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Putin’s "3-day" war on Ukraine has now lasted longer than Russia fought Germany in either WWI or WWII.

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  • fietsbel@mastodon.socialF fietsbel@mastodon.social

    @Angelina @Daojoan That‘s true, but Hitler had prepared for years for WWIi, so the allies had to fight an armed giant, in the beginning. So #Ukraine, by and large, has done well militarily and has fought very bravely. - The participation of both the USA and of the USSR gradually shifted the balance, of course, in the case of WWII.

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    #5

    @Fietsbel @Daojoan In 1941, the Soviet Army was also not at its best. Moreover, the previous year, they didn't succeed to take Finland.

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    • dzedus@mas.toD dzedus@mas.to

      @Fietsbel @Angelina @Daojoan Allies were also fighting against Japan and Italy — their capacity to support Soviets was not unlimited

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      #6

      @dzedus @Angelina @Daojoan No, but they did, and military cooperation and coordination as such also help a lot. I imagine.

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      • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

        Putin’s "3-day" war on Ukraine has now lasted longer than Russia fought Germany in either WWI or WWII.

        He has spent more time utterly failing to subdue Ukraine than the USSR spent defeating the Wehrmacht.

        The man is a laughing stock on history’s stage.

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        #7

        @Daojoan

        A whole lot of dead Russians and Ukrainians might not see the humor. But yeh, Epic Failure.

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        • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

          Putin’s "3-day" war on Ukraine has now lasted longer than Russia fought Germany in either WWI or WWII.

          He has spent more time utterly failing to subdue Ukraine than the USSR spent defeating the Wehrmacht.

          The man is a laughing stock on history’s stage.

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          #8

          @Daojoan Putin hasn't just been fighting Ukraine. He has been fighting US military intelligence, CIA, help from Poland, France, Germany and the UK. It's a proxy war. Ukraine on it's own would have been lost long ago.

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          • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

            Putin’s "3-day" war on Ukraine has now lasted longer than Russia fought Germany in either WWI or WWII.

            He has spent more time utterly failing to subdue Ukraine than the USSR spent defeating the Wehrmacht.

            The man is a laughing stock on history’s stage.

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            miket330@mastodon.social
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            #9

            @Daojoan but like trumplethinskin he will double down to try and save face

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            • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

              Putin’s "3-day" war on Ukraine has now lasted longer than Russia fought Germany in either WWI or WWII.

              He has spent more time utterly failing to subdue Ukraine than the USSR spent defeating the Wehrmacht.

              The man is a laughing stock on history’s stage.

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              #10

              @Daojoan Their casualties have exceeded their Afghanistan losses.

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              • angelina@mastodon.onlineA angelina@mastodon.online

                @Daojoan To fight Germany, USSR wasn't alone.
                During WWI, communists negotiated with Germans to stop the war on their front.
                And during WWII, they were massively helped by USA and UK.

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                #11

                @Angelina @Daojoan lets not forget the Canadians and their Indigenous, Australians and South Africans!

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                • fietsbel@mastodon.socialF fietsbel@mastodon.social

                  @Angelina @Daojoan That‘s true, but Hitler had prepared for years for WWIi, so the allies had to fight an armed giant, in the beginning. So #Ukraine, by and large, has done well militarily and has fought very bravely. - The participation of both the USA and of the USSR gradually shifted the balance, of course, in the case of WWII.

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                  #12

                  @Fietsbel @Angelina @Daojoan

                  NATO also prepared for the Ukraine war at least since 2014

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                  • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                    Putin’s "3-day" war on Ukraine has now lasted longer than Russia fought Germany in either WWI or WWII.

                    He has spent more time utterly failing to subdue Ukraine than the USSR spent defeating the Wehrmacht.

                    The man is a laughing stock on history’s stage.

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                    #13

                    @Daojoan It's incredible. I wonder if, like WWII, we will never know how many Russians actually died?

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                    • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                      Putin’s "3-day" war on Ukraine has now lasted longer than Russia fought Germany in either WWI or WWII.

                      He has spent more time utterly failing to subdue Ukraine than the USSR spent defeating the Wehrmacht.

                      The man is a laughing stock on history’s stage.

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                      #14

                      @Daojoan Yes, and on top of it, Putin has nuclear weapons as the only thing propping him up, besides his crony trump.

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                      • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                        Putin’s "3-day" war on Ukraine has now lasted longer than Russia fought Germany in either WWI or WWII.

                        He has spent more time utterly failing to subdue Ukraine than the USSR spent defeating the Wehrmacht.

