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Quite a phenomenal campaign ad from the Greens down in England.

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  • billiglarper@rollenspiel.socialB billiglarper@rollenspiel.social

    @secid @LaChasseuse

    You might want to check your privilege.

    Perhaps talk to some freelancers or minimum wage folks.

    Sorry, don't have the time for a more detailed answer.

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    #96

    @billiglarper @LaChasseuse
    I am a freelancer - by choice.

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    • sfwmson@universeodon.comS sfwmson@universeodon.com

      @grammasaurus @OhWeh @LaChasseuse

      I really really hope so.

      I'm 65 and back in the day I figured the hippie generation would change the world... But they didn't.

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      #97

      @Sfwmson The hippies got usurped by the disco/yuppie culture. That's really the time point when every normal person started getting poorer as money was funnelled upwards.

      @grammasaurus @OhWeh

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      • lachasseuse@mastodon.scotL lachasseuse@mastodon.scot

        Quite a phenomenal campaign ad from the Greens down in England. Strong. I firmly believe that any political party not running this same message will fail.

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        #98

        @LaChasseuse Having seen almost all of Zohran's campaign ads this one feels very familiar. Well done.

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        • awettesfaiesus@mastodon.socialA awettesfaiesus@mastodon.social

          @frlan @flohlaus @lobingera @holger

          Frei nach Horkheimer: aus der Betrachtung der Zustände, folgen Analyse, Erkenntnis und dann Praxis.

          BTW: Sitze gerade in Addis Abeba und schreibe mit Euch über Horkheimer. Hätte er sich vermutlich so auch nicht gedacht.

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          #99

          @AwetTesfaiesus @frlan @flohlaus @holger ich bin verwirrt - möchtest du deinen Kommentar, das die uk Kampagne nicht wirtschaftskritsch ist aufrecht erhalten?

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          • lobingera@chaos.socialL lobingera@chaos.social

            @AwetTesfaiesus @frlan @flohlaus @holger ich bin verwirrt - möchtest du deinen Kommentar, das die uk Kampagne nicht wirtschaftskritsch ist aufrecht erhalten?

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            #100

            @lobingera @frlan @flohlaus @holger ja.

            Vielleicht haben wir unterschiedliche Vorstellungen von Wirtschaft.

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            • lachasseuse@mastodon.scotL lachasseuse@mastodon.scot

              Quite a phenomenal campaign ad from the Greens down in England. Strong. I firmly believe that any political party not running this same message will fail.

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              #101

              @LaChasseuse impressive

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              • lobingera@chaos.socialL lobingera@chaos.social

                @AwetTesfaiesus @frlan @flohlaus @holger ich bin verwirrt - möchtest du deinen Kommentar, das die uk Kampagne nicht wirtschaftskritsch ist aufrecht erhalten?

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                #102

                @lobingera @frlan @flohlaus @holger für mich ist Wirtschaft: Bäckerin, Bäuerin, Coderin, Anwältin, Krankenpflegerin, Windmüllerin. Von denen kenne ich einige. Keine von denen hat ein globales Portfolio an Mietwohnungen und 'Family Office' ist das Arbeitszimmer unterm Dach, wo die Steuern gemacht werden und wo der Heimtrainer / das Schlagzeug der Kinder steht.

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                • lachasseuse@mastodon.scotL lachasseuse@mastodon.scot

                  Quite a phenomenal campaign ad from the Greens down in England. Strong. I firmly believe that any political party not running this same message will fail.

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                  #103

                  @LaChasseuse 💚

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                  • petealexharris@mastodon.scotP petealexharris@mastodon.scot

                    @EF @LaChasseuse

                    The civil service aren't puppet-masters, they're administrators and workers who try to implement whatever policy, good or bad, the government dictates. They will advise about difficulties, but they are definitely not calling the shots; their advice is frequently ignored.

                    You can choose politicians who aren't puppets of the rich; that's the point of voting. Most people may not see that choice clearly, but that's the point of campaigning. Hence the video.

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                    #104

                    @petealexharris yeah, "politicians are being controlled by the civil service" is a fucking take 😅
                    It's like UK politicians have somehow managed to convince everyone that they're the ones with their hands tied, rather than the ones sitting on them.
                    @EF @LaChasseuse

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                    • awettesfaiesus@mastodon.socialA awettesfaiesus@mastodon.social

                      @lobingera @frlan @flohlaus @holger für mich ist Wirtschaft: Bäckerin, Bäuerin, Coderin, Anwältin, Krankenpflegerin, Windmüllerin. Von denen kenne ich einige. Keine von denen hat ein globales Portfolio an Mietwohnungen und 'Family Office' ist das Arbeitszimmer unterm Dach, wo die Steuern gemacht werden und wo der Heimtrainer / das Schlagzeug der Kinder steht.

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                      #105

                      @AwetTesfaiesus @frlan @flohlaus @holger

                      „this isn’t just an economic failure, it’s a failure of leadership.“ ist für mich wirtschaftskritisch, aber vielen Dank für die Einordnung.

