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This is something that probably sounds obvious to some folks and unhinged to others, but I think it’s worth saying anyway: “workers who don’t adopt AI will get left behind” is right-wing propaganda.

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  • jnkrtech@social.treehouse.systemsJ jnkrtech@social.treehouse.systems

    This is something that probably sounds obvious to some folks and unhinged to others, but I think it’s worth saying anyway: “workers who don’t adopt AI will get left behind” is right-wing propaganda. It’s more than just a surface-level advertising message. It makes the unstated assumption that workers are all in a state of conflict, racing against one another in competition for acceptable employment. This is the literal opposite of class consciousness! All workers should be aiming for a world where we don’t have to fight each other to earn a chance at a decent life.

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    #11

    @jnkrtech

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    • jnkrtech@social.treehouse.systemsJ jnkrtech@social.treehouse.systems

      Highly-trained LLMs are a form of capital. They are produced by extracting knowledge from text which workers have made, and they cannot be made practically useful without vast compute expenditures. The companies which make them seek to recoup their costs by renting them out, primarily to corporations which want to use them to reduce the number of workers which they employ. The facts are straightforward, and the net effect is a wealth transfer from workers to owners.

      Current attempts at producing large-scale social or economic transformations via generative AI are an unavoidably right-wing political project.

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      @jnkrtech
      The LLM is a statistical analysis of a corpus of language. In a sense, it is language in, language out, with math in the middle. The math is done on the corpus. The "front end" is parsing user intent against the business logic that built the machine, and inducing output from the LLM. For those who are interested in language itself, and how language has been used, it is a tool of considerable impact, I think.

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      • jnkrtech@social.treehouse.systemsJ jnkrtech@social.treehouse.systems

        This is something that probably sounds obvious to some folks and unhinged to others, but I think it’s worth saying anyway: “workers who don’t adopt AI will get left behind” is right-wing propaganda. It’s more than just a surface-level advertising message. It makes the unstated assumption that workers are all in a state of conflict, racing against one another in competition for acceptable employment. This is the literal opposite of class consciousness! All workers should be aiming for a world where we don’t have to fight each other to earn a chance at a decent life.

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        @jnkrtech it's worse than that. They want everyone using AI because LLM-mediated genre capture makes people easy to control. When we all start speaking the machine's language of legible coherence, and flatten all edges and inconsistencies into nothing by recognizing them as errors... no one will need to be dominated or controlled. They'll control themselves.

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        • jnkrtech@social.treehouse.systemsJ jnkrtech@social.treehouse.systems

          This is something that probably sounds obvious to some folks and unhinged to others, but I think it’s worth saying anyway: “workers who don’t adopt AI will get left behind” is right-wing propaganda. It’s more than just a surface-level advertising message. It makes the unstated assumption that workers are all in a state of conflict, racing against one another in competition for acceptable employment. This is the literal opposite of class consciousness! All workers should be aiming for a world where we don’t have to fight each other to earn a chance at a decent life.

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          @jnkrtech thank you for sharing your well-worded perspective on such an important topic.

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          • jnkrtech@social.treehouse.systemsJ jnkrtech@social.treehouse.systems

            This is something that probably sounds obvious to some folks and unhinged to others, but I think it’s worth saying anyway: “workers who don’t adopt AI will get left behind” is right-wing propaganda. It’s more than just a surface-level advertising message. It makes the unstated assumption that workers are all in a state of conflict, racing against one another in competition for acceptable employment. This is the literal opposite of class consciousness! All workers should be aiming for a world where we don’t have to fight each other to earn a chance at a decent life.

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            @jnkrtech unfortunately that's not how reality works though. Ultimately, in competitive markets, underperformers will be at a risk of losing their jobs. And while there are many who perform just fine without these kinds of tools, it is looking like LLMs are raising the performance bar across the board meaning those using them will just have an advantage over many others who choose not to.

