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"I just found out that it's been hallucinating numbers this entire time."

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  • davidr@hachyderm.ioD davidr@hachyderm.io

    @Epic_Null @Natasha_Jay That's bad, but honestly--switching to a new system without ever double checking anything?

    Everyone involved should be fired, including the #AI

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    #96

    @Epic_Null @Natasha_Jay @davidr yeah it's a system failure.
    the failure is so bad you need to investigate how such a bad decision could have ever been made and you need to change your process

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    • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

      "I just found out that it's been hallucinating numbers this entire time."

      #AI #Tech #AgenticAI

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      #97

      @Natasha_Jay
      Well, AI for professionals & experts is a tool for the expert who is in charge and responsible.
      The kind of use of AI described here is for *general public* AI, i.e. where the user has no idea how correct it is & shouldn't even have to care as long as it is reasonably plausible.
      Professionals, experts & businesses can NEVER blame the "AI" for the hallucinations they take as truth. 🤷

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      • drahardja@sfba.socialD drahardja@sfba.social

        @Natasha_Jay This part in the original post is fantastic:

        “The worst part I raised concerns about needing validation in November and got told I was slowing down innovation.”

        hxxps://www.reddit.com/r/analytics/comments/1r4dsq2/we_just_found_out_our_ai_has_been_making_up/

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        #98

        @Natasha_Jay @drahardja some people really don't grasp what innovation is. Randomly running in a random direction is not innovation.

        Surely the same people think the luddites just had a dislike for looms or something

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        • maniaclives@mastodon.worldM maniaclives@mastodon.world

          @sodiboo @drahardja @indigoviolet the reason I know of for breaking the link (by using hxxp) is when you don’t want to contribute referrer data to the linked site. Reddit doesn’t need to know we’re talking about them.

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          #99

          @sodiboo @drahardja @indigoviolet @maniaclives i usually just put a space at an obvious location
          otherwise readers might spend forever looking for the mistake

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          • nickboss@defcon.socialN nickboss@defcon.social

            @Natasha_Jay

            The only use of ai my company has successfully implemented is having it write emails to dead leads.

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            #100

            @NickBoss @Natasha_Jay
            Oh jeez, is THAT where all my SPAM is coming from?!!?

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            • taurus@thicc.horseT taurus@thicc.horse

              @Natasha_Jay how did they caught it by accident? Isn't that one of the first steps you do with data to check if it actually works?
              So they could have just hired some random who will throw dice and even that would be a more sound business decision because at least then you have someone who takes accountability?
              All these people worked with the data and not once did it click that the data doesn't align with their previous data?

              Something about AI makes people turn off their brain

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              #101

              @taurus @Natasha_Jay Wait, "plausible sounding percentages" is not enough checking?

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              • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                "I just found out that it's been hallucinating numbers this entire time."

                #AI #Tech #AgenticAI

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                #102

                @Natasha_Jay This really is a major issue with #AI.

                Even if you use things like #Gemini "Deep Research", it still loves to make things up it couldn't research properly. For instance, I once tried to use it for researching axle ratios of cars and every time I've repeated the same request, it came up with different numbers.

                (It can come up with decent results though for topics where lots of scientific papers are available, like life cycle emissions of vehicles with different propulsion types.)

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                • drahardja@sfba.socialD drahardja@sfba.social

                  @stragu @Natasha_Jay No idea.

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                  #103

                  @stragu @Natasha_Jay @drahardja someone says its AI generated, maybe that?

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                  • G goedelchen@mastodontech.de

                    @taurus @Natasha_Jay Wait, "plausible sounding percentages" is not enough checking?

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                    #104

                    @Natasha_Jay @goedelchen uh no perhaps one should actually check

                    you know... the things a business does since... ever? Since the invention of business you are having an eye on the operation

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                    • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                      "I just found out that it's been hallucinating numbers this entire time."