                        The man is a laughing stock on history’s stage.

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                        #15

                        @Daojoan

                        Last time the Ukrainians were fighting for Russia. This time thry're fighting against Russia.

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                        • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                          Putin’s "3-day" war on Ukraine has now lasted longer than Russia fought Germany in either WWI or WWII.

                          He has spent more time utterly failing to subdue Ukraine than the USSR spent defeating the Wehrmacht.

                          The man is a laughing stock on history’s stage.

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                          #16

                          @Daojoan

                          This war kind of makes it look like Ukraine was the major force that defeated the Wehrmacht.

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                          • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                            Putin’s "3-day" war on Ukraine has now lasted longer than Russia fought Germany in either WWI or WWII.

                            He has spent more time utterly failing to subdue Ukraine than the USSR spent defeating the Wehrmacht.

                            The man is a laughing stock on history’s stage.

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                            #17

                            @Daojoan it's also lost an order of magnitude more people than the afghan war!

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                            • angelina@mastodon.onlineA angelina@mastodon.online

                              @Daojoan To fight Germany, USSR wasn't alone.
                              During WWI, communists negotiated with Germans to stop the war on their front.
                              And during WWII, they were massively helped by USA and UK.

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                              #18

                              @Angelina @Daojoan I mean, technically neither is Russia. The quantity of assistance is lower than it was during those world wars, but as the name implies, everyone was fighting everyone in those wars.

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                              • angelina@mastodon.onlineA angelina@mastodon.online

                                @Daojoan To fight Germany, USSR wasn't alone.
                                During WWI, communists negotiated with Germans to stop the war on their front.
                                And during WWII, they were massively helped by USA and UK.

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                                #19

                                @Angelina @Daojoan And in this war, they are getting a lot of help from Iran, China, India, North Korea, and even some western companies.

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                                • x41h@infosec.exchangeX x41h@infosec.exchange

                                  @Daojoan Putin hasn't just been fighting Ukraine. He has been fighting US military intelligence, CIA, help from Poland, France, Germany and the UK. It's a proxy war. Ukraine on it's own would have been lost long ago.

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                                  @x41h @Daojoan Exactly. And I think it has been restrained; it hasn't attacked like they did in WW2, regardless of the number of casualties. It's so said that so many people have to die because of the ambitions of the powerful.

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                                  • elbci@mastodon.socialE elbci@mastodon.social

                                    @Fietsbel @Angelina @Daojoan

                                    NATO also prepared for the Ukraine war at least since 2014

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                                    #21

                                    @elbci @Angelina @Daojoan NATO?? Nope, #Ukraine was not allowed to become a NATO member, remember. The West itself refused its access (otherwise Putin wouldn’t have attacked Ukraine). - Maybe #Ukraine prepared, and of right so, because it was always under Russian attack since 2014.

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                                    • absolutum_obsoletum@mastodon.socialA absolutum_obsoletum@mastodon.social

                                      @x41h @Daojoan Exactly. And I think it has been restrained; it hasn't attacked like they did in WW2, regardless of the number of casualties. It's so said that so many people have to die because of the ambitions of the powerful.

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                                      #22

                                      @absolutum_obsoletum @Daojoan the crazy thing about all of it if you read as many CIA, spy, espionage, etc books as me is that every global war/conflict can be attributed to power struggle between Russia and US. Especially in S America or Vietnam, Afghanistan, etc. Because of clandestine missions that neither side publicly speaks about. Both sides pushing ideological subversion to win influence. Russia is losing that front because they are such assholes to people. US aint no angel but who the hell would want Russia dominating global sphere of influence. Bunch of heartless, soulless evil regime fuckers.

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                                        #23

                                        @riswey @Daojoan The world does not believe russian propaganda about "Americans in Ukraine!", and the world is waiting for russia to back down and leave Ukraine.

                                        If this is a burner account, reply to this with additional russian propaganda.

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                                        • alienghic@timeloop.cafeA alienghic@timeloop.cafe

                                          @Daojoan

                                          This war kind of makes it look like Ukraine was the major force that defeated the Wehrmacht.

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                                          #24

                                          @alienghic @Daojoan Author of the USSR's rocket program was Ukrainian, the best planes were designed in Ukraine, tractor/tank factories were there.
                                          Ukraine was a real good capture to exploit by the russian empire.
                                          Sure, they sucked dry smaller countries like the Baltic states, but the sheer size of Ukraine allowed to profit much more from it in manufacturing, brain power and military size.

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