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  • volpeon@icy.wyvern.ripV volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip

    WebUSB
    WebGPU
    WebPCIE
    WebNVME
    WebSATA
    WebATX12V

    neon@catgirl.centerN This user is from outside of this forum
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    #10

    @volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip Web12VHPWR


    OH GOD ITS BURNING

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    • littlefox@gotosocial-dev.svc.0x0a.networkL littlefox@gotosocial-dev.svc.0x0a.network

      @manawyrm @volpeon oh no

      manawyrm@chaos.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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      #11

      @littlefox @volpeon

      if you don't know more details: be thankful for that and pretend you didn't hear anything.

      if you do know more details: i'm truely sorry for you.

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      • manawyrm@chaos.socialM manawyrm@chaos.social

        @littlefox @volpeon

        if you don't know more details: be thankful for that and pretend you didn't hear anything.

        if you do know more details: i'm truely sorry for you.

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        #12

        @manawyrm @volpeon tell me more. I crave more.

        manawyrm@chaos.socialM elfin@mstdn.socialE 2 Antworten Letzte Antwort
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        • volpeon@icy.wyvern.ripV volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip

          WebUSB
          WebGPU
          WebPCIE
          WebNVME
          WebSATA
          WebATX12V

          mica@mk.absturztau.beM This user is from outside of this forum
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          #13

          @volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip Power over WebSocket

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          • littlefox@gotosocial-dev.svc.0x0a.networkL littlefox@gotosocial-dev.svc.0x0a.network

            @volpeon

            WebSPI
            WebBIOS
            WebUEFI

            volpeon@icy.wyvern.ripV This user is from outside of this forum
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            #14

            @littlefox WebRing0

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            • volpeon@icy.wyvern.ripV volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip

              @littlefox WebRing0

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              #15

              @volpeon WebSMM

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              • volpeon@icy.wyvern.ripV volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip

                WebUSB
                WebGPU
                WebPCIE
                WebNVME
                WebSATA
                WebATX12V

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                #16

                @volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip WebExpressCard

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                • littlefox@gotosocial-dev.svc.0x0a.networkL littlefox@gotosocial-dev.svc.0x0a.network

                  @volpeon

                  WebSPI
                  WebBIOS
                  WebUEFI

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                  #17

                  @littlefox@gotosocial-dev.svc.0x0a.network @volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip ​​

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                  • littlefox@gotosocial-dev.svc.0x0a.networkL littlefox@gotosocial-dev.svc.0x0a.network

                    @manawyrm @volpeon tell me more. I crave more.

                    manawyrm@chaos.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #18

                    @littlefox @volpeon
                    *sigh*
                    OK, you wanted it:

                    AMI MegaRAC (the BMC web UI for servers) has this feature where they allow you to select a .iso image for a CD-ROM in the web console (next to the KVM/VNC viewer).

                    How did they implement the CD-ROM emulation?
                    They open a WebSockets connection to the BMC, emulate a SCSI CD-ROM drive in JavaScript (!) and send raw SCSI packets back&forth via WebSockets, which the BMC then forwards via internal USB to the host system.

                    littlefox@gotosocial-dev.svc.0x0a.networkL awooo@floofy.techA elfin@mstdn.socialE mxshift@social.treehouse.systemsM ellie@ellieayla.netE 7 Antworten Letzte Antwort
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                    • volpeon@icy.wyvern.ripV volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip

                      WebUSB
                      WebGPU
                      WebPCIE
                      WebNVME
                      WebSATA
                      WebATX12V

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                      #19

                      @volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip WebDOCSIS

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                      • manawyrm@chaos.socialM manawyrm@chaos.social

                        @littlefox @volpeon
                        *sigh*
                        OK, you wanted it:

                        AMI MegaRAC (the BMC web UI for servers) has this feature where they allow you to select a .iso image for a CD-ROM in the web console (next to the KVM/VNC viewer).

                        How did they implement the CD-ROM emulation?
                        They open a WebSockets connection to the BMC, emulate a SCSI CD-ROM drive in JavaScript (!) and send raw SCSI packets back&forth via WebSockets, which the BMC then forwards via internal USB to the host system.

