleness. They can include those things, but are not necessarily those things.

                    So like, when I identified as she/her I was transfeminine. I now use they/she and I'm still transfeminine. Someone whose's nonbinary would still fall under the umbrella of their community, I assume.

                    Like everyone is different, not everyone will define it that way, but I wanted to call out it wasn't just trans women.

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                    • willowbriar@chaosfem.twW willowbriar@chaosfem.tw

                      @CharlotteEowyn

                      It is 1865. You are Doctor James Barry, stealth transgender man and former Inspector General for the British army. You leave notice that upon your death your body must not be examined. This is not followed, and a media circus follows with a shocking gender reveal. Transitioning is new and experimental.

                      It is 1876. You are author Marc/Marie de Montifaud. You "crossdress" as a man when visiting the library for research, use the names Marc and Marie interchangably, and your pronouns are known by multiple people to be she/he. Transitioning is new and experimental.

                      It is 1880. You are known mononymously as the decadent author Rachilde. You delight in presenting publicly as sometimes a man, sometimes a woman, sometimes in between. You joyfully describe yourself as "androgynous". Transitioning is new and experimental.

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                      #20

                      @CharlotteEowyn It is 7th century BCE. You are mythological third-gendered entity Asu-shu-namir, created by the god Enki to rescue Innana after the goddess descended into the underworld to steal her sister Ereshkigal's power. You are impossibly beautiful, neither man or woman, and your goal is to seduce the Queen of the Netherworld and steal the waters of life to revive Inanna. Upon completing your task you are caught, and while Inanna escapes, you do not. You and others like you are cursed by Ereshkigal to suffer economic hardship and social ostracization unto eternity. Transitioning is new(?) and experimental(?).

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                      • charlotteeowyn@chaosfem.twC charlotteeowyn@chaosfem.tw

                        It is 222 A.D. You are the transgender Empress Elagabalus, "call me not a man for I am a woman". Transitioning is new and experimental.

                        It is 1776. You are "Public Universal Friend", a transmasculine nonbinary Quaker. Transitioning is new and experimental.

                        It is 1906. You are Karl M. Baer, a trans man undergoing sex reassignment. Transitioning is new and experimental.

                        It is 1930. You are Lili Elbe. Transitioning is new and experimental. (to be fair you did get a uterus transplant.)

                        It is 1966. You are in Compton's Cafeteria with a bunch of other trans people when the owners call the cops to throw you all out. You riot. Transitioning is new and experimental.

                        It is 1969. You are Marsha "pay it no mind" Johnson. You are in a mob-run gay bar when the cops attack. You throw a brick. There is a bit of a scuffle. Transitioning is new and experimental.

                        It is 2026. You are a transgender adult or child listening to the NYT and British Guardian claim this is the first generation anyone has tried transitioning in. Transitioning is new and experimental.

                        mgorny@mastodon.com.plM This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #21

                        @CharlotteEowyn, the only thing really old and tested thoroughly is being ignorant.

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                        • charlotteeowyn@chaosfem.twC charlotteeowyn@chaosfem.tw

                          It is 222 A.D. You are the transgender Empress Elagabalus, "call me not a man for I am a woman". Transitioning is new and experimental.

                          It is 1776. You are "Public Universal Friend", a transmasculine nonbinary Quaker. Transitioning is new and experimental.

                          It is 1906. You are Karl M. Baer, a trans man undergoing sex reassignment. Transitioning is new and experimental.

                          It is 1930. You are Lili Elbe. Transitioning is new and experimental. (to be fair you did get a uterus transplant.)

                          It is 1966. You are in Compton's Cafeteria with a bunch of other trans people when the owners call the cops to throw you all out. You riot. Transitioning is new and experimental.

                          It is 1969. You are Marsha "pay it no mind" Johnson. You are in a mob-run gay bar when the cops attack. You throw a brick. There is a bit of a scuffle. Transitioning is new and experimental.

                          It is 2026. You are a transgender adult or child listening to the NYT and British Guardian claim this is the first generation anyone has tried transitioning in. Transitioning is new and experimental.

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                          #22

                          @CharlotteEowyn
                          It's the 19th century America civil war, you're "Mrs. Nash" (sorry I can't find her first name), trans/intersex woman and friend to George Custer and his wife Libbie. You do not wish to be undressed after you pass when you fall badly ill...
                          Transitioning is new and experimental.

                          it's the 16th / 17th century, you're the gender nonconforming (it's hard to put any assignment to them as they dressed and acted masculine but how they identified is harder to say) Mary Frith / Mol Cutpurse / Tom Faconer. Gender non conformity (and transition) is new and experimental.

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                          • nelson@wetdry.worldN nelson@wetdry.world

                            @CharlotteEowyn where's my wendy carlos 😞

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                            #23

                            @nelson @CharlotteEowyn

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                            • charlotteeowyn@chaosfem.twC charlotteeowyn@chaosfem.tw

                              It is 222 A.D. You are the transgender Empress Elagabalus, "call me not a man for I am a woman". Transitioning is new and experimental.

                              It is 1776. You are "Public Universal Friend", a transmasculine nonbinary Quaker. Transitioning is new and experimental.

