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"I just found out that it's been hallucinating numbers this entire time."

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  • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

    "I just found out that it's been hallucinating numbers this entire time."

    #AI #Tech #AgenticAI

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    #80

    @Natasha_Jay its not magic its a tool / if you don't understand marh, a scientific calculator does you no good / sounding like a bunch of boomers its 2026 yall / learn the tools before you deploy

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    • sodiboo@gaysex.cloudS sodiboo@gaysex.cloud

      @drahardja@sfba.social @indigoviolet@tech.lgbt ...why? people can just... not click the link?

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      #81

      @sodiboo @drahardja @indigoviolet the reason I know of for breaking the link (by using hxxp) is when you don’t want to contribute referrer data to the linked site. Reddit doesn’t need to know we’re talking about them.

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      • maniaclives@mastodon.worldM maniaclives@mastodon.world

        @sodiboo @drahardja @indigoviolet the reason I know of for breaking the link (by using hxxp) is when you don’t want to contribute referrer data to the linked site. Reddit doesn’t need to know we’re talking about them.

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        #82

        @maniaclives @sodiboo @indigoviolet Correct. Referrer attribution, plus it prevents your server (or your local machine) from pulling or showing a preview from the site.

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        • drahardja@sfba.socialD drahardja@sfba.social

          @Natasha_Jay This part in the original post is fantastic:

          “The worst part I raised concerns about needing validation in November and got told I was slowing down innovation.”

          hxxps://www.reddit.com/r/analytics/comments/1r4dsq2/we_just_found_out_our_ai_has_been_making_up/

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          #83

          @drahardja @Natasha_Jay any idea why the moderators deleted the post?

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          • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

            "I just found out that it's been hallucinating numbers this entire time."

            #AI #Tech #AgenticAI

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            #84

            @Natasha_Jay Saying it is hallucinating gives it too much intellectual credit. It is incapable of hallucinating. GenAI bullshits patterns into something that has a probability of looking like what was requested. A model doesn't know right or wrong. It doesn't understand anything. It doesn't think. It bullshits. This firm implemented a bullshitter that has no intelligence and are somehow surprised that it has been producing bullshit.

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            • craigduncan@mastodon.auC craigduncan@mastodon.au

              @Natasha_Jay

              Source is here for anyone interested in it

              https://www.reddit.com/r/analytics/comments/1r4dsq2/we_just_found_out_our_ai_has_been_making_up/

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              #85

              @craigduncan @Natasha_Jay post was removed by mods. here's a screenshot of the full text

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              • stragu@mastodon.indie.hostS stragu@mastodon.indie.host

                @drahardja @Natasha_Jay any idea why the moderators deleted the post?

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                #86

                @stragu @Natasha_Jay No idea.

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                • ghostonthehalfshell@masto.aiG ghostonthehalfshell@masto.ai

                  @dropbear @Natasha_Jay

                  By the way, always delighted to see what is to my understanding a classic prank Auzzies play on tourists

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                  #87

                  @GhostOnTheHalfShell @dropbear if only dropbears were a prank.
                  Poor Hans, Svetlana, Xie, Bharati and Chuck.
                  And not to mention the hoopsnake victims.. 😢

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                  • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                    "I just found out that it's been hallucinating numbers this entire time."

                    #AI #Tech #AgenticAI

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                    #88

                    @Natasha_Jay
                    LOLz🤣
                    When will people learn to not overly trust AI🙄

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                    • catbrainz@retro.pizzaC catbrainz@retro.pizza

                      @Natasha_Jay what seemed crazy to me reading the comments on the reddit post is that so many answers were like "no you can't do it that way, you need to <bunch of extra, convoluted and unnecessary work> to use that tool properly in that context" and to me it's like ok so.....you have to jump through all those hoops to justify using a tool that doesn't actually make anything easier for you.....why? To look like you're following innovation? God I'm glad I no longer work anywhere remotely related to tech right now.

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                      #89

                      @catbrainz @Natasha_Jay did this post just get deleted? search isn't digging it up for me

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                      • glyph@mastodon.socialG glyph@mastodon.social

                        @catbrainz @Natasha_Jay did this post just get deleted? search isn't digging it up for me

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                        #90

                        @catbrainz @Natasha_Jay ah. yes. here it is, deleted, although folks can read comments still apparently https://www.reddit.com/r/analytics/comments/1r4dsq2/we_just_found_out_our_ai_has_been_making_up/

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                        • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                          "I just found out that it's been hallucinating numbers this entire time."

