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Ring has announced a new “Search Party” feature that could eventually bring mass biometric surveillance to our streets.

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  • eff@mastodon.socialE eff@mastodon.social

    Ring has announced a new “Search Party” feature that could eventually bring mass biometric surveillance to our streets. It’s on by default. Shut it off.
    https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2026/02/no-one-including-our-furry-friends-will-be-safer-rings-surveillance-nightmare-0

    donhawkins@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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    #12

    @eff @wb2ifs “Shut it off”!? How about never buy their crap to begin with … & if you already made that mistake tear the thing out & ask for a refund.

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    • eff@mastodon.socialE eff@mastodon.social

      Ring has announced a new “Search Party” feature that could eventually bring mass biometric surveillance to our streets. It’s on by default. Shut it off.
      https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2026/02/no-one-including-our-furry-friends-will-be-safer-rings-surveillance-nightmare-0

      juneussell@mas.toJ This user is from outside of this forum
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      #13

      @eff How about … just not have one? You’re already into surveillance if you do.

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      • ferricoxide@blahaj.zoneF ferricoxide@blahaj.zone

        @eff@mastodon.social

        At least with a standalone smart camera, you can mount them in ways that constrains their view to
        just your property. Unfortunately, with the ways most porches are laid out, that's all but impossible with a doorbell camera.

        ferricoxide@blahaj.zoneF This user is from outside of this forum
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        #14

        @eff@mastodon.social

        Also, just because you opt out, should we have
        any confidence that they aren't still using your camera for these purposes? Do we really think they'll be satisfied leaving holes in their surveillance nets when they can just silently closing those holes? I mean, they were supposed to get owners' consent before sharing with police, but that seemed to be done with a wink and a nod. I imagine the Flock arrangement will show owners' preferences being similarly bypassesd.

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        • eff@mastodon.socialE eff@mastodon.social

          Ring has announced a new “Search Party” feature that could eventually bring mass biometric surveillance to our streets. It’s on by default. Shut it off.
          https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2026/02/no-one-including-our-furry-friends-will-be-safer-rings-surveillance-nightmare-0

          richspk@tech.lgbtR This user is from outside of this forum
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          #15

          @eff I wouldn't touch Ring cameras with a ten foot pole, but I'm still subject to surveillance by my neighbor's Ring cameras.

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          • eff@mastodon.socialE eff@mastodon.social

            Ring has announced a new “Search Party” feature that could eventually bring mass biometric surveillance to our streets. It’s on by default. Shut it off.
            https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2026/02/no-one-including-our-furry-friends-will-be-safer-rings-surveillance-nightmare-0

            inurwalls@mastodon.socialI This user is from outside of this forum
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            #16

            @eff oh boy the future is bright!

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            • eva@mindly.socialE eva@mindly.social

              @eff I was horrified when I saw that commercial.

              thamunsta@mastodon.nervesocket.comT This user is from outside of this forum
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              #17

              @eva @eff yeah my first thought was uhh hey Ring, read the room...
              I've edited a version of their ad to show what I saw...

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              • eff@mastodon.socialE eff@mastodon.social

                Ring has announced a new “Search Party” feature that could eventually bring mass biometric surveillance to our streets. It’s on by default. Shut it off.
                https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2026/02/no-one-including-our-furry-friends-will-be-safer-rings-surveillance-nightmare-0

                kryten@veganism.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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                #18

                @eff are there any recommended alternatives to ring?

                bolomkxxviii@mastodon.socialB xyhhx@nso.groupX 2 Antworten Letzte Antwort
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                • eff@mastodon.socialE eff@mastodon.social

                  Ring has announced a new “Search Party” feature that could eventually bring mass biometric surveillance to our streets. It’s on by default. Shut it off.
                  https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2026/02/no-one-including-our-furry-friends-will-be-safer-rings-surveillance-nightmare-0

                  prokyonid@mastodon.sdf.orgP This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #19

                  @eff
                  https://www.hamiltonnolan.com/p/remove-your-ring-camera-with-a-claw?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=1536173&post_id=187505604

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                  • eff@mastodon.socialE eff@mastodon.social

                    Ring has announced a new “Search Party” feature that could eventually bring mass biometric surveillance to our streets. It’s on by default. Shut it off.
                    https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2026/02/no-one-including-our-furry-friends-will-be-safer-rings-surveillance-nightmare-0

                    eric@geldmacher.ioE This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #20

                    @eff

                    🔨 An alternate method to disable the feature. 🔨

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                    • eff@mastodon.socialE eff@mastodon.social

                      Ring has announced a new “Search Party” feature that could eventually bring mass biometric surveillance to our streets. It’s on by default. Shut it off.
                      https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2026/02/no-one-including-our-furry-friends-will-be-safer-rings-surveillance-nightmare-0

                      kevinrns@mstdn.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #21

                      @eff

                      Reddit is PISSED and theyre organising Ring Camera mass returns to Amazon

                      Ring camera fascism.