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                      • lachasseuse@mastodon.scotL lachasseuse@mastodon.scot

                        Quite a phenomenal campaign ad from the Greens down in England. Strong. I firmly believe that any political party not running this same message will fail.

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                        #106

                        @LaChasseuse I used to think that it's easy for minor parties to make claims. They don't have the experienced MPs or the economics to implement those changes. Now, it seems the major, old guard parties don't know what they're doing either. Is that because I'm getting older and more cynical? Or are they really getting worse?

                        Either way, I'm willing to try something new.

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                        • lobingera@chaos.socialL lobingera@chaos.social

                          @AwetTesfaiesus @frlan @flohlaus @holger

                          „this isn’t just an economic failure, it’s a failure of leadership.“ ist für mich wirtschaftskritisch, aber vielen Dank für die Einordnung.

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                          #107

                          @lobingera @frlan @flohlaus @holger das war für mich der systemkritische Teil

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                          • E ef@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                            @LaChasseuse problem is the politicians are puppets of the civil service and the rich. Labour promised a lot and have delivered the opposite.

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                            #108

                            @EF @LaChasseuse I agree that politicians are overly influenced by big corps.

                            But the civil service are subject matter experts at a level beyond any MP that gets randomly dropped in a post. It's not surprising when MPs demand irrational measures, or stupid or illegal things and the civil servants say no.

                            As for Labour promising a lot... did they? I thought they mainly said "we aren't those guys" while the Tories death spiralled. So Labour haven't delivered much at all.

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                            • lachasseuse@mastodon.scotL lachasseuse@mastodon.scot

                              Quite a phenomenal campaign ad from the Greens down in England. Strong. I firmly believe that any political party not running this same message will fail.

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                              @LaChasseuse @emilylowan

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                              • clersev@mastodon.underworld.frC clersev@mastodon.underworld.fr

                                @LaChasseuse 2008? Is it an old ad campaign ?

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                                #110

                                @Clersev @LaChasseuse No, it is new, but the point is that wages have been largely flat since 2008.

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                                • lachasseuse@mastodon.scotL lachasseuse@mastodon.scot

                                  Quite a phenomenal campaign ad from the Greens down in England. Strong. I firmly believe that any political party not running this same message will fail.

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                                  #111

                                  @LaChasseuse
                                  Holy shit, that's good!

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                                  • andrewhs@aus.socialA andrewhs@aus.social

                                    @LaChasseuse this message would resonate in Australia. #auspol

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                                    @AndrewHS @LaChasseuse I feel like its a very universal experience for the working class around the world.

                                    I'm from Germany and I felt seen.

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                                    • tattie@eldritch.cafeT tattie@eldritch.cafe

                                      @petealexharris yeah, "politicians are being controlled by the civil service" is a fucking take 😅
                                      It's like UK politicians have somehow managed to convince everyone that they're the ones with their hands tied, rather than the ones sitting on them.
                                      @EF @LaChasseuse

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                                      @Tattie @EF @LaChasseuse
                                      100% this.

                                      Yeah, for example Tory/UKIP politicians promising leaving the EU would result in things that were legally, practically and even logically impossible was a big part of the Brexit catastrophe, and the civil service weren't forcing them to do that. They were screaming into a pillow because they aren't allowed to oppose government policy politically no matter how stupid and doomed it is.

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                                      • phf@mastodon.deP phf@mastodon.de

                                        @LaChasseuse It's a great ad, and a well-argued point, but the problem is that many parties already run on this and none of them do anything but stuff more money into the 1%. We had a supposedly "progressive" government for four years in Germany. Not a green one, yes, but one where the social-democratic party who also always runs on "small people, workers, unions, economic justice" stuff was the biggest part, and it was just more shafting for workers. Now under a conservative government that AGAIN has the social-democratic party in it (as the junior partner this time) it's of course more shafting (and berating people, endlessly). The real problem is that people who would actually change things are not available for election. They don't get to run. The apparatus of the parties filters them out, because all parties, regardless of what their programs say, know that once they come into government, they will be told the same old thing: "Look, we're glad you're here, but if we don't like your policies we'll take so much capital out of your economy that it will collapse. So watch it!" And there we go again.

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                                        @phf @LaChasseuse To be fair, the German "social-democratic" party hasn't actually been social-democratic in a long time. Paired with a capitalist-right party, we got the expected results.

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                                        • lachasseuse@mastodon.scotL lachasseuse@mastodon.scot

                                          @Sfwmson The hippies got usurped by the disco/yuppie culture. That's really the time point when every normal person started getting poorer as money was funnelled upwards.

                                          @grammasaurus @OhWeh

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                                          #115

                                          @LaChasseuse @Sfwmson @grammasaurus @OhWeh which coincided with the election of Reagan and trickle down economics. On the heels of that, cable and reality TV set in. Finally, social media taught everyone we don’t have values, we are a brand —

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