                          #AI #Tech #AgenticAI

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                          #91

                          @Natasha_Jay also an example of wise men not liking math. Tabulating data and doing calculations is too tedious. Give me a simple summary in English. I'll make snap judgements with the help of gut instincts or masculine intuition.

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                          • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                            "I just found out that it's been hallucinating numbers this entire time."

                            #AI #Tech #AgenticAI

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                            #92

                            @Natasha_Jay A lot of people are of the opinion that AI is useful but you have to check the results. I get this at work all the time. This would be an argument for using it (not a particularly good one but still) if I didn’t know just how bad people are at checking and proof reading anything. Humans make errors all the time but the volume of errors is constrained by our output speed. AIs aren’t constrained so we have no hope of keeping up with their output to check it.

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                            • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                              "I just found out that it's been hallucinating numbers this entire time."

                              #AI #Tech #AgenticAI

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                              #93

                              @Natasha_Jay how did they caught it by accident? Isn't that one of the first steps you do with data to check if it actually works?
                              So they could have just hired some random who will throw dice and even that would be a more sound business decision because at least then you have someone who takes accountability?
                              All these people worked with the data and not once did it click that the data doesn't align with their previous data?

                              Something about AI makes people turn off their brain

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                              • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                                "I just found out that it's been hallucinating numbers this entire time."

                                #AI #Tech #AgenticAI

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                                #94
                                @Natasha_Jay@tech.lgbt
                                What did people think the "generative" in "Generative AI Tool" meant?

                                I fail to see how that is wrong. It is a computer program doing exactly what it was programmed to do. Its programmer doesn't know what exactly is in that code, doesn't change that fact.
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                                • jwdt@mastodon.socialJ jwdt@mastodon.social

                                  @cmthiede @Natasha_Jay in this case I thought what they're paying for was mostly plausible deniability and blame shifting when investors find out that the numbers you showed them were 20x better than reality.

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                                  #95

                                  @cmthiede @Natasha_Jay @jwdt hm surely the investors then pulls out the "due diligence" argument.

                                  If you are so stupid to trust an AI and even more stupid of expecting other people to pay for that then surely you're lacking above mentioned due diligence and are unable to lead a company

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                                  • davidr@hachyderm.ioD davidr@hachyderm.io

                                    @Epic_Null @Natasha_Jay That's bad, but honestly--switching to a new system without ever double checking anything?

                                    Everyone involved should be fired, including the #AI

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                                    #96

                                    @Epic_Null @Natasha_Jay @davidr yeah it's a system failure.
                                    the failure is so bad you need to investigate how such a bad decision could have ever been made and you need to change your process

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                                    • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                                      "I just found out that it's been hallucinating numbers this entire time."

                                      #AI #Tech #AgenticAI

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                                      #97

                                      @Natasha_Jay
                                      Well, AI for professionals & experts is a tool for the expert who is in charge and responsible.
                                      The kind of use of AI described here is for *general public* AI, i.e. where the user has no idea how correct it is & shouldn't even have to care as long as it is reasonably plausible.
                                      Professionals, experts & businesses can NEVER blame the "AI" for the hallucinations they take as truth. 🤷

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                                      • drahardja@sfba.socialD drahardja@sfba.social

                                        @Natasha_Jay This part in the original post is fantastic:

                                        “The worst part I raised concerns about needing validation in November and got told I was slowing down innovation.”

                                        hxxps://www.reddit.com/r/analytics/comments/1r4dsq2/we_just_found_out_our_ai_has_been_making_up/

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                                        #98

                                        @Natasha_Jay @drahardja some people really don't grasp what innovation is. Randomly running in a random direction is not innovation.

                                        Surely the same people think the luddites just had a dislike for looms or something

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                                        • maniaclives@mastodon.worldM maniaclives@mastodon.world

                                          @sodiboo @drahardja @indigoviolet the reason I know of for breaking the link (by using hxxp) is when you don’t want to contribute referrer data to the linked site. Reddit doesn’t need to know we’re talking about them.

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                                          #99

                                          @sodiboo @drahardja @indigoviolet @maniaclives i usually just put a space at an obvious location
                                          otherwise readers might spend forever looking for the mistake

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