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  • schafstelze@don.linxx.netS schafstelze@don.linxx.net

    @FluentInFinance I wouldn't combine marital status with real estate ownership; the decline of the first one isn't necessarily a bad thing.
    Another caveat, if the idea is to demonstrate the decline of income by the decline of young couples with houses, there might be other, stronger reasons than economical ones why people don't buy houses and procreate right after school/uni anymore.

    semantikast@openbiblio.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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    #16

    @Schafstelze @FluentInFinance Thank you! Was going to say the same -- certainly things are bad but both marriage and home ownership are concepts that could be questioned as the status quo to aspire to.

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    • fluentinfinance@mastodon.socialF fluentinfinance@mastodon.social

      Married and own a home by 30 years old in the US

      1960: 52%
      1970: 48%
      1980: 45%
      1990: 43%
      2000: 35%
      2010: 25%
      2025: 12%

      I’m sure everything is fine.

      makja@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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      #17

      @FluentInFinance what are the statistics for singles who own a home? I know they are lower, but I'm curious how low

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      • a_minion@mastodon.socialA a_minion@mastodon.social

        @GGMcBG @FluentInFinance It has squat to do with migrants. It's that giant vacuum that the Corporations and Reagan that sucks all the money as fast as they can. Those migrants gave more to our economy through SSA, state and local taxes without taking much but their wages. Those migrants do the jobs that citizens won't do. Corporations think we have a responsibility to them , they just forgot the responsibility they have to the worker. No one seems to be pushing them for that return on our Work.

        ggmcbg@mstdn.plusG This user is from outside of this forum
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        #18

        @A_Minion

        Neither of you understood a word I wrote.

        The rich white snots, of the type the turned Austin into one giant Chili's restaurant bar starting in the 90s, are doing it here in Tucson now, starting in 2019. And they are primarily from Texas, California and Florida. And their entitlement influence in the local economy has forced over 70% of the people who lived here before, to struggle to be able to afford to still live here.

        Was what I said.

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        • fluentinfinance@mastodon.socialF fluentinfinance@mastodon.social

          Married and own a home by 30 years old in the US

          1960: 52%
          1970: 48%
          1980: 45%
          1990: 43%
          2000: 35%
          2010: 25%
          2025: 12%

          I’m sure everything is fine.

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          tkissing@mastodon.social
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          #19

          @FluentInFinance The purpose is what the system is doing, namely concentrating power beyond the reach of democratic control.

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          • fluentinfinance@mastodon.socialF fluentinfinance@mastodon.social

            Married and own a home by 30 years old in the US

            1960: 52%
            1970: 48%
            1980: 45%
            1990: 43%
            2000: 35%
            2010: 25%
            2025: 12%

            I’m sure everything is fine.

            hexgaard@mastodon.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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            #20

            @FluentInFinance why is it important to own a home when you’re married?

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            • fluentinfinance@mastodon.socialF fluentinfinance@mastodon.social

              Married and own a home by 30 years old in the US

              1960: 52%
              1970: 48%
              1980: 45%
              1990: 43%
              2000: 35%
              2010: 25%
              2025: 12%

              I’m sure everything is fine.

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              cresssalad@mastodon.social
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              #21

              @FluentInFinance Less super rich / high net-worth people in the 50s, the pool of money is more dispreportionate in the current time, which means less net-worth people have less (and less cost effective) choice, less leverage in purchasing decisions, higher interest, higher and more variable fees, the list is endless when not in "the club" or is that a cartel? It does not always feel like free markets are working.

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              • zbrown@floss.socialZ zbrown@floss.social

                @tartley @FluentInFinance I'd assume it's ignoring mortgage as a factor, and counting everything as ‘owning’ even if a lender owns the other 99% of the place, but indeed there is ambiguity

                rasmus91@fosstodon.orgR This user is from outside of this forum
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                #22

                @zbrown @tartley @FluentInFinance there's still a vast difference between owning and renting;

                You rent, that's money that's just gone every month. You have a mortgage: that's money you're saving up every month (minus the interest).

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                • schafstelze@don.linxx.netS schafstelze@don.linxx.net

                  @FluentInFinance I wouldn't combine marital status with real estate ownership; the decline of the first one isn't necessarily a bad thing.
                  Another caveat, if the idea is to demonstrate the decline of income by the decline of young couples with houses, there might be other, stronger reasons than economical ones why people don't buy houses and procreate right after school/uni anymore.

                  arildsen@mastodon.greenA This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #23

                  @Schafstelze @FluentInFinance exactly what I thought. Any numbers on not married and own a house?
                  You would at least need to separate the two to make an economic argument about it.

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                  • fluentinfinance@mastodon.socialF fluentinfinance@mastodon.social

                    Married and own a home by 30 years old in the US

                    1960: 52%
                    1970: 48%
                    1980: 45%
                    1990: 43%
                    2000: 35%
                    2010: 25%
                    2025: 12%

                    I’m sure everything is fine.

                    dozymoe@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                    dozymoe@mastodon.social
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                    #24

                    @FluentInFinance how many have their pensions tied to the military industry

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                    • notyourfanboy@kolektiva.socialN notyourfanboy@kolektiva.social

                      @FluentInFinance
                      Now do married, and own a cat.

                      disorderlyf@todon.euD This user is from outside of this forum
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                      disorderlyf@todon.eu
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                      #25

                      @notyourfanboy @FluentInFinance I mean, even aggregated over the entire cat's lifetime, I suspect it's still orders of magnitude cheaper than a wedding and a mortgage.