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                        #20

                        @manawyrm @volpeon oh goth it's beautiful I love it

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                        • littlefox@gotosocial-dev.svc.0x0a.networkL littlefox@gotosocial-dev.svc.0x0a.network

                          @manawyrm @volpeon oh goth it's beautiful I love it

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                          #21

                          @littlefox @volpeon less fortunate: they also fucked up the permissions checks on that websocket in a bunch of BMCs.

                          You can send arbitrary SCSI packets to the host system with this mechanism...
                          Both Linux and Windows really aren't hardened against evil block storage devices.

                          Imagine the rest of the story.

                          littlefox@gotosocial-dev.svc.0x0a.networkL athenas@hachyderm.ioA spacekatia@girlcock.clubS wildduck@mamot.frW lino@chaos.socialL 6 Antworten Letzte Antwort
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                          • manawyrm@chaos.socialM manawyrm@chaos.social

                            @littlefox @volpeon less fortunate: they also fucked up the permissions checks on that websocket in a bunch of BMCs.

                            You can send arbitrary SCSI packets to the host system with this mechanism...
                            Both Linux and Windows really aren't hardened against evil block storage devices.

                            Imagine the rest of the story.

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                            #22

                            @manawyrm @volpeon gnihihihihihi 😆

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                            • manawyrm@chaos.socialM manawyrm@chaos.social

                              @littlefox @volpeon less fortunate: they also fucked up the permissions checks on that websocket in a bunch of BMCs.

                              You can send arbitrary SCSI packets to the host system with this mechanism...
                              Both Linux and Windows really aren't hardened against evil block storage devices.

                              Imagine the rest of the story.

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                              @manawyrm @littlefox @volpeon It sounds bad but is it really? If you have BMC access you would be able to do all sorts of evil things already.
                              Unless there is an ACL system which pretends this is “safe”…

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                              • manawyrm@chaos.socialM manawyrm@chaos.social

                                @littlefox @volpeon less fortunate: they also fucked up the permissions checks on that websocket in a bunch of BMCs.

                                You can send arbitrary SCSI packets to the host system with this mechanism...
                                Both Linux and Windows really aren't hardened against evil block storage devices.

                                Imagine the rest of the story.

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                                #24

                                @manawyrm this is beautiful o.o

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                                • athenas@hachyderm.ioA athenas@hachyderm.io

                                  @manawyrm @littlefox @volpeon It sounds bad but is it really? If you have BMC access you would be able to do all sorts of evil things already.
                                  Unless there is an ACL system which pretends this is “safe”…

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                                  #25

                                  @athenas @littlefox @volpeon Yes, there is access control with username/password or even LDAP, which might be used by badly informed users.

                                  But yes, the correct response is to _ALWAYS_ firewall and heavily isolate BMCs, consider them hostile and dangerous at all times.

                                  Their firmware is sooo shoddily written that they're basically remote code execution as a service.

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                                  • manawyrm@chaos.socialM manawyrm@chaos.social

                                    @athenas @littlefox @volpeon Yes, there is access control with username/password or even LDAP, which might be used by badly informed users.

                                    But yes, the correct response is to _ALWAYS_ firewall and heavily isolate BMCs, consider them hostile and dangerous at all times.

                                    Their firmware is sooo shoddily written that they're basically remote code execution as a service.

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                                    #26

                                    @manawyrm @littlefox @volpeon I was thinking of fine-grained ACL, where somebody could get the idea of “just mounting CDROMs is suuurely safe”.

                                    Other than that, that’s my mental model around them as well

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                                    • volpeon@icy.wyvern.ripV volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip

                                      WebUSB
                                      WebGPU
                                      WebPCIE
                                      WebNVME
                                      WebSATA
                                      WebATX12V

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                                      #27

                                      @volpeon WebSCSI

                                      https://chaos.social/@manawyrm/115972694235993598

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                                      • volpeon@icy.wyvern.ripV volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip

                                        WebUSB
                                        WebGPU
                                        WebPCIE
                                        WebNVME
                                        WebSATA
                                        WebATX12V

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                                        #28

                                        @volpeon there's also WebSerial.

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                                        • volpeon@icy.wyvern.ripV volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip

                                          WebUSB
                                          WebGPU
                                          WebPCIE
                                          WebNVME
                                          WebSATA
                                          WebATX12V

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                                          #29

                                          @volpeon@icy.wyvern.rip WEBYuri anyone?

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