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            • alethenorio@fosstodon.orgA alethenorio@fosstodon.org

              @jnkrtech unfortunately that's not how reality works though. Ultimately, in competitive markets, underperformers will be at a risk of losing their jobs. And while there are many who perform just fine without these kinds of tools, it is looking like LLMs are raising the performance bar across the board meaning those using them will just have an advantage over many others who choose not to.

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              @alethenorio congratulations on demonstrating the exact mindset that I’m calling out as socially harmful

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              • jnkrtech@social.treehouse.systemsJ jnkrtech@social.treehouse.systems

                @alethenorio congratulations on demonstrating the exact mindset that I’m calling out as socially harmful

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                @jnkrtech it's not a mindset. I am not saying whether it is right or wrong. I'm just stating facts.

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                • alethenorio@fosstodon.orgA alethenorio@fosstodon.org

                  @jnkrtech it's not a mindset. I am not saying whether it is right or wrong. I'm just stating facts.

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                  @alethenorio @jnkrtech

                  Do these facts care about our feelings?

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                  • alethenorio@fosstodon.orgA alethenorio@fosstodon.org

                    @jnkrtech unfortunately that's not how reality works though. Ultimately, in competitive markets, underperformers will be at a risk of losing their jobs. And while there are many who perform just fine without these kinds of tools, it is looking like LLMs are raising the performance bar across the board meaning those using them will just have an advantage over many others who choose not to.

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                    @alethenorio "looking like" is doing far too much work here. It's an old story that I can have a result after an arbitrarily short time, as long as I don't give two shits about its correctness. The sensible part would be approximative algorithms where I can stop refinement once the remaining error is small enough for my particular purpose, though I fail to see how anybody ever even tries to arrive at something remotely resembing a confidence interval. So for all practical purposes, fuck those glorified pseudo random number generators.

                    Let's not even get started about the challenges of measuring "performance" in any meaningful way. Which nobody ever does, they simply quote long-disproved fallacies as excuses for handing out termination notices.

                    Debating whether those deranged groupthink bullshitters "work" is entirely beside OP's point though, and while your whole argument hinges on suits without men not knowing how to see, or not even looking, that does not change the dominating fact that all about it is wrong even if the current form of GenAI was something akin to a screwdriver, i.e., a tool — which the technofascist neofeudalist "Ai" broligarch nazi degenerates' approach is decidedly and intentionally not. It's a weapon to disrupt, for the sake of disruption itself —as usual— and short-term gains for a few, at the expense of everyone else AND the entire planet, so fuck any debate on its pretend "usefulness".

                    If I understand OP correctly, the masses still cowering beneath the dictate of "competitive markets" is an essential part of the problem, perhaps solvable in large part by unionization. Fuck competition, practice and live solidarity.

                    @jnkrtech

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                    • jnkrtech@social.treehouse.systemsJ jnkrtech@social.treehouse.systems

                      This is something that probably sounds obvious to some folks and unhinged to others, but I think it’s worth saying anyway: “workers who don’t adopt AI will get left behind” is right-wing propaganda. It’s more than just a surface-level advertising message. It makes the unstated assumption that workers are all in a state of conflict, racing against one another in competition for acceptable employment. This is the literal opposite of class consciousness! All workers should be aiming for a world where we don’t have to fight each other to earn a chance at a decent life.

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                      @jnkrtech Also, using AI prevents one from learning, and erodes what skill one already has. Even in a competition using them is a bad idea.

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                      • jnkrtech@social.treehouse.systemsJ jnkrtech@social.treehouse.systems

                        This is something that probably sounds obvious to some folks and unhinged to others, but I think it’s worth saying anyway: “workers who don’t adopt AI will get left behind” is right-wing propaganda. It’s more than just a surface-level advertising message. It makes the unstated assumption that workers are all in a state of conflict, racing against one another in competition for acceptable employment. This is the literal opposite of class consciousness! All workers should be aiming for a world where we don’t have to fight each other to earn a chance at a decent life.

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                        @jnkrtech I really appreciate this perspective ✊

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