                              It is 1906. You are Karl M. Baer, a trans man undergoing sex reassignment. Transitioning is new and experimental.

                              It is 1930. You are Lili Elbe. Transitioning is new and experimental. (to be fair you did get a uterus transplant.)

                              It is 1966. You are in Compton's Cafeteria with a bunch of other trans people when the owners call the cops to throw you all out. You riot. Transitioning is new and experimental.

                              It is 1969. You are Marsha "pay it no mind" Johnson. You are in a mob-run gay bar when the cops attack. You throw a brick. There is a bit of a scuffle. Transitioning is new and experimental.

                              It is 2026. You are a transgender adult or child listening to the NYT and British Guardian claim this is the first generation anyone has tried transitioning in. Transitioning is new and experimental.

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                              #24

                              @CharlotteEowyn this is amazing thank you so much for putting it together. Got me right in the feels, as they said last year.

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                              • cosmicktrigger@mastodon.socialC cosmicktrigger@mastodon.social

                                @CharlotteEowyn

                                When did Wendy Carlos (inventer of the Moog synthesizer and who experimented with computers playing music) transition publicly? I believe it was the 70s.

                                Also, a Bond girl was trans and Playboy, in the 70s, featured a pictorial by a trans woman.

                                One more thing: because the Stonewall was run by the mob, the cops used the RICO act as justification for the raid. I

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                                #25

                                @CosmickTrigger @CharlotteEowyn Caroline Cossey played an extra in "For Your Eyes Only", calling her a Bond Girl is a lot of a stretch

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                                • miriamrobern@dice.campM miriamrobern@dice.camp

                                  @CharlotteEowyn i did a relatively thorough media search and purported surprise at the existence of trans people crops up every eighteen months (i think?) back to the invention of newspapers. anyway, its a constant staple of the news and always has been.

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                                  #26

                                  @miriamrobern @CharlotteEowyn
                                  You can always rely on the news to tell us that nobody wants to work anymore, kids are more disrespectful than they used to be, and trans people are new and scary.

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                                  • tartley@fosstodon.orgT tartley@fosstodon.org

                                    @CharlotteEowyn this is amazing thank you so much for putting it together. Got me right in the feels, as they said last year.

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                                    #27

                                    @CharlotteEowyn now you've got me thinking, and I'm wondering about producing my own version in places my in laws will see it. (a) Do you mind? I would always attribute with a link. But I would also be compelled to research and reword things as I went, it is my curse. (b) I realize the following contradicts the canonical form, but in this case I wonder if it would become more effective done in reverse chronological order? I shall experiment! 🤗

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                                    • charlotteeowyn@chaosfem.twC charlotteeowyn@chaosfem.tw

                                      It is 222 A.D. You are the transgender Empress Elagabalus, "call me not a man for I am a woman". Transitioning is new and experimental.

                                      It is 1776. You are "Public Universal Friend", a transmasculine nonbinary Quaker. Transitioning is new and experimental.

                                      It is 1906. You are Karl M. Baer, a trans man undergoing sex reassignment. Transitioning is new and experimental.

                                      It is 1930. You are Lili Elbe. Transitioning is new and experimental. (to be fair you did get a uterus transplant.)

                                      It is 1966. You are in Compton's Cafeteria with a bunch of other trans people when the owners call the cops to throw you all out. You riot. Transitioning is new and experimental.

                                      It is 1969. You are Marsha "pay it no mind" Johnson. You are in a mob-run gay bar when the cops attack. You throw a brick. There is a bit of a scuffle. Transitioning is new and experimental.

                                      It is 2026. You are a transgender adult or child listening to the NYT and British Guardian claim this is the first generation anyone has tried transitioning in. Transitioning is new and experimental.

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                                      #28

                                      @CharlotteEowyn https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kate_Bornstein is another person to add to the list

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                                      • thatonepersonwithaface@todon.euT thatonepersonwithaface@todon.eu

                                        @nelson @CharlotteEowyn

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                                        #29

                                        @Thatonepersonwithaface @CharlotteEowyn yes exactly

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                                        • charlotteeowyn@chaosfem.twC charlotteeowyn@chaosfem.tw

                                          It is 222 A.D. You are the transgender Empress Elagabalus, "call me not a man for I am a woman". Transitioning is new and experimental.

                                          It is 1776. You are "Public Universal Friend", a transmasculine nonbinary Quaker. Transitioning is new and experimental.

                                          It is 1906. You are Karl M. Baer, a trans man undergoing sex reassignment. Transitioning is new and experimental.

                                          It is 1930. You are Lili Elbe. Transitioning is new and experimental. (to be fair you did get a uterus transplant.)

                                          It is 1966. You are in Compton's Cafeteria with a bunch of other trans people when the owners call the cops to throw you all out. You riot. Transitioning is new and experimental.

                                          It is 1969. You are Marsha "pay it no mind" Johnson. You are in a mob-run gay bar when the cops attack. You throw a brick. There is a bit of a scuffle. Transitioning is new and experimental.

                                          It is 2026. You are a transgender adult or child listening to the NYT and British Guardian claim this is the first generation anyone has tried transitioning in. Transitioning is new and experimental.

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                                          #30

                                          @CharlotteEowyn Generally speaking, human rights keep being new and experimental.

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