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  • fluentinfinance@mastodon.socialF fluentinfinance@mastodon.social

    Married and own a home by 30 years old in the US

    1960: 52%
    1970: 48%
    1980: 45%
    1990: 43%
    2000: 35%
    2010: 25%
    2025: 12%

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    hexgaard@mastodon.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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    #20

    @FluentInFinance why is it important to own a home when you’re married?

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    • fluentinfinance@mastodon.socialF fluentinfinance@mastodon.social

      Married and own a home by 30 years old in the US

      1960: 52%
      1970: 48%
      1980: 45%
      1990: 43%
      2000: 35%
      2010: 25%
      2025: 12%

      I’m sure everything is fine.

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      cresssalad@mastodon.social
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      #21

      @FluentInFinance Less super rich / high net-worth people in the 50s, the pool of money is more dispreportionate in the current time, which means less net-worth people have less (and less cost effective) choice, less leverage in purchasing decisions, higher interest, higher and more variable fees, the list is endless when not in "the club" or is that a cartel? It does not always feel like free markets are working.

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      • zbrown@floss.socialZ zbrown@floss.social

        @tartley @FluentInFinance I'd assume it's ignoring mortgage as a factor, and counting everything as ‘owning’ even if a lender owns the other 99% of the place, but indeed there is ambiguity

        rasmus91@fosstodon.orgR This user is from outside of this forum
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        #22

        @zbrown @tartley @FluentInFinance there's still a vast difference between owning and renting;

        You rent, that's money that's just gone every month. You have a mortgage: that's money you're saving up every month (minus the interest).

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        • schafstelze@don.linxx.netS schafstelze@don.linxx.net

          @FluentInFinance I wouldn't combine marital status with real estate ownership; the decline of the first one isn't necessarily a bad thing.
          Another caveat, if the idea is to demonstrate the decline of income by the decline of young couples with houses, there might be other, stronger reasons than economical ones why people don't buy houses and procreate right after school/uni anymore.

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          #23

          @Schafstelze @FluentInFinance exactly what I thought. Any numbers on not married and own a house?
          You would at least need to separate the two to make an economic argument about it.

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          • fluentinfinance@mastodon.socialF fluentinfinance@mastodon.social

            Married and own a home by 30 years old in the US

            1960: 52%
            1970: 48%
            1980: 45%
            1990: 43%
            2000: 35%
            2010: 25%
            2025: 12%

            I’m sure everything is fine.

            dozymoe@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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            #24

            @FluentInFinance how many have their pensions tied to the military industry

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            • notyourfanboy@kolektiva.socialN notyourfanboy@kolektiva.social

              @FluentInFinance
              Now do married, and own a cat.

              disorderlyf@todon.euD This user is from outside of this forum
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              #25

              @notyourfanboy @FluentInFinance I mean, even aggregated over the entire cat's lifetime, I suspect it's still orders of magnitude cheaper than a wedding and a mortgage.

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              • fluentinfinance@mastodon.socialF fluentinfinance@mastodon.social

                Married and own a home by 30 years old in the US

                1960: 52%
                1970: 48%
                1980: 45%
                1990: 43%
                2000: 35%
                2010: 25%
                2025: 12%

                I’m sure everything is fine.

                disorderlyf@todon.euD This user is from outside of this forum
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                #26

                @FluentInFinance Curious how those numbers compare to, say, 1920-1950

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                • fluentinfinance@mastodon.socialF fluentinfinance@mastodon.social

                  Married and own a home by 30 years old in the US

                  1960: 52%
                  1970: 48%
                  1980: 45%
                  1990: 43%
                  2000: 35%
                  2010: 25%
                  2025: 12%

                  I’m sure everything is fine.

                  corb_the_lesser@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                  corb_the_lesser@mastodon.social
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                  #27

                  @FluentInFinance Map that against wealth distribution upward since 1960.

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                  • fluentinfinance@mastodon.socialF fluentinfinance@mastodon.social

                    Married and own a home by 30 years old in the US

                    1960: 52%
                    1970: 48%
                    1980: 45%
                    1990: 43%
                    2000: 35%
                    2010: 25%
                    2025: 12%

                    I’m sure everything is fine.

                    muz4now@mastodon.worldM This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #28

                    @FluentInFinance Ouch. What's the source for these statistics?

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                    • fluentinfinance@mastodon.socialF fluentinfinance@mastodon.social

                      Married and own a home by 30 years old in the US

                      1960: 52%
                      1970: 48%
                      1980: 45%
                      1990: 43%
                      2000: 35%
                      2010: 25%
                      2025: 12%

                      I’m sure everything is fine.