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                      • fluentinfinance@mastodon.socialF fluentinfinance@mastodon.social

                        Married and own a home by 30 years old in the US

                        1960: 52%
                        1970: 48%
                        1980: 45%
                        1990: 43%
                        2000: 35%
                        2010: 25%
                        2025: 12%

                        I’m sure everything is fine.

                        disorderlyf@todon.euD This user is from outside of this forum
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                        disorderlyf@todon.eu
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                        #26

                        @FluentInFinance Curious how those numbers compare to, say, 1920-1950

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                        • fluentinfinance@mastodon.socialF fluentinfinance@mastodon.social

                          Married and own a home by 30 years old in the US

                          1960: 52%
                          1970: 48%
                          1980: 45%
                          1990: 43%
                          2000: 35%
                          2010: 25%
                          2025: 12%

                          I’m sure everything is fine.

                          corb_the_lesser@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #27

                          @FluentInFinance Map that against wealth distribution upward since 1960.

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                          • fluentinfinance@mastodon.socialF fluentinfinance@mastodon.social

                            Married and own a home by 30 years old in the US

                            1960: 52%
                            1970: 48%
                            1980: 45%
                            1990: 43%
                            2000: 35%
                            2010: 25%
                            2025: 12%

                            I’m sure everything is fine.

                            muz4now@mastodon.worldM This user is from outside of this forum
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                            muz4now@mastodon.world
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                            #28

                            @FluentInFinance Ouch. What's the source for these statistics?

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                            • fluentinfinance@mastodon.socialF fluentinfinance@mastodon.social

                              Married and own a home by 30 years old in the US

                              1960: 52%
                              1970: 48%
                              1980: 45%
                              1990: 43%
                              2000: 35%
                              2010: 25%
                              2025: 12%

                              I’m sure everything is fine.

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                              nikxxx@mastodon.social
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                              #29

                              @FluentInFinance речь именно про частный дом? Или про любое жилье? Я так понимаю невыплаченные кредиты тоже входят в эти 12%, сколько из этих 12% потеряют жилье из-за кризиса и невозможности выплатить кредит? Если про дом, то 12% это еще не так печально, в РФ думаю все куда хуже.

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                              • fluentinfinance@mastodon.socialF fluentinfinance@mastodon.social

                                Married and own a home by 30 years old in the US

                                1960: 52%
                                1970: 48%
                                1980: 45%
                                1990: 43%
                                2000: 35%
                                2010: 25%
                                2025: 12%

                                I’m sure everything is fine.

                                skribe@aus.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                skribe@aus.social
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                                #30

                                @FluentInFinance
                                Population

                                1960 3 billion
                                2026 8.3 billion

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                                • fluentinfinance@mastodon.socialF fluentinfinance@mastodon.social

                                  Married and own a home by 30 years old in the US

                                  1960: 52%
                                  1970: 48%
                                  1980: 45%
                                  1990: 43%
                                  2000: 35%
                                  2010: 25%
                                  2025: 12%

                                  I’m sure everything is fine.

                                  promovicz@chaos.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  promovicz@chaos.social
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                                  #31

                                  @FluentInFinance Can you state a source?

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                                  • promovicz@chaos.socialP promovicz@chaos.social

                                    @FluentInFinance Can you state a source?

                                    lritter@mastodon.gamedev.placeL This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #32

                                    @promovicz @FluentInFinance +1 source would be appreciated

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                                    • fluentinfinance@mastodon.socialF fluentinfinance@mastodon.social

                                      Married and own a home by 30 years old in the US

                                      1960: 52%
                                      1970: 48%
                                      1980: 45%
                                      1990: 43%
                                      2000: 35%
                                      2010: 25%
                                      2025: 12%

                                      I’m sure everything is fine.

                                      jordgubben@mastodon.gamedev.placeJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #33

                                      @FluentInFinance Do the two properties also behave the same when observed separately? Is it home ownership or marriage that is pulling the numbers down? Or do they correlate?

                                      Asking since home ownership is mainly an economic consideration, while marriage is arguably more of a culture/lifestyle thing.

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                                      • fluentinfinance@mastodon.socialF fluentinfinance@mastodon.social

                                        Married and own a home by 30 years old in the US

                                        1960: 52%
                                        1970: 48%
                                        1980: 45%
                                        1990: 43%
                                        2000: 35%
                                        2010: 25%
                                        2025: 12%

                                        I’m sure everything is fine.

                                        keithmann@mastodon.onlineK This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #34

                                        @FluentInFinance In terms of marriage and home ownership, I (b. late 1960s) followed the same trajectory as my parents (b. mid-late 1930s), but about 10 years later. They were married around age 20 and bought a home around age 25; I was married around age 30 and bought a home around age 35.

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                                        • fluentinfinance@mastodon.socialF fluentinfinance@mastodon.social

                                          Married and own a home by 30 years old in the US

                                          1960: 52%
                                          1970: 48%
                                          1980: 45%
                                          1990: 43%
                                          2000: 35%
                                          2010: 25%
                                          2025: 12%

                                          I’m sure everything is fine.

                                          nettings@mastodon.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          nettings@mastodon.social
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                                          #35

                                          @FluentInFinance Can I see "own a home" without the relationship model predefined? Because I'm interested i n the economic aspect, not the marietal one...

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