We’ve moved our internal communications from Discord to Zulip at Mastodon, and I think there are plans to do the same for our Patreon community Discord.

[d1@autistics.life]

@darwinwoodka @grishka @Gargron I'm with you in spirit here, but I seriously doubt this, considering the actual teens I know, and how "path of least resistance" they are. Alas, no #ElbowsUp for these heel-dragging #Canadian teens I know! I'll believe it when I see it.

[d1@autistics.life]

@csolisr @Gargron @kerfuffle a highly relevant question

[grishka@friends.grishka.me]

Sam, so what happens if a porn site doesn't have any presence (e.g. a legal entity) in the UK, but doesn't ask for IDs either?

[phillip@social.lol]

@64bithero @Gargron does Stoat have voice chat? I can’t find anything about that, so I assume it doesn’t

[fasnix@fe.disroot.org]

@64bithero @Gargron

For pure voice chat: what about good ol' Mumble?

[64bithero@mstdn.games]

@phillip @Gargron for the record a few apps do offer voice chat but most that do have a Skype style call system. Stoat is the only one I know of that offers a drop in drop out style voice server like Discord has. And it’s why it’s my favorite choice

[phillip@social.lol]

@64bithero @Gargron oooh that’s tempting. I tried it a while back when it was still Revolt, but they didn’t have voice chat yet. I’ll have to try it again after work today

[sam@break3.social]

@grishka@friends.grishka.me @Gargron@mastodon.social If they refuse to ID people they can get 'fines of up to £18 million or 10% of qualifying worldwide revenue' whichever is bigger.

It's sadly not just porn sites but also self-help sites, subreddits, communities and all sorts now.

[wolvericcatkin@tech.lgbt]

@Gargron "Well find a way to bring users back..." as a closing statement, feels so gross...

[grishka@friends.grishka.me]

Sam, yeah but how could that be enforced against a foreign entity? (maybe it's a stupid question, idk)

[hlrx@techhub.social]

@Gargron Check out Teamspeak with their new version. Otherwise, stick with the old version with Mumble

[sam@break3.social]

@grishka@friends.grishka.me You can fine foreign entities if they operate in your country. If they don't obey they can get blocked from the whole UK internet, we currently don't have access to Rule34, PornHub (at least the NSFW area) along with a few other NSFW services at all, others are IDed and illegal content has been made easier for children to find as these safer sites are now wiped out. So the OSA has done a lot more damage than fix.

[frankiezafe@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@Gargron thanks for the info, please share your feedback about the zulip. i'm starting a videogame studio, and if i can start clean it would be great!

[diffrentcolours@tech.lgbt]

@Gargron Our Fedi admin discussions moved from Discord to #Zulip a while ago. It's not only sufficient as a replacement, it's actually better.

[masek@infosec.exchange]

@Gargron Not happy about that Patreon statement though .

From my PoV I am paying Patreons share. I roughly know what is deducted and select my tier accordingly.

And for me it is worth the money.

I am backing 25+ projects with Mastodon receiving one of the larger backings (since April 2017, my 10-year-anniversary is around the corner).

I have no chance to track my patronages if those are distributed over dozens of services.

[sassinake@mastodon.social]

@Gargron
anonymity is part of privacy, and privacy is a human right.

[einalex@chaos.social]

@masek so you're actively arguing for a monopoly on donation processing? @Gargron

[draeath@infosec.exchange]

@Gargron @lefteristrip23 this may be relevant (not like using discord was better, heh)

https://social.treehouse.systems/@ariadne/116042443866561242

[mrbranch40@mastodon.world]

@Gargron

Well, another thing I learned a little about today.

https://zulip.com/integrations/mastodon

[baloouriza@social.tulsa.ok.us]

@Gargron And yet @xmpp is right there...