If you don't want ICE to know you were at a protest, taking a burner phone is not going to help you stay anonymous if you go home afterwards.
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If you don't want ICE to know you were at a protest, taking a burner phone is not going to help you stay anonymous if you go home afterwards. https://www.404media.co/inside-ices-tool-to-monitor-phones-in-entire-neighborhoods/
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If you don't want ICE to know you were at a protest, taking a burner phone is not going to help you stay anonymous if you go home afterwards. https://www.404media.co/inside-ices-tool-to-monitor-phones-in-entire-neighborhoods/
There are other reasons you might want to take a cheap/disposable/burner phone to a protest, such as making sure that if you are arrested, the police don't seize/break/confiscate your main phone.
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There are other reasons you might want to take a cheap/disposable/burner phone to a protest, such as making sure that if you are arrested, the police don't seize/break/confiscate your main phone.
But if it is important to you to maintain your anonymity at a protest, consider leaving your phone at home, or at least turning it on/off only once you are well out of the neighborhood.
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There are other reasons you might want to take a cheap/disposable/burner phone to a protest, such as making sure that if you are arrested, the police don't seize/break/confiscate your main phone.
@evacide I'd be more concerned about Stingrays. I keep thinking encrypted LoRa mesh network devices are a better technology for this kind of situation. Plus, they're completely off the internet and will work even if internet is shut off.
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But if it is important to you to maintain your anonymity at a protest, consider leaving your phone at home, or at least turning it on/off only once you are well out of the neighborhood.
There is no one-size-fits-all solution for digital safety at protests. You need to decide in advance what your goals are, what is important for you to protect, and what is likely to happen to you, and threat model accordingly.
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@evacide I'd be more concerned about Stingrays. I keep thinking encrypted LoRa mesh network devices are a better technology for this kind of situation. Plus, they're completely off the internet and will work even if internet is shut off.
@angiebaby If you are concerned that your local police are using Stingrays at a protest, may I interest you in Rayhunter? https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2025/03/meet-rayhunter-new-open-source-tool-eff-detect-cellular-spying
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But if it is important to you to maintain your anonymity at a protest, consider leaving your phone at home, or at least turning it on/off only once you are well out of the neighborhood.
@evacide turning it off is not enough, unless you can take the battery out. leave it at home.
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If you don't want ICE to know you were at a protest, taking a burner phone is not going to help you stay anonymous if you go home afterwards. https://www.404media.co/inside-ices-tool-to-monitor-phones-in-entire-neighborhoods/
@evacide This post is about the US, not Iran or Russia. It is just stunning how far the US has come.
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There is no one-size-fits-all solution for digital safety at protests. You need to decide in advance what your goals are, what is important for you to protect, and what is likely to happen to you, and threat model accordingly.
@evacide how does this new tool work, I’m not on my machine that’s logged into 404
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There are other reasons you might want to take a cheap/disposable/burner phone to a protest, such as making sure that if you are arrested, the police don't seize/break/confiscate your main phone.
@evacide don't forget that if DO take your phone, disable face and fingerprint authentication and make sure you use a pin that is at least 6 characters long. At the moment it's not illegal for them to use your face or your fingerprints. But it is illegal to force you to give up your pin.
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