                      #AI #Tech #AgenticAI

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                      #105

                      @Natasha_Jay "Flounder, you can't spend your whole life worrying about your mistakes! You fucked ed up. You trusted us! Hey, make the best of it!"

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                      • taurus@thicc.horseT taurus@thicc.horse

                        @Natasha_Jay @goedelchen uh no perhaps one should actually check

                        you know... the things a business does since... ever? Since the invention of business you are having an eye on the operation

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                        #106

                        @Natasha_Jay @goedelchen ah I think I answered too seriouy
                        may I advice using a /s when saying things the average stupid person would write non-jokingly

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                        • quantillion@mstdn.ioQ quantillion@mstdn.io

                          @Natasha_Jay
                          Well, AI for professionals & experts is a tool for the expert who is in charge and responsible.
                          The kind of use of AI described here is for *general public* AI, i.e. where the user has no idea how correct it is & shouldn't even have to care as long as it is reasonably plausible.
                          Professionals, experts & businesses can NEVER blame the "AI" for the hallucinations they take as truth. 🤷

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                          #107

                          @Quantillion @Natasha_Jay No, an LLM is a toddler that has been reading a lot of books but don’t understand any of them and just likes words that are next to other words, and then you need to be very precise and provide a lot of details in your questions to make it answer anything close to correct, and the next time you ask the same thing the answer is probably different.

                          But yes, the user bears responsibility as the adult in the relationship.

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                          • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                            "I just found out that it's been hallucinating numbers this entire time."

                            #AI #Tech #AgenticAI

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                            #108

                            @Natasha_Jay Sounds plausible.

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                            • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                              "I just found out that it's been hallucinating numbers this entire time."

                              #AI #Tech #AgenticAI

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                              #109

                              @Natasha_Jay
                              He he they are using randomization to make chat bot look more "intelligent"
                              See this:
                              https://towardsdatascience.com/llms-are-randomized-algorithms/

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                              • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                                "I just found out that it's been hallucinating numbers this entire time."

                                #AI #Tech #AgenticAI

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                                #110

                                @Natasha_Jay@tech.lgbt don't trust an llm for anything other than what 1 + 1 is, like NONE of these check themselves and just make things up if there's no solution. and if not ran locally, pretty bad.

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                                • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                                  "I just found out that it's been hallucinating numbers this entire time."

                                  #AI #Tech #AgenticAI

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                                  #111

                                  @Natasha_Jay@tech.lgbt Who would have thought that an algorithm to generate answer shaped noise would produce something with the factual value of dummy text.

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                                  • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                                    "I just found out that it's been hallucinating numbers this entire time."

                                    #AI #Tech #AgenticAI

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                                    #112

                                    @Natasha_Jay Vibe work is not work.

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                                    • davidr@hachyderm.ioD davidr@hachyderm.io

                                      @Epic_Null @Natasha_Jay That's bad, but honestly--switching to a new system without ever double checking anything?

                                      Everyone involved should be fired, including the #AI

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                                      #113

                                      @davidr @Epic_Null @Natasha_Jay Fire the bloody management. They keep pushing for "use more AI". If you don't, you are considered to not be a team player, be obstructive, hinder the company and all these things.

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                                      • taurus@thicc.horseT taurus@thicc.horse

                                        @Epic_Null @Natasha_Jay @davidr yeah it's a system failure.
                                        the failure is so bad you need to investigate how such a bad decision could have ever been made and you need to change your process

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                                        #114

                                        @taurus @Epic_Null @Natasha_Jay @davidr but... But... That would lead right up to the board of directors and shareholders. These people are by definition faultless. The eminent purpose of a corporation is to extract wealth without consequences reaching this select group of shitheads.

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                                        • natasha_jay@tech.lgbtN natasha_jay@tech.lgbt

                                          "I just found out that it's been hallucinating numbers this entire time."

                                          #AI #Tech #AgenticAI

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                                          #115

                                          @Natasha_Jay

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