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"Resilience" is a coping strategy, not a virtue.

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  • sashag@anarres.familyS sashag@anarres.family

    "Resilience" is a coping strategy, not a virtue. Celebrating resilience without interrogating the challenges, problems, and structural issues folks are routinely forced to confront runs the risk of idealizing the capacity to suffer.

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    #3

    This was a quote by a Twitter user. But I left Twitter, so I can't check that anymore

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    • anniebuddy@mstdn.caA anniebuddy@mstdn.ca

      @sashag

      I think of "resilience" in terms of the 7 generations of First Nations, Inuit and Metis peoples who have so far avoided the fate that the Indian Act hoped would be the result.

      I think their "resilience" has been addressing those things, but it has been carried through generations.

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      @AnnieBuddy Yes. The quote I posted assumes the privilege that you have some sort of choice. They had not and still haven't.

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      • sashag@anarres.familyS sashag@anarres.family

        "Resilience" is a coping strategy, not a virtue. Celebrating resilience without interrogating the challenges, problems, and structural issues folks are routinely forced to confront runs the risk of idealizing the capacity to suffer.

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        #5

        @sashag I especially hate it described to children. Children are survivors, many with invisible wounds.

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        • sashag@anarres.familyS sashag@anarres.family

          @AnnieBuddy Yes. The quote I posted assumes the privilege that you have some sort of choice. They had not and still haven't.

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          #6

          @sashag @AnnieBuddy I would also like to add, as a First Nations person, that composure has been weaponized in much the same way - they praise you for your composure in the face of ridiculous abuse/neglect/aggression/bullying/racism (and go absolutely bugfuck if you let that drop and they see the “merciless Indian savage”/“wagon burner” underneath)

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          • sashag@anarres.familyS sashag@anarres.family

            "Resilience" is a coping strategy, not a virtue. Celebrating resilience without interrogating the challenges, problems, and structural issues folks are routinely forced to confront runs the risk of idealizing the capacity to suffer.

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            @sashag Not long ago there was a political constituency in primary education circles that idolized the concept. Their pet word was "grit." It was disgusting.

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            • sashag@anarres.familyS sashag@anarres.family

              "Resilience" is a coping strategy, not a virtue. Celebrating resilience without interrogating the challenges, problems, and structural issues folks are routinely forced to confront runs the risk of idealizing the capacity to suffer.

              suneauken@mastodon.worldS This user is from outside of this forum
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              #8

              @sashag

              Ah yes.

              Case in point:
              Resilience is the one quality you can't do without if you want a research career in the university. By consequence, we are all terribly resilient, and the underlying problems that make resilience a necessity can continue unaddressed.

              ...

              Sigh.

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              • sinvega@mas.toS This user is from outside of this forum
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                #9

                @AlexanderVI @sashag damn it, I came here just to do the catholic bit 😠

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                • sashag@anarres.familyS sashag@anarres.family

                  "Resilience" is a coping strategy, not a virtue. Celebrating resilience without interrogating the challenges, problems, and structural issues folks are routinely forced to confront runs the risk of idealizing the capacity to suffer.

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                  #10

                  @sashag see also: cis people telling trans people "you're so brave" without questioning why transition might require "bravery"🫠

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                  • A ar@mstdn.ca

                    @sashag see also: cis people telling trans people "you're so brave" without questioning why transition might require "bravery"🫠

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                    #11

                    @ar True! I often tell people „I’m not brave, I don’t have a choice.“

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                    • sashag@anarres.familyS sashag@anarres.family

                      "Resilience" is a coping strategy, not a virtue. Celebrating resilience without interrogating the challenges, problems, and structural issues folks are routinely forced to confront runs the risk of idealizing the capacity to suffer.

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                      #12

                      @sashag you're so strong.
                      ...
                      I wasn't given a choice 😏

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                      • sashag@anarres.familyS sashag@anarres.family

                        "Resilience" is a coping strategy, not a virtue. Celebrating resilience without interrogating the challenges, problems, and structural issues folks are routinely forced to confront runs the risk of idealizing the capacity to suffer.

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                        #13

                        @sashag "Celebrating Resilience" is just another way of saying #ArbeitMachtFrei".

                        THE WORST IDEA IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD.

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                        • sashag@anarres.familyS sashag@anarres.family

                          "Resilience" is a coping strategy, not a virtue. Celebrating resilience without interrogating the challenges, problems, and structural issues folks are routinely forced to confront runs the risk of idealizing the capacity to suffer.

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                          @sashag hrm. my therapist recently told me that developing resilience is a good thing. ...i'm not sure that word means what she thinks it means...

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                          • rothko@beige.partyR rothko@beige.party

                            @sashag hrm. my therapist recently told me that developing resilience is a good thing. ...i'm not sure that word means what she thinks it means...

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                            #15

                            @rothko There are two meanings indeed. The one your therapist probably talked about is more about protecting yourself from being hit hard by external forces/influences.

                            The other one often used in management and every day discourse is about fighting through/enduring the hardships.

                            So while the first version allows you to decline things you're actually don't want to do or can't do without hurting yourself, the second one frames enduring bad things at all times as a matter of honor, no matter what is the cost.

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                            • sashag@anarres.familyS sashag@anarres.family

                              This was a quote by a Twitter user. But I left Twitter, so I can't check that anymore

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                              #16
                              @sashag It seems to be a quote by Dr. Charisse Burden-Stelly: https://twitter.com/drcbs_/status/1539737405091110912
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                              • sashag@anarres.familyS sashag@anarres.family

                                @rothko There are two meanings indeed. The one your therapist probably talked about is more about protecting yourself from being hit hard by external forces/influences.

                                The other one often used in management and every day discourse is about fighting through/enduring the hardships.

                                So while the first version allows you to decline things you're actually don't want to do or can't do without hurting yourself, the second one frames enduring bad things at all times as a matter of honor, no matter what is the cost.

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                                #17

                                @sashag yeah, i'm sure she was talking about the first one, but i still cringed.

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                                • mkl@florp.socialM mkl@florp.social
                                  @sashag It seems to be a quote by Dr. Charisse Burden-Stelly: https://twitter.com/drcbs_/status/1539737405091110912
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                                  #18

                                  @mkl Thank you!

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                                  • sashag@anarres.familyS sashag@anarres.family

                                    "Resilience" is a coping strategy, not a virtue. Celebrating resilience without interrogating the challenges, problems, and structural issues folks are routinely forced to confront runs the risk of idealizing the capacity to suffer.

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                                    #19

                                    @sashag If I hear the phrase "mental resilience" once more at my office....I'll have heard it once more too many...sigh.

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                                    • rothko@beige.partyR rothko@beige.party

                                      @sashag yeah, i'm sure she was talking about the first one, but i still cringed.

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                                      #20

                                      @rothko It has this connotation. I have a whole conference talk about why "software engineers aren't Klingons". Nobody should have to be "proud" of battle wounds.

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