100% tariff on the MM/DD/YY date format.
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100% tariff on the MM/DD/YY date format.
@Natasha_Jay@tech.lgbt
Quite right
YYYY MM DD Month Day 23:59 format like sensible filenames.
Easy Peasy to find and divide into yearly folders, subbed into monthly if there are too many.
Plus tariff the crap out of the US Imperial system.
Sell in metric or not at all. I have handy dandy conversion apps and a dual read tape measure.
They HAD to be difficult, not just simplifying the English language into gibberish, but changing the units too.
Frankly the UK had to go metric just to piss the Yanks off; not that we have completely of course.
Note to other replies: the UK has been a hybrid for around 60 years.
The paper size system changed in 1959, A4 replaced foolscap, we didn't use Letter which the Yanks do.
Roads are in miles, beer in pints, shorts in gills and a lot of people think F in hot weather C in cold weather, inches - feet - yards are still commonplace.
A UK Gallon is 8 pints, made up of 20 fluid ounces / 1750ml.
mm I can just about deal with, yes I am old and find fractions easier than decimals. -
@amiserabilist @wendinoakland @renwillis @Natasha_Jay @stux what’re you on about? England uses metric measurements, we (all of the UK not just England) is a hard-metric nation. The only English people using imperial measurements are long dead many generations ago, before decimalisation and the common market.
Britain went decimal in the middle of the reign of Queen Euston, I mean Victoria, with the long-fought for introduction of the Florin, which was our first decimal coin. It kept getting vetoed over and over, since the first proposals some centuries prior to that.@u0421793 @amiserabilist @renwillis @Natasha_Jay @stux And yet the prevalence of “stones” continues
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@u0421793 @amiserabilist @renwillis @Natasha_Jay @stux And yet the prevalence of “stones” continues
i missed the sarcasm too at first:
"Britain went decimal in the middle of the reign of Queen Euston, I mean Victoria, with the long-fought for introduction of the Florin, which was our first decimal coin. It kept getting vetoed over and over, since the first proposals some centuries prior to that."
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100% tariff on the MM/DD/YY date format.
@Natasha_Jay
Totally agree. In fact, I've been saying that since 10/30/98 -
100% tariff on the MM/DD/YY date format.
@Natasha_Jay Also applies to ‘momentarily’ meaning ‘in a short while’ as opposed to ‘for an instant’.
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100% tariff on the MM/DD/YY date format.
@Natasha_Jay @Gargron And on Fahrenheit temperatures.
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@amiserabilist @NickGates @glasspusher It’s SOMEPLACE.
@wendinoakland @amiserabilist @NickGates
No Man did this to me!
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@sloanlance @Natasha_Jay
good idea!let's ban celsius and km/h measurements, and replace them proper metric units. kelvins and m/s.
@zetabeta @Natasha_Jay
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100% tariff on the MM/DD/YY date format.
@Natasha_Jay yes please
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100% tariff on the MM/DD/YY date format.
@Natasha_Jay the MM/DD/YY format always seemed the dumbest way to write the date and really irritates me when something defaults to it
There is no logic to it as far as I can see
DD/MM/YY and YY/MM/DD at least have logic to their layouts
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100% tariff on the MM/DD/YY date format.
@Natasha_Jay That actually makes sense and therefore will never happen in today’s crazy world.
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100% tariff on the MM/DD/YY date format.
@Natasha_Jay YES!!!!! It is so confusing. DD/MM/YY is totally logical.
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100% tariff on the MM/DD/YY date format.
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@Natasha_Jay I would wage an actual war on the MM/DD/YY format, but it would be confused about when the war even began.
Start it on 26/01/26. In longer date formats it is expressed as the day after Haggis Day. (-:
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@Natasha_Jay I eagerly await the positive impacts this tariff would have in the computer firmware industry
The fun part of that is that a necessary pre-cursor would be going back to get ISO 8601:1988 ratified almost a decade earlier than it was in our universe.
The sad part is that, conversely, in our universe ANSI X3.30-1971 and FIPS PUB 4 had standardized YYYYMMDD years before the IBM PC was invented.
#ISO8601 #DateFormats #TimeTravel #retrocomputing #FIPS #ANSI #FIPSPub4
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@Natasha_Jay "I used to not be political until the radical left started forcing DD/MM/YY down our throats, now for some reason I have strong opinions on the value of an ethnically diverse society."
ANSI X3.30-1971 (YYYYMMDD) was indeed ratified during the administration of that well-known Commie radical, #RichardNixon.
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@vonxylofon but when I wear a watch (which is every day), and my train leaves at 18h, I don’t want to have to do math while looking at my watch to see if I’m going to be on time or not.
@zed @vonxylofon
Math?
18:00 is 6PM. I don't know anyone who can't auto subtract 12 from a number over 12.
14:00 = 2pm. 23:35 = 11:35pm
.Then most people in the UK / Europe have probably been doing this since the 1980s (didgital watches became cheap enough for most people to have one).
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@u0421793 @Natasha_Jay @stux @amiserabilist @wendinoakland can’t tell if your joking. Last time we toured Scotland “miles” were everywhere.
In seriousness: We mostly are metric in the U.K.. It's just that people *loudly* point to road signs and beer. Those are, though, the only 2 things left.
Even then, it's not even all road signs. The Driver Location Signs, a system introduced fast approaching a quarter of a century ago, on our motorways are in #metric. New/replacement low bridge signs have to give metric primacy now. (Some private signage, such on some filling station forecourts built within recent decades, give clearances *only* in metric.)
Wines, spirits, soft drinks and of course the (fossil) fuels for our cars are in millilitres and litres. D-I-Y is in millimetres and square metres. Most of life from spanners and USB cables through tyre tread depths and light bulb luminescences to medicines and butter is metric.
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100% tariff on the MM/DD/YY date format.
@Natasha_Jay
Just start phasing it out over the next few years.
DD/MM/YYYY or YYYY/MM/DD I can get behind.
Never did understand the month first nonsense. -
In seriousness: We mostly are metric in the U.K.. It's just that people *loudly* point to road signs and beer. Those are, though, the only 2 things left.
Even then, it's not even all road signs. The Driver Location Signs, a system introduced fast approaching a quarter of a century ago, on our motorways are in #metric. New/replacement low bridge signs have to give metric primacy now. (Some private signage, such on some filling station forecourts built within recent decades, give clearances *only* in metric.)
Wines, spirits, soft drinks and of course the (fossil) fuels for our cars are in millilitres and litres. D-I-Y is in millimetres and square metres. Most of life from spanners and USB cables through tyre tread depths and light bulb luminescences to medicines and butter is metric.
@JdeBP @renwillis @Natasha_Jay @stux @amiserabilist @wendinoakland in a Hard Metric nation such as the UK, measurements may well be given in both forms, SI units and the older Imperial, but the metric indication will be given first, and the outmoded indication will be given in brackets, afterwards. For example, the English measurements might be:
250ml (1 household utensil you might randomly have in your cupboard)
1l (42 hands)
750mm (56.3 horses)
56.3km (750 ankle chains)
720nm (1 sunny day)
0.5cm (your dick)
600kg (42 cats)
Then we get onto the proper stuff – paper sizes
A1 folds in half to give you A2 which folds in half to give you A3, which folds in half to give you A4, which folds in half to give you A5, which etc.
Do you really want to see the absurdity of the old paper sizes invented by basically cretins? Yes? Here then:
baph.org.uk/resources/reference-material/old-english-paper-sizes/
(Admittedly a lot of those sizes were for books rather than actual reams you’d encounter casually, but still…)