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                      nikxxx@mastodon.social
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                      #29

                      @FluentInFinance речь именно про частный дом? Или про любое жилье? Я так понимаю невыплаченные кредиты тоже входят в эти 12%, сколько из этих 12% потеряют жилье из-за кризиса и невозможности выплатить кредит? Если про дом, то 12% это еще не так печально, в РФ думаю все куда хуже.

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                      • fluentinfinance@mastodon.socialF fluentinfinance@mastodon.social

                        Married and own a home by 30 years old in the US

                        1960: 52%
                        1970: 48%
                        1980: 45%
                        1990: 43%
                        2000: 35%
                        2010: 25%
                        2025: 12%

                        I’m sure everything is fine.

                        skribe@aus.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #30

                        @FluentInFinance
                        Population

                        1960 3 billion
                        2026 8.3 billion

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                        • fluentinfinance@mastodon.socialF fluentinfinance@mastodon.social

                          Married and own a home by 30 years old in the US

                          1960: 52%
                          1970: 48%
                          1980: 45%
                          1990: 43%
                          2000: 35%
                          2010: 25%
                          2025: 12%

                          I’m sure everything is fine.

                          promovicz@chaos.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #31

                          @FluentInFinance Can you state a source?

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                          • promovicz@chaos.socialP promovicz@chaos.social

                            @FluentInFinance Can you state a source?

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                            #32

                            @promovicz @FluentInFinance +1 source would be appreciated

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                            • fluentinfinance@mastodon.socialF fluentinfinance@mastodon.social

                              Married and own a home by 30 years old in the US

                              1960: 52%
                              1970: 48%
                              1980: 45%
                              1990: 43%
                              2000: 35%
                              2010: 25%
                              2025: 12%

                              I’m sure everything is fine.

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                              #33

                              @FluentInFinance Do the two properties also behave the same when observed separately? Is it home ownership or marriage that is pulling the numbers down? Or do they correlate?

                              Asking since home ownership is mainly an economic consideration, while marriage is arguably more of a culture/lifestyle thing.

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                              • fluentinfinance@mastodon.socialF fluentinfinance@mastodon.social

                                Married and own a home by 30 years old in the US

                                1960: 52%
                                1970: 48%
                                1980: 45%
                                1990: 43%
                                2000: 35%
                                2010: 25%
                                2025: 12%

                                I’m sure everything is fine.

                                keithmann@mastodon.onlineK This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #34

                                @FluentInFinance In terms of marriage and home ownership, I (b. late 1960s) followed the same trajectory as my parents (b. mid-late 1930s), but about 10 years later. They were married around age 20 and bought a home around age 25; I was married around age 30 and bought a home around age 35.

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                                • fluentinfinance@mastodon.socialF fluentinfinance@mastodon.social

                                  Married and own a home by 30 years old in the US

                                  1960: 52%
                                  1970: 48%
                                  1980: 45%
                                  1990: 43%
                                  2000: 35%
                                  2010: 25%
                                  2025: 12%

                                  I’m sure everything is fine.

                                  nettings@mastodon.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #35

                                  @FluentInFinance Can I see "own a home" without the relationship model predefined? Because I'm interested i n the economic aspect, not the marietal one...

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                                  • fluentinfinance@mastodon.socialF fluentinfinance@mastodon.social

                                    Married and own a home by 30 years old in the US

                                    1960: 52%
                                    1970: 48%
                                    1980: 45%
                                    1990: 43%
                                    2000: 35%
                                    2010: 25%
                                    2025: 12%

                                    I’m sure everything is fine.

                                    fellmoon@bsd.networkF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #36

                                    @FluentInFinance a few weeka ago I saw this on linkedin, compared to the "median starter home size" & that is imho relevant part if the equation...

                                    https://www.builderscapital.com/blog/starter-homes

                                    Not saying the US is not fucked but also expectations & market availability of homes of a certain size are part of the equation...

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                                    • raphaelmorgan@disabled.socialR raphaelmorgan@disabled.social

                                      @FluentInFinance I'd really love to see the stats divided up. Because my suspicion is it's mostly if not entirely an inability to afford houses, but pairing it with marriage means it could also be that people are just not getting married as much anymore as we discover polyamory, aromanticism, and anti-establisment sentiments

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                                      #37

                                      @raphaelmorgan @FluentInFinance I'd throw in that marriage is a net negative for women in many respects, especially marriage to Nazis, er, TradHubs. And the economic driver of requiring a husband to "support" them has evaporated. Not getting married is probably a very rational decision for most women.

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