                      #ring #Nazi #ice #surveillance

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                      • eff@mastodon.socialE eff@mastodon.social

                        Ring has announced a new “Search Party” feature that could eventually bring mass biometric surveillance to our streets. It’s on by default. Shut it off.
                        https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2026/02/no-one-including-our-furry-friends-will-be-safer-rings-surveillance-nightmare-0

                        rayocentric@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #22

                        @eff
                        Amazon has been in the surveillance and data collection and data mining game for most of its years.

                        They even tried to buy Roomba, which exists to send 3d images of your floor plan back to h.q. under the guise of cleaning.

                        IOT was never about our convenience. It was always about surveillance.

                        Do people really not know these things or are they waiting for the bandwagon to feel some kind of way?

                        None of this is new.
                        #surveillance #ring #amazon

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                        • eff@mastodon.socialE eff@mastodon.social

                          Ring has announced a new “Search Party” feature that could eventually bring mass biometric surveillance to our streets. It’s on by default. Shut it off.
                          https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2026/02/no-one-including-our-furry-friends-will-be-safer-rings-surveillance-nightmare-0

                          rrhett@mastodon.onlineR This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #23

                          @eff better, just get rid of ring entirely

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                          • faduda@mastodon.ieF faduda@mastodon.ie

                            @Parkersavage @kevinrns @eff

                            Guys, there comes a point when you need to kill it with hammers.

                            bolomkxxviii@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #24

                            @faduda @Parkersavage @kevinrns @eff THIS!!!

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                            • kryten@veganism.socialK kryten@veganism.social

                              @eff are there any recommended alternatives to ring?

                              bolomkxxviii@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #25

                              @kryten @eff An old fashioned doorbell.

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                              • nazokiyoubinbou@mastodon.socialN nazokiyoubinbou@mastodon.social

                                @eff Thankfully I already disabled this "feature" (it's two parts. I see one for fires and one for pets.) I also enabled video encryption for whatever good that does. (Supposedly makes it harder for them to share? Yeah, I don't particularly trust it, but if that is what it takes...)

                                God I wish I could just get rid of the thing, but I have $1 in my wallet right now... (And yes, I need video.)

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                                #26

                                @eff @nazokiyoubinbou

                                Don't take my word for it because if it doesn't work you'll be in a bad place but I've seen some people on reddit getting full refunds after claiming that the changed ToS means that this is no longer the device they bought or something like that.

                                If you can do that and use the money for a Eufy one or another system that works locally that could be a good idea (although that is a big if)

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                                • rayocentric@mastodon.socialR rayocentric@mastodon.social

                                  @eff
                                  Amazon has been in the surveillance and data collection and data mining game for most of its years.

                                  They even tried to buy Roomba, which exists to send 3d images of your floor plan back to h.q. under the guise of cleaning.

                                  IOT was never about our convenience. It was always about surveillance.

                                  Do people really not know these things or are they waiting for the bandwagon to feel some kind of way?

                                  None of this is new.
                                  #surveillance #ring #amazon

                                  gbargoud@masto.nycG This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #27

                                  @eff @rayocentric

                                  They tried to buy roomba but the EU started asking too many questions about the deal and they abandoned it, another point for strong antitrust regulations

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                                  • gbargoud@masto.nycG gbargoud@masto.nyc

                                    @eff @rayocentric

                                    They tried to buy roomba but the EU started asking too many questions about the deal and they abandoned it, another point for strong antitrust regulations

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                                    #28

                                    @gbargoud Thanks for keeping me honest. Last I heard, it was a done deal... but that was awhile ago.

                                    In any case, we all know a little bit more about Roomba. Thanks again, though.

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                                    • rayocentric@mastodon.socialR rayocentric@mastodon.social

                                      @gbargoud Thanks for keeping me honest. Last I heard, it was a done deal... but that was awhile ago.

                                      In any case, we all know a little bit more about Roomba. Thanks again, though.

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                                      #29

                                      @gbargoud I'm keeping my error up so more people can fact check me. You're the hero of this thread.

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                                      • rayocentric@mastodon.socialR rayocentric@mastodon.social

                                        @gbargoud Thanks for keeping me honest. Last I heard, it was a done deal... but that was awhile ago.

                                        In any case, we all know a little bit more about Roomba. Thanks again, though.

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                                        #30

                                        @rayocentric

                                        I thought it was a done deal a year or so ago when I looked it up for whatever reason and was surprised to see that they don't always get their way.

                                        PS. I would recommend just changing "bought" to "tried to buy", your point would still stand

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                                        • gbargoud@masto.nycG gbargoud@masto.nyc

                                          @rayocentric

                                          I thought it was a done deal a year or so ago when I looked it up for whatever reason and was surprised to see that they don't always get their way.

                                          PS. I would recommend just changing "bought" to "tried to buy", your point would still stand

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                                          #31

                                          @gbargoud
                                          Advice taken. Thanks yet again. I'm planting your flag on this thread cuz you saved it